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Old 09-13-2020, 06:49 PM
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What is the big deal about the safety lock? I have read enough threads about gun folks do not want any revolver with a safety lock. Do they (you) think this distracts from the charisma of the weapon? If so how? Just wondering you fellas think.
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It'd be best if you do a search and read the many, many, many threads on this topic. Lock threads invariably get, well, locked.
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Do you have first hand knowledge of this happening? If so where and when. Thanks
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Do you have first hand knowledge of this happening? If so where and when. Thanks
Search the forum. Plenty examples of locked threads.
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It's redundant on a revolver and they're known to lock themselves while shooting, thus turning your gun into a rock.
The couple I have in the safe have the plug in place of the lock.
The safety on a revolver is the shooter holding it!
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The lock is, to me, a symbol of liberal political intrusion and a stupid attempt to make an inherently and by design dangerous instrument into one that is not. Besides, using the lock negates the primary purpose of having a ready weapon to defend yourself. I have no S&W's with locks, and never will. I do have three semiautos with locks, they've been no problem, but I wish they were not there.

I'll invoke Forrest Gump now : "and that's all I have to say about THAT".
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For many, itís purely esthetic.
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Itís like the bumper they put on the 1975 GTO...political, safe, and ugly as all get out. Killed sales and finally the GTO lineage.
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Some are completely consumed with their aversion to a mechanical contrivance. They'll never allow themselves to see beyond it.
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First, it is a storage lock. Can it fail? Certainly, it is a mechanical device designed by a human. I am aware of revolvers failing on many occasions, years as the department armorer showed me about every failure possible.

I have 3 with locks all 45 ACP, N frames. Two of the three get used frequently ad heavily. The third gets moderate usage. So far, none of the locks have failed

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I really don't care, one way or the other. I have 3, 2 with and one without. Love them all.
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I like the newer Smith revolvers. The lock doesn't bother me enough to not buy one. I recently bought a 6" M48 and it is beautiful.
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My wife has one with a lock. She couldn't care less. I hate them, they're ugly and have no place on a revolver and yes it would be a deal breaker for me.
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Just wondering where is the safety lock on this thread.....??��
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I can understand why some people do not want the locks,
but IMO they are not an issue.
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Purely looks for me. The humped up frame contours to allow the lock and the frame mounted firing pin just ruin the looks of the J and K frames.

I had a 329PD (N frame) which looked fine since it was larger. I never used the lock and never minded it being there. It was a fine gun, as I believe the new guns tend to be. As we oldsters age out, the lock will become less and less of an issue.
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To me the lock has no upside and lots of downsides! It is NOT a safety devise to be used during carry and when not being used should be either hidden or in a safe. The last thing one could ever want is the lock to inadvertently engage and jam up the gun when you need it the most - and it HAS happened more than on occasion.

Aside form which, the NO LOCK earlier guns were better built to a much much higher quality standard IMHO. To newbies who don't really understand what the ruckus was about - it's hard to get across.
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I don't own any Smith and Wesson revolvers with locks. Since there is typically an inverse relationship between availability and desirability, I sleep pretty well at night knowing that my collection will probably keep going up in value. I personally am drawn to things that aren't made anymore, so the absence of the lock matters to me.

My disposable revolver is a Taurus Model 85UL with a lock. In my experience, I typically forget whether I have engaged the lock or not. This could be a real issue in a split-second self-defense situation ('scuse me while I find the key). On the flip-side, I imagine that there are morons out there that would violate the basic rules of firearm safety based on their belief that the lock is on. So, in my mind, the lock may handicap the user of a firearm in a scenario the tool was designed for while providing a false sense of security otherwise.
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I suspect that most people that are accepting of the lock, know nothing else. I grew up with classic S&Ws. I despise the lock. I don't like that it's there. I don't like the way it ruins the look of the gun. I don't like the feel of actions of lock guns.
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Over half of the objections to the lock are strictly the look - the contours of the frame were changed on the K and J frames to accommodate it. The next largest group are the ones that see it as the company caving to political interests. I have nothing to say about that, because the forum owner is hell on wheels about it (hence the comments about the thread getting "locked") and frankly, I don't blame him. The smallest group are the ones that are concerned about a malfunction. Apparently there have been one or two during the time it's been utilized.
I'm sure there are others, but they are a very small percentage IMO.
I own one, a 2011-vintage 638, one of the two frame types (the other is the hammerless Centennial frame) that were not altered to accommodate it. I actually only bought it to help out one of my wife's friends that was going to trade it in on a Shield EZ but was getting ripped off on the trade-in value. I see no issue with it, but for my own personal "aesthetics" sake I plan on buying the plug made by the gentleman that lives here in San Tan Valley AZ. And that's about it!
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As several have stated, this topic has already been discussed to death.
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