New 500

Killawattz · #1 08-14-2020, 10:35 PM

Hello,

Recently picked up a new 500, I feel this will bring my squirrel hunting game to new levels, and also be a good starter gun for my 6 year old daughter. Gotta start them early.

I feel this may just be user ignorance, but I've been playing with this thing with snap caps all day since picking it up, and I noticed that the hammer will not cock with the cylinder open. The only way to get it to do so would be to pull the cylinder release to the rear, and then you can cock the hammer.

I'm fairly sure this is just the design, as it would be a bit unsafe I think to have the hammer cocked and then close the cylinder, but I wanted to make sure that there's nothing defective here.

Thank you

Pine_Worker · #2 08-14-2020, 10:40 PM

It’s designed like that. Nothing wrong.

RGNewell · #3 08-14-2020, 10:54 PM

If you pull back on the cylinder release it will.

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raljr1 · #4 08-14-2020, 11:36 PM

you'll notice the little nub that protrudes from the ejector when the cylinder is open. That nub fits into a hole in the recoil shield and pushes back the cylinder release, allowing the hammer to be cocked. Just guessing here, but most likely Smith & Wesson did not want you to be able to cock the hammer withe the cylinder open. Might make funny bad marks in the cylinder face if the hammer fell while you were closing the cylinder.

kraynky · #5 08-15-2020, 12:00 AM

Congratulations on the new 500! Show us a photo of the first squirrel you bag with it,........... if you find it that is. I think I might wait about 10 more years to start your daughter on that one. LOL!
:-)
We could make do with a picture of just the gun for now...........

fishwishin · #6 08-15-2020, 12:04 AM

Ummmm- I think we are being trolled.

Killawattz · #7 08-15-2020, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fishwishin

Ummmm- I think we are being trolled.

No troll, I'm just dumb enough to seem like I'm trolling. Here's a couple pictures of the gun.

Hiram Jr · #8 08-15-2020, 12:25 AM

I don't know why you'd want to cock it with the cylinder open. I am a novice too, but, unless I'm ignorant of some benefit in doing that.....?

fishwishin · #9 08-15-2020, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Killawattz

No troll, I'm just dumb enough to seem like I'm trolling. Here's a couple pictures of the gun.

Well, congrats on the ownership of a sweet revolver then! Most of the time we cut our teeth on K frame .38’s and the like. They are all designed the same in that you cannot cock them with the cylinders open.

505Gibbs · #10 08-15-2020, 08:12 AM

Well . . .if the squirrel isn't too far away you don't need the bullet to hit it; the muzzle concussion should do nicely AND you won't ruin much meat!!

Deceasedeye · #11 08-15-2020, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Killawattz

Hello,

Recently picked up a new 500, I feel this will bring my squirrel hunting game to new levels, and also be a good starter gun for my 6 year old daughter. Gotta start them early.

I feel this may just be user ignorance, but I've been playing with this thing with snap caps all day since picking it up, and I noticed that the hammer will not cock with the cylinder open. The only way to get it to do so would be to pull the cylinder release to the rear, and then you can cock the hammer.

I'm fairly sure this is just the design, as it would be a bit unsafe I think to have the hammer cocked and then close the cylinder, but I wanted to make sure that there's nothing defective here.

Thank you

A six year old girl that can fire a 500 and not be injured would be 1 in a million. Ever hear of child abuse?

ken158 · #12 08-15-2020, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fishwishin

Ummmm- I think we are being trolled.

No doubt... maybe a class is needed before someone can buy a .500 - squirrels and 6 year olds - Really?

Mrnurse · #13 08-15-2020, 10:18 AM

This is just a Troll poster folks 6 yo shooting a .500. (Unsafe).. small game.... come on, and the 1st question was odd. Please. PS 4 posts in 4 years???? China Bot???.

Classic29 · #14 08-15-2020, 10:24 AM

Join date.... post count..... even I’m not that bad lol

Protocall_Design · #15 08-15-2020, 10:34 AM

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Probably the girl and the squirrel were supposed to be humorous. I wouldn't post much either if everyone dogpiled on me like that...

I take it back. I would still post anyway, but some people might be put off by all the negative remarks.

H Richard · #16 08-15-2020, 10:45 AM

We must assume the poster is being facetious with the statements about squirrel hunting and a 6 year old daughter using a 500.

Killawattz · #17 08-15-2020, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by H Richard

We must assume the poster is being facetious with the statements about squirrel hunting and a 6 year old daughter using a 500.

Yes, those were jokes. I don't even have a daughter and squirrels are a rare occurrence here in AZ. Could probably take out some groundhogs though, those are kinda like the desert squirrel.

It's just something I came up with as everyone at the gun store was like "What do you need that for?" And truth be told, I don't really "need" it for anything, it's just fun.

Killawattz · #18 08-15-2020, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrnurse

This is just a Troll poster folks 6 yo shooting a .500. (Unsafe).. small game.... come on, and the 1st question was odd. Please. PS 4 posts in 4 years???? China Bot???.

Well I joined a few years ago when I bought a 8 & 3/8 inch 500, but haven't been active because I had to get rid of it as I like to keep my revolver under the pillow and the wife kept complaining about it poking her in the eye. 4 inches is just right, though.

Protocall_Design · #19 08-15-2020, 09:22 PM

Chuck Norris sleeps with a pillow under his gun, too.

dsf · #20 08-16-2020, 01:38 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, I seem to recall after-market modified S&W guns having their cylinder bolts modified allowing for the hammer to be cocked with the cylinder open, for PPC or some such shooting? I have a Davis modified gun and it doesn't have that feature, but am thinking I came across the mod doing a little research on my gun.

Protocall_Design · #21 08-16-2020, 09:41 AM

Sometimes the PPC builders took out the spring and plunger in the back of the cylinder bolt, thinking it would put less forward pressure on the cylinder and allow the cylinder to turn more easily. That means the bolt could go backwards after you open the cylinder. Then the hammer could be cocked with the cylinder open. Removing those parts doesn't do much of anything. That is a very light spring.

What has the desired effect is to make it so the bolt can go a bit further back than the center pin so the center pin spring is not pushing the cylinder forward. That spring is fairly strong. The way to do that is to file some material off the back side of the thumblatch where it rides in the frame cutout so when the cylinder is closed you can pull the thumblatch back to where it's not touching the center pin. Then the cylinder can turn more freely.

Telecaster · #22 08-16-2020, 09:45 AM

Wait, the gun store sells an item, and asks why you need it? Idiot gun store people.

RGNewell · #23 08-16-2020, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Telecaster

Wait, the gun store sells an item, and asks why you need it? Idiot gun store people.

Since when is need necessary to buy or own anything. Sounds like the liberals. "Why do you a gun that fires 30 rounds?"

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vintage40s · #24 08-18-2020, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Killawattz

... Recently picked up a new 500...

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Originally Posted by Killawattz

... Here's a couple pictures of the gun.

The pictures show a blue plastic foam lined carrying case. Did the gun come with that?
I just got a 2020 Model 642-2 Airweight .38, mail-order shipped to Cabelas. It came in a S&W cardboard box. I had to buy a 2007 S&W blue case for it on eBay for $50. Back then my gun would have come with that case.
How can one tell if a new S&W will come in cardboard box or blue plastic case?

vintage40s · #25 08-18-2020, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RGNewell

... Sounds like the liberals. "Why do you a gun that fires 30 rounds?"

I am a liberal, and can see that even 30 rounds is not enough for some purposes. But for most purposes, less is enough. I just bought a gun and joined the forum. Is it very political?

andy52 · #26 08-18-2020, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vintage40s

I am a liberal, and can see that even 30 rounds is not enough for some purposes. But for most purposes, less is enough. I just bought a gun and joined the forum. Is it very political?

Political Here? you better read the rules you get caught talking politics here and you'll get booted.