Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present All NON-PINNED Barrels, the L-Frames, and the New Era Revolvers


View Poll Results: What speedloader(s) should I get for my 617?
Speed Beez kit with one plastic loader, 2 loading blocks and a case. 8 40.00%
Three or four DS-10 loaders 12 60.00%
The Speed Beez kit and also try a DS-10 0 0%
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-29-2020, 09:16 AM
Dave Lively Dave Lively is offline
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 577
Likes: 235
Liked 549 Times in 271 Posts
Default What speedloader(s) for a 617?

Do those of you that use speedloaders for your 617 prefer the Speed Beez or DS-10?

The DS-10s are $25 a piece. The Speed Beez are $30-$40 depending on whether you want metal or plastic and the company also offers loading blocks at $19 for a 50 round block. Speed Beez also offers a starter kit with 2, 50 round loading blocks, plastic loader and a case for $80.

I am leaning towards the plastic Speed Beez with 2 loading blocks and case. I have tried the Speed Beez but have never seen a DS-10 except for pictures on the internet.

Buying the Speed Beez and trying a DS-10 too is an option if the DS-10 has some advantages.

I usually shoot at a private outdoor gun club so I am not on the clock. Rather than make the long drive to the club, blaze through a bunch of preloaded magazines and speedloaders and drive back I usually prefer to slow the pace of shooting by loading magazines one or two at a time and shoot revolvers without a speed loader. I do not shoot competitions where speedloaders are needed.

But a few weeks ago while shooting my new 10 shot 617 on a hot and humid Georgia afternoon someone in the next bay was shooting their 617 and let me try using the Speed Beez loader. It worked great and on that particular day using a speed loader instead of manually loading 22s with melting wax lube into the cylinder seemed like a great idea.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #2  
Old 08-29-2020, 10:21 AM
ericrlarson ericrlarson is offline
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Carriere, Ms
Posts: 387
Likes: 2,439
Liked 707 Times in 239 Posts
Default What speedloader(s) for a 617?

I canít speak for the Speed Beez. I have the DS-10ís and love them. They work really well and are a bit cheaper.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Last edited by ericrlarson; 08-29-2020 at 07:36 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-29-2020, 01:27 PM
DS-10-SPEED DS-10-SPEED is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Clio, Michigan
Posts: 198
Likes: 36
Liked 524 Times in 115 Posts
Default DS-10 loaders

If you're not going to shoot competition any of them will work fine. I do shoot competition and may be a little biased on my choice, I like a light weight, easy to push, compact loader, I carry several in my belt pouch. I also use a loading box or loading block when on the range for target and practice.

I started making them in 2005 and a few customers started making their own versions about 5 years later. All my loaders have staggered length push pins that I developed to reduce the loading force by 50%, some others use equal length push pins to push all the rounds flush to the cylinder but are very hard to push and extra care should be taken not to damage the crane when loading.

Some design variations over the years:
Reply With Quote
The Following 10 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 08-29-2020, 02:06 PM
Minorcan Minorcan is offline
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Georgia
Posts: 190
Likes: 393
Liked 233 Times in 110 Posts
Default

I use DS Speed-loaders for all my revolvers. Inexpensive and never had one jam or fail. I will admit I have never had the need for one in .22 cal.
__________________
I invest in Lead and Copper!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-29-2020, 02:13 PM
mikerjf mikerjf is online now
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 653
Likes: 342
Liked 873 Times in 357 Posts
Default

I have a Speed-Beez used with my 317. Seldom carried, but about the third time the center part popped out (plastic part, threaded in) and it wouldn't work.

I managed to reassemble the part that popped out and it's worked since, but I'm leery of the plastic now.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #6  
Old 08-29-2020, 06:16 PM
gr7070's Avatar
gr7070 gr7070 is offline
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 996
Likes: 50
Liked 190 Times in 125 Posts
Default

DS-10!

I have just one, with a long handle and a 6x loading block. All from DS-10.

Highly recommend.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 08-29-2020, 10:33 PM
Will2 Will2 is offline
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 178
Likes: 280
Liked 79 Times in 50 Posts
Default

I purchased two Speed-Beez a few years ago, they work okay. I needed more for steel completion and read that DS-10 were better. Purchased 5 DS-10 loaders and another loading block. The DS-10 are much better !!! Iím shooting more 22rf this year, and need another couple of loading blocks.

I donít NEED any more loaders... my current loaders are just fine... but, I expect to buy 5 of the new DS-10 loaders, they are that good !!!

Will
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #8  
Old 08-29-2020, 11:50 PM
S&WIowegan S&WIowegan is offline
US Veteran
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Iowa
Posts: 3,766
Likes: 11,220
Liked 3,207 Times in 1,569 Posts
Cool DS-10s

I shoot various competitions with my 617s from Steel Challenge to local fun matches. I've never owned Speed-Beez but have the privilege of watching a regular in our group laboriously load and reload his one Speed-Bee while we watch. I load all 6 of mine before I go to the line and avoid wasting other peoples' time.

If you are a non-competitive casual shooter I guess Speed Beez are OK.
__________________
Bob.
SWCA 1821
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 08-30-2020, 08:37 AM
Dave Lively Dave Lively is offline
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 577
Likes: 235
Liked 549 Times in 271 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by S&WIowegan View Post
I've never owned Speed-Beez but have the privilege of watching a regular in our group laboriously load and reload his one Speed-Bee while we watch.
The consensus here is DS-10. So I am going to order one of those and two or three loading blocks.

But I am curious about why the guy with the Speed Beez is taking so long to load his loader. Does he not have a loading block? The one time I tried one all I had to do was press the empty loader onto the rounds in the block and put them in the gun which only took a few seconds.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #10  
Old 08-30-2020, 09:55 AM
gr7070's Avatar
gr7070 gr7070 is offline
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 996
Likes: 50
Liked 190 Times in 125 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lively View Post
But I am curious about why the guy with the Speed Beez is taking so long to load his loader. Does he not have a loading block?
Has to be this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lively View Post
The one time I tried one all I had to do was press the empty loader onto the rounds in the block and put them in the gun which only took a few seconds.
Yep. All day long...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-30-2020, 01:09 PM
Green Frog Green Frog is online now
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Central VA
Posts: 6,105
Likes: 800
Liked 5,259 Times in 2,497 Posts
Default

Mr DS-10, do you make your speed Loaders in any other calibers? I would love to find a true peed loader in K32 configuration. Do you have a website?

Froggie
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-30-2020, 02:01 PM
DS-10-SPEED DS-10-SPEED is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Clio, Michigan
Posts: 198
Likes: 36
Liked 524 Times in 115 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Frog View Post
Mr DS-10, do you make your speed Loaders in any other calibers? I would love to find a true peed loader in K32 configuration. Do you have a website?

Froggie
Just .22 loaders, I have reduced to making just one S&W 10 shot model and the NAA mini loaders, I stopped making 6,8,9 and Ruger 10 shot loaders and loading blocks, Revolver Supply sells the loader and makes a loading block for the S&W 10 shot.

DS-10-SPEED
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-30-2020, 04:34 PM
S&WIowegan S&WIowegan is offline
US Veteran
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Iowa
Posts: 3,766
Likes: 11,220
Liked 3,207 Times in 1,569 Posts
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lively View Post
The consensus here is DS-10. So I am going to order one of those and two or three loading blocks.

But I am curious about why the guy with the Speed Beez is taking so long to load his loader. Does he not have a loading block? The one time I tried one all I had to do was press the empty loader onto the rounds in the block and put them in the gun which only took a few seconds.
I didn't say exactly how long it takes. I'm just being grumpy because the rest of us buy enough DS-10s to do quick reloads. The Speed Beez guy seems to need the interval of reloading to get his head right for the next run. Not a big deal.
__________________
Bob.
SWCA 1821
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-30-2020, 05:33 PM
Seamus O'Caiside Seamus O'Caiside is offline
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 37
Likes: 78
Liked 46 Times in 18 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Lively View Post
But I am curious about why the guy with the Speed Beez is taking so long to load his loader. Does he not have a loading block? The one time I tried one all I had to do was press the empty loader onto the rounds in the block and put them in the gun which only took a few seconds.
I'm curious about that, too. I've never tried the DS, but the Speed Beez is so fast to load, it is just as good as reaching for another pre-loaded loader.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #15  
Old 08-30-2020, 06:58 PM
DS-10-SPEED DS-10-SPEED is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Clio, Michigan
Posts: 198
Likes: 36
Liked 524 Times in 115 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus O'Caiside View Post
I'm curious about that, too. I've never tried the DS, but the Speed Beez is so fast to load, it is just as good as reaching for another pre-loaded loader.
I was confused about that too, all spring retaining loaders that were made after the DS-10's use the same concept to fill and load. Speed Beez, Allchin and CCW loaders all work in a similar way.

Last edited by DS-10-SPEED; 08-30-2020 at 07:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-02-2020, 05:50 PM
Dave Lively Dave Lively is offline
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 577
Likes: 235
Liked 549 Times in 271 Posts
Default

USPS delivered the DS-10 and a couple of loading blocks I ordered today. Its hard to tell without comparing them side by side but the DS-10 seems to have a stronger spring that has more of a click when you put rounds into the loader or pop them in the revolver. Very happy with the DS-10.

I kind of wish I had ordered more of the loading blocks and loaders but am going to wait until I use what I have first. I can always order more later.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-03-2020, 01:33 AM
AzShooter's Avatar
AzShooter AzShooter is online now
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Surprise, Az. USA
Posts: 1,072
Likes: 1,218
Liked 1,076 Times in 369 Posts
Default



DS-10s are the best. I've been shooting them for years and just got some of the new models. They have a larger handle on them and are easier to handle. They are the fastest way to recharge your Model 617.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #18  
Old 09-13-2020, 12:20 AM
Tanners Owner's Avatar
Tanners Owner Tanners Owner is offline
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 532
Likes: 82
Liked 337 Times in 201 Posts
Default

For you guys w/ DS 10s, what do you use to carry the Speedloader on your belt?
__________________
Guns + Dogs= Bliss
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-13-2020, 03:46 AM
AzShooter's Avatar
AzShooter AzShooter is online now
Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Surprise, Az. USA
Posts: 1,072
Likes: 1,218
Liked 1,076 Times in 369 Posts
Default

Check out RevolverSupply.com Loading Block Holders - The Revolver Supply Company, LLC. They make several different loader holders to put on your belt. I have an older model that lets me put 5 loaders on my belt at one time. I need to order one of the single holders so that I always have 6 loaders. 5 for Steel Challenge stages and one extra in case I need a reload.

God forbid I should ever have to reload. Only 5 hits are required at any given stage If I miss 5 times I may as well give up.

Last edited by AzShooter; 09-13-2020 at 03:50 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #20  
Old 09-13-2020, 07:14 PM
wheelgun28's Avatar
wheelgun28 wheelgun28 is online now
SWCA Member
What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617? What speedloader(s) for a 617?  
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: SW CT
Posts: 2,212
Likes: 1,792
Liked 2,417 Times in 788 Posts
Default

I have the speed bees (aluminum?) and the plastic box with two trays. I have had it quite a while and it works great. I didnt know we had choices of brands in this model.

I did modify one loading block as I hole sawed a section out. Now I can leave the loader in the case.

I will admit, I lost the first loader some place, the new one stays in the case...
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Speedloader for 627-1 B2zero S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 11 12-23-2017 02:23 PM
SOLD-HKS Competition Box "Speedloader Speedloader" 586/686/Python Ben_hutcherson Accessories/Misc - For Sale or Trade 1 03-23-2015 10:27 PM
637-2 Speedloader djh1765 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 7 10-06-2013 01:26 PM
HKS Speedloader pouch 203 medium & one speedloader private pile Accessories/Misc - For Sale or Trade 1 04-24-2013 09:48 PM
I need speedloader holster for HKS 25-5 speedloader bellyscraper S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 10 03-04-2009 05:52 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:55 PM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)