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Old 08-04-2020, 06:37 AM
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Toppscore, welcome, that is as good of a handgun as there is fot as any task except for concealed carry. Six shots of 357 is nothing to sneeze at. The number of civilian firearm shootouts requiring more than a few rounds are RARE. If you are looking at unlikely home defense against numerous attackers without a lot of defense practice, you really need a shotgun. I would guess most folks here have a 12 gauqe pump shotgun. Mine is a Remington 870. They are not expensive.
Yes. I've been investigating guns. I see owning four (with/without this 357/686 8-3/8" barrel revolver):
Ruger 22, 357 magnum revolver, 45acp semi-automatic, shotgun.
Apparently good guns with cheap ammo, readily available parts and accessories. Cheers
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uh, think a bit of trolling go on...as in, pls tell me how much I can sell my gun to you for..lol
Let me know where to get an honest value?
Otherwise, just having fun from a simple inquiry request
that's generated many great suggestions and ideas.
Many comments have opened up ways for me to have
guns in my life. California appears to be a land mind of
rules and regulations. 686 8-3/8" may be too much gun for me.
Selling it now or waiting. I was offered a Sig P220 in trade?
Then a used 1911 in trade?? So, best I investigate responsibly
and answer all forum comments as respect to this S&W Forum.
I intend to stay and grow. Accomplished quite a bit in a few days.
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:27 AM
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Toppscore,

First, welcome to the forum from the Pine Barrens of Southern New Jersey!

Please, allow me to muddy the waters. First, when you purchased this revolver over thirty years ago, you wanted the "biggest, baddest revolver". Has that desire been quenched? In over forty years of gun ownership, I have sold a few long guns, but never a handgun. I will presume that like New Jersey, it can be difficult to get the requisite permission to own a handgun.

Unlike you, I currently don't have a roster of acceptable handguns that I am limited to when it comes to purchasing a "new to me" handgun. I would strongly suggest that you look at what handguns are available to you that have made it on the roster that interest you? Does any of those on the roster "speak to you" like this revolver when you bought it thirty plus years ago, when it proclaimed itself the "biggest and baddest revolver"?

Unlike others here, I tend to purchase handguns that I will (and do) shoot. I would not hesitate to shoot your revolver, you might actually find a shooting game that you like that this revolver excels at. If you can afford to purchase another handgun, I would definitely keep this one and invest in something a bit better suited to today's defensive demands that is on roster. In many respects, I would view the sale of this revolver to get something a little bit better suited to defense as a step down.
Here is a fun response . . . . during the past week of online investigation with no gun experience, I've kept notes of desirable self-defense guns to investigate for purchase:

1) FN Five-Seven FDE, 5.7x28 ammo, 10 rounds, 4.8” Barrel, CA legal
2) Sig Sauer P220, 45acp, 10+1 rounds, 4.4” barrel, CA legal
3) Heckler and Koch HK45, 45acp, 10 rounds, 4.4” barrel, CA legal???
4) Springfield Armory Range Officer 1911, 45acp, 7 rounds, 5” barrel, CA legal
5) Beretta 92fs, 9mm 9x19mm, 10 rounds, 4.9” barrel, CA legal
6) Colt Government 38 Super Automatic Rock Island 1911, 9 rounds, 5” barrel, CA legal
7) Smith & Wesson 1911, question: are there any S&W 1911 pistols that are CA legal???

I understand the CA gun laws change January 1st 2021.
Hope to buy before then. Cheers
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:30 AM
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It is definitely a step down to sell the 686 to get some modern self defense pistol. Although prices are stupid right now, you can still get a modern polymer semi auto for $500 or less. Selling the 686 to pay for the new gun and you’d no longer have such a classic weapon and you’d forget what you spent the $500 profit you made on.

I have several modern pistols. But even when my kids were very young(and they’re still pretty young) they would look at my guns in the safe and be immediately drawn to the classic revolvers over the plastic pistols. I couldn’t imagine passing down a Glock to my children. It would be like passing down a toilet plunger. “Here, son. This has cleared many a toilet and served me well. It’s yours now. Use it well”.
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I'll keep it.

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Hi. I added photos of the gun, box end and various serial numbers. Do you see the five photos? I added them the next day after original post. Not sure who can see what. Obviously no M stamp as it is still in the box.

question: you own a model 686 and a model 10 . . . .
which is the gun you'd rather buy than sell?
Also, which do you like more, the 686 or the 10?
The Model 10 is the best general purpose revolver you can get. Any .38 K frame is, but that’s a whole other topic. The Model 64 is the stainless steel version of the Model 10. The Model 15 is basically a Model 10 with adjustable sights, and the Model 67 is the stainless 15. The Model 10 and 64 came in two different barrel types, standard and heavy. If you want to see the difference, search for pictures of a Model 10-5. That’s a standard barrel. A 10-6 has a heavy barrel.

The Model 10 will safely fire mild wadcutters to +P self defense ammo. The 686 will do the same, but will also fire .357. But it’s a heavier gun, even in identical barrel lengths. The 4” 686 has a way different feel than a 4” Model 10.

If I were to keep one revolver to kind of “do it all” it would be a 4” 686. A bit heavier than a Model 10 but capable of .357 if you felt the need.
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I sold my LNIB 4" M686 back in Nov for $1000.
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I sold my LNIB 4" M686 back in Nov for $1000.
Assuming Like New In Box. Sounds great.
Any idea of a NIB 357 686 no dash 8-3/8" worth?

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Assuming Like New In Box. Sounds great.
Any idea of a NIB 357 686 no dash 8-3/8" worth?
I have no idea.
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Toppscore.

Welcome.

Being in California and having that roster. Older handguns are Californis prices are higher than prices in other states.
This is collector interest an California off roster.
Consider keeping it.
Regarding what to use now
Check for on roster handguns.
Some examples.
The more cost effective on roster would be a gen 3 Glock. If available.
S&W has some revolvers in .38 or .357 mag.

If looking at new S&W revolver buy and inspect before taking ownership. Just on case such as clocked barrel etc.
Older consignment sales may have some good choice.
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Most of us have a good idea of the market... but California is a different market. I believe that you could sell for about a thousand, but you’d have to sell it like an enthusiast would sell it. If you just take it to a gun store, it would be a miracle if they gave you half that.

Above you said “it might be too much gun for me” or something similar... I can assure that it is NOT too much gun. .357’s are fantastic in that way as they can digest .38 Special ammo which runs at literally half the pressure. And the larger and heavier the gun, the easier it is to shoot assuming you can hold it at arm’s length, which anyone except the injured/elderly can certainly do.

If you also consider that the PRESENCE of a firearm is quite often enough to end a confrontation... the presence of a huge 8-3/8 full lug 686 may well introduce defecation on the part of the aggressor.
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Toppscore. Welcome. Being in California and having that roster.
Older handguns are Californis prices are higher than prices in other states.
This is collector interest an California off roster.
Consider keeping it. Regarding what to use now
Check for on roster handguns. Some examples.
The more cost effective on roster would be a gen 3 Glock.
If available. S&W has some revolvers in .38 or .357 mag.
If looking at new S&W revolver buy and inspect before
taking ownership. Just on case such as clocked barrel etc.
Older consignment sales may have some good choice.
Thank you. I've decided to keep it to sell or auction or just
let it appreciate in value (what ever that may be) ~ just not
use it thanks to the many comments within this forum thread.

Therefore, in the interim I'll get a revolver or semi-auto
for home protection and a shotgun as well. I've been studying
the CA legal gun market and the massively many many
guns and mfg options to decide purchasing an expensive home
protection gun at this time. So, i'll get a keeper gun another
time. Thanks again for your share. Cheers
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Most of us have a good idea of the market... but California is a different market. I believe that you could sell for about a thousand, but you’d have to sell it like an enthusiast would sell it. If you just take it to a gun store, it would be a miracle if they gave you half that.

Above you said “it might be too much gun for me” or something similar... I can assure that it is NOT too much gun. .357’s are fantastic in that way as they can digest .38 Special ammo which runs at literally half the pressure. And the larger and heavier the gun, the easier it is to shoot assuming you can hold it at arm’s length, which anyone except the injured/elderly can certainly do.

If you also consider that the PRESENCE of a firearm is quite often enough to end a confrontation... the presence of a huge 8-3/8 full lug 686 may well introduce defecation on the part of the aggressor.
Hey, $evens. Thanks for the comments. Of course the big 357/686 eight incher is monster gun to be pointed at,
and may well keep it and use it. But, I've searched auction sites and online sold transactions and online comments leading to my extremely very inexperienced opinion that it is worth well over $2000+. Now, that is a guess I have to explore as NIB no-dash 8-3/8" appear to be rare and desirable. But, I've also read that the shorter guns have a bigger audience. Also, I know that many guns listed at high prices may be wishful thinkers.

Guessing it is a collector's gun or the type of gun some competition shooters might want . . . so, I'll just wait a while and get a temporary low priced .45acp gun and a low priced shot gun to protect my home.
Need to visit a FFL dealer, ASAP. Cheers
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Here is a fun response . . . . during the past week of online investigation with no gun experience, I've kept notes of desirable self-defense guns to investigate for purchase:

1) FN Five-Seven FDE, 5.7x28 ammo, 10 rounds, 4.8” Barrel, CA legal
2) Sig Sauer P220, 45acp, 10+1 rounds, 4.4” barrel, CA legal
3) Heckler and Koch HK45, 45acp, 10 rounds, 4.4” barrel, CA legal???
4) Springfield Armory Range Officer 1911, 45acp, 7 rounds, 5” barrel, CA legal
5) Beretta 92fs, 9mm 9x19mm, 10 rounds, 4.9” barrel, CA legal
6) Colt Government 38 Super Automatic Rock Island 1911, 9 rounds, 5” barrel, CA legal
7) Smith & Wesson 1911, question: are there any S&W 1911 pistols that are CA legal???

I understand the CA gun laws change January 1st 2021.
Hope to buy before then. Cheers
The FN Five Seven is not a home defense gun, is an expensive range toy.
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The FN Five Seven is not a home defense gun, is an expensive range toy.
Yes. Thank you. I've modified my search for
revolvers and semiautomatics that chamber
380acp, 9mm and/or 357magnum.

The FN is a cool looking gun, but over my ability at this time.
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I guess I want to ask, you bought it new, had it all these years, and never opened the box?

My thought exactly!
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My thought exactly!
Hi, Hiram. On August 3rd I originally replied:
"Yes, of course I opened the box to check out
what weighed so much inside.
Now it appears to be good enough to keep NIB after reading
above comments. But, I want to see if it is worth selling
or auctioning or just keep it. I noticed used shorter barreled
"no dash" 686's being sold for $1200 to $2500.
And, I noticed many, many discussions and videos
that stated the 6-inch barrels are the longest made.
So, will see if selling vs shooting is best. Cheers"

8/15/2020 Update: still keeping the listed/posted357/686 NIB,
but today purchased a Springfield XD 9mm 4" 10+1 semiautomatic
for home defense. Still seeking a S&W 357 revolver.
Then I'd considering selling this posted 357/686. Toppscore

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