|
|
10-11-2020, 05:37 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: NY
Posts: 194
Likes: 26
Liked 369 Times in 129 Posts
|
|
Model 65 -3
I have an old model 65-3 that was used at my Dad's PD back in the 80's and early 90's. It's a sweet shooter for sure however I am running into a strange problem. The cylinder is tough to swing out. Ive done all the simple things like really clean the cylinder, ejector rod, and behind the star really well as well as check the tightness of the ejector rod. All that seems good and it is still difficult to swing it out. Am I missing something simple I can check before I start ordering a bunch of stuff I may not need? It's really driving me nuts as I really like the gun and with sweat shirt weather upon us, I'd like to start carrying the old girl again.
|
10-11-2020, 05:41 PM
|
|
SWCA Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 978
Likes: 489
Liked 2,132 Times in 518 Posts
|
|
Try loosening the yoke screw. That is the one below the front of the cylinder.
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-11-2020, 05:47 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: NY
Posts: 194
Likes: 26
Liked 369 Times in 129 Posts
|
|
I'll give that a shot tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if I tightened it down too much. Thanks.
|
10-11-2020, 06:04 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: WA
Posts: 613
Likes: 1,980
Liked 706 Times in 293 Posts
|
|
A drop of oil might help, but you have probably tried that already.
|
10-11-2020, 06:07 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: NY
Posts: 194
Likes: 26
Liked 369 Times in 129 Posts
|
|
Yeah, its lubed well but not dripping oil. Its almost as if the ejector rod is getting hung up on the detent at the end. The one under the barrel that the ejector rod rides on.
|
10-11-2020, 06:15 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Fort Huachuca, AZ
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Liked 179 Times in 38 Posts
|
|
I'm going with the yoke screw.
|
10-11-2020, 06:16 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Piedmont of Virginia
Posts: 3,995
Likes: 4,435
Liked 5,768 Times in 2,234 Posts
|
|
To tight as noted above or....
Wrong screw in the yoke screw hole?
|
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
|
|
10-11-2020, 06:18 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North Georgia
Posts: 4,541
Likes: 2,864
Liked 9,123 Times in 3,217 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejr10mm
I'll give that a shot tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if I tightened it down too much. Thanks.
|
Does that mean you took off the
side plate.
Did you, perhaps, assume
that the yoke screw and the center
screw are the same. The center screw
is a tad longer and if mixed up will bind
the yoke, making it hard to open.
So try switching the screws.
You should be able to snug down all
three screws but you don't need
gorilla strength to do so--just snug down.
__________________
Ubi Est Mea
Last edited by UncleEd; 10-11-2020 at 06:20 PM.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-11-2020, 08:22 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: On da Bayou Teche
Posts: 18,471
Likes: 18,594
Liked 58,974 Times in 9,683 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejr10mm
Yeah, its lubed well but not dripping oil. Its almost as if the ejector rod is getting hung up on the detent at the end. The one under the barrel that the ejector rod rides on.
|
Based on above I do not think an overly tight yoke screw is your problem. Try tightening the ejector rod. They sometimes do work loose and it is difficult sometimes to open the cylinder. It has left handed threads. Hand tighten and see if that solves the problem.
__________________
Forum consigliere
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
10-11-2020, 08:33 PM
|
|
SWCA Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 978
Likes: 489
Liked 2,132 Times in 518 Posts
|
|
First of all, if the cylinder is just hard to unlatch, it's probably the ejector rod. If it is tight through the whole swing, go for the yoke screw.
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-11-2020, 08:36 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Northwest Alabama, USA
Posts: 1,604
Likes: 366
Liked 1,912 Times in 682 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleEd
Does that mean you took off the
side plate.
Did you, perhaps, assume
that the yoke screw and the center
screw are the same. The center screw
is a tad longer and if mixed up will bind
the yoke, making it hard to open.
So try switching the screws.
You should be able to snug down all
three screws but you don't need
gorilla strength to do so--just snug down.
|
I did this on a 66 with the same result. My gues as to the problem.
|
10-11-2020, 08:40 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: North central Iowa
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Liked 65 Times in 19 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAJUNLAWYER
Based on above I do not think an overly tight yoke screw is your problem. Try tightening the ejector rod. They sometimes do work loose and it is difficult sometimes to open the cylinder. It has left handed threads. Hand tighten and see if that solves the problem.
|
Yes, this sounds like an UNLATCHING hang-up...
not a SWINGING OUT/DOWN issue.
I agree, check the rod...
it may be 'loose' but still require some strength to screw it in/out by hand. As mentioned, it is BACKWARDS threaded.
|
10-11-2020, 08:42 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: NY
Posts: 194
Likes: 26
Liked 369 Times in 129 Posts
|
|
OK I played around with the screws and I did in fact have them mixed up. It is much easier now. Stupid me should have looked at the screws in my model 10 as reference. Thanks for the help.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-11-2020, 09:45 PM
|
|
SWCA Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 808
Likes: 1,508
Liked 3,039 Times in 509 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejr10mm
OK I played around with the screws and I did in fact have them mixed up. It is much easier now. Stupid me should have looked at the screws in my model 10 as reference. Thanks for the help.
|
Don't be too hard on yourself; we've all done it, and sometimes those two screws look identical, except for the little bit that's been removed from the yoke screw to make it fit properly
|
10-11-2020, 10:19 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Piedmont of Virginia
Posts: 3,995
Likes: 4,435
Liked 5,768 Times in 2,234 Posts
|
|
Happens all the time.
On a piece of corrugated cardboard draw a picture of the side plate. With a pencil point make a small hole where each screw goes. As you remove the screw pl ace it in the small hole. Then move on to the others and do likewise. It may help.
|
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
|
|
10-12-2020, 05:07 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: NY
Posts: 194
Likes: 26
Liked 369 Times in 129 Posts
|
|
^ I like that idea. With my S&W collection growing, I'll have to do that.
|
10-12-2020, 08:08 AM
|
SWCA Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,634
Likes: 638
Liked 6,872 Times in 2,546 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejr10mm
Yeah, its lubed well but not dripping oil. Its almost as if the ejector rod is getting hung up on the detent at the end. The one under the barrel that the ejector rod rides on.
|
I have a Model 10 that was doing that. I brought it to my gunsmith. There was a tiny burr on the inside of the ejector rod where it locks into the indent. 5 seconds twisting a drill bit by hand into the end of the rod and it was fixed.
As for mixing up the screws, we’ve all done that. I use one of those large vitamin dispensers, he ones with the days of the week in a straight row. Screws go in order from left to right in the Monday, Wednesday, and Friday boxes. Kept totally separate. I used the cardboard drawing but found this works better for me.
Last edited by kbm6893; 10-12-2020 at 08:13 AM.
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|