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Old 06-29-2020, 01:38 PM
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Picked up a carried-a-lot-shot-a-little 642-2 the other day and am strongly considering sending her to Cylinder & Slide for the following:

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2. Smooth, polish, radius trigger face
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They worked a H&K Compact Tactical for me a few years ago and did a fantastic job. Anyone have any experience with their revolver action jobs?
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Anyone have any experiences?
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No experience but what you want seems entirely reasonable.
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:07 PM
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After shipping both ways and all the other costs you might be into the price of the revolver again. I would just keep it stock and use that money for ammo. That being said I have had good experiences with C&S but that was with an autoloader.

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Old 07-03-2020, 08:44 PM
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Youíll like their action work.
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Old 07-04-2020, 10:36 AM
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No experience with them or the 642, but I have a 640-1 and have never seen a need for anything beyond a good cleaning and proper lubrication. A tritium front sight might be useful.
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Old 07-04-2020, 11:59 AM
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They do great work but as others have said the final cost could come close to the price of a used gun. I do agree on the smooth trigger on a carry gun but beyond that, it is an up close and personal type of firearm and if I were going to spend a lot of money reworking a snubbie, I would do it on an all steel version and even then you can get a gun with much of what you are asking for as a factory model such as a 640 Pro Series or if you need a super lightweight gun, something in the 340 series.
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3. Install an XS tritium Big Dot front sight
I never knew that anyone actually "aimed" one of these.
I always thought they were a point and shoot gun.
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Old 07-04-2020, 03:30 PM
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A big glowing dot at night might help. I prefer crimson trace lasers myself. Night sights dim over time. Like others said. the cost of C&S doing the work/parts plus shipping with probably cost more than the 642 brand new. Now you will be $700-800 in total cost. If you have the funds go for it.
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Old 07-04-2020, 03:59 PM
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I picked up a 642PC a few weeks ago that has most of what you want. It has by far the best trigger of any of my J-Frames and no lock. I wish it had a front night sight though.
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I appreciate the input.
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I don’t see how the front sight can be changed it is integral with the barrel; not pinned. That why I own Ruger snubs, the pinned front sight can be changed in about 15 minutes.
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I donít see how the front sight can be changed it is integral with the barrel; not pinned. That why I own Ruger snubs, the pinned front sight can be changed in about 15 minutes.
The integral front sight is machined into a tenon and the XS Big Dot sight is mounted onto it with epoxy.
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I donít see how the front sight can be changed it is integral with the barrel; not pinned. That why I own Ruger snubs, the pinned front sight can be changed in about 15 minutes.

It requires milling off the original sight, then milling a dovetail for a dovetail sight.
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It requires milling off the original sight, then milling a dovetail for a dovetail sight.
That's how some aftermarket sights are installed, but not the XS.

https://www.xssights.com/ITEMMEDIA/1...stallation.pdf
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Old 07-07-2020, 07:24 AM
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I have a 642 that is my #2 carry, me, like above save your cash and become proficient with the weapon. I would send in a steel 36 to C&S not a alloy weapon.
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I'm sure C&S can perform the work you want done. But my question is; why would you want to pay for that kind of work on a 642, which is a great revolver for its intended purpose. It isn't a target revolver and never will be. But as they say "whatever floats yer boat". Yours truly has paid for a few mods. over the years that really made no sense.
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I dry fire, clean, and lube until my 442’s Actions are smooth. I don’t need a light trigger on a defense gun. I paint the sights so I can see them. Works for me.
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For the most part, I agree that a 642 doesn't really need extensive work. One certainly doesn't need a light trigger to be effective.

Having said that, a smooth trigger pull can be beneficial and may be worth the cost if your gun's trigger pull is less than optimal. I've often considered having a trigger job done (with factory springs retained for reliability) on my 642-1 as there is an occasional hitch towards the end of the trigger pull. It doesn't affect reliability or accuracy (as far as I can tell), but I would prefer a smoother, more consistent pull. I have a 642ND with a trigger job, and it is a noticeable improvement. I've also considered having the front sight re-profiled to more of a modified ramp/Patridge shape as the full ramp profile is prone to glare issues in some lighting.

Personally, I don't see a problem with having work done on your carry gun, so long as reliability and safety aren't compromised. But I think you may be better off seeking a good gunsmith in your area who can perform the work, if possible. You won't incur shipping expenses, which can be a significant portion of the total cost. The price of the work itself may be less expensive. Turnaround time may be faster. I don't know what C&S's turnaround time is, but it's not unusual for well-known gunsmiths to have turnaround times measured in months, if not years. I've had trigger jobs done by local gunsmiths that turned out nicely and took, at most, a few weeks. And if there is some kind of issue, it's much easier to deal with a local gunsmith than having to ship the gun (again!) back to the gunsmith.

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Old 07-07-2020, 11:31 AM
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My handguns that Cylinder & Slide have worked on/built have absolutely been top notch. I highly recommend them!
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I replaced the OEM rebound and main springs on my 642 and it lightened the action quite a bit. Easy to do if you are even minimally handy and not all that expensive.

Other than that and a set of Ergo Delta Grips, there isn't a lot of reason to spend money on improving a close range personal defense revolver. At least I don't think so.
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Here I go, raining on parades. If you're going to have work done anywhere on this 642, remove the Uncle Mike's boot grip. No matter how reputable the shop, it is 99% guaranteed to vanish. Same with T-grips. Ask me how I know.

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Very much appreciate the input.

I'm going with the following, and they understand that this is an off-duty/back-up. Buy once, cry once.

#SR022 Chamfer cylinder mouths
#SR057 Action job, J-frame, new style
#SR006 Radius and polish trigger face
#SR104 XS standard dot dovetail tritium front sight
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For the price, you could buy an additional 642and practice the work yourself.
I dont know if you will get every dollar out of your investment but its your money
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I am a Glock Armorer. Glock and my boss let me work on their guns. The same can't be said for S&W.

I'll let the pros handle this one.
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C&S has performed work for both my late father and myself... only on semi-autos for me, not sure what he all accomplished for my father... I used to pickup brass for Bill when I was a kid and he shot IPSC with my dad... he, and all his employees are top notch...
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