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Old 10-11-2020, 07:47 PM
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Hey everyone, got myself a brand new 686 2.5 inch and took it shooting for the first time. After getting home and cleaning it I noticed these lines on the inside under the forcing cone. Is this normal? Thanks in advanced for any help you might give,
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Milling machine marks. Looks ok (normal) to me.
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As for quality of internal finish,I've seen better!But the gun is safe to shoot.
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Old 10-11-2020, 09:13 PM
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As for quality of internal finish,I've seen better!But the gun is safe to shoot.
Thanks. That was my main concern to make sure it wasnít cracking. This is the first new Smith & Wesson revolver I have purchased. My father left me his old 66. I do enjoy the 686. The stainless steel shows a lot of swirls but I suppose that is normal if itís not a nickel finish. A couple of pictures of it along with the 66.
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Old 10-11-2020, 09:24 PM
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You made me go look at my new 686 Plus. It does not have similar milling marks.
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You made me go look at my new 686 Plus. It does not have similar milling marks.
Yeah I guess itís just that famous Smith and Wesson quality control I hear so much about. The question is do I send it back for warranty work? I doubt they would even do anything with it.
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Talking Normal poor finishing of internal surfaces

The marks you show are normal since about Y2K. I can assure you S&W is not alone in this attitude. I bought a brand new Colt Python at a local gun show back about 1990. The gun has a bright stainless exterior finish but I found the internal surfaces were unfinished and rough.

I shot the gun quite often in the early 90s until I discovered the magic of S&W tuned actions.
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Also look at these swirls. They seem excessive. It could just be my OCD but the finish doesnít look the best. Even the barrel has spots that are dull compared to the rest.
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All normal, and usually desirable.

Does anyone know of a way to restore that finish without polishing it to a gloss?
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All normal, and usually desirable.

Does anyone know of a way to restore that finish without polishing it to a gloss?
What do you mean desirable? The swirl marks?
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Just get some Mother's Mag polish, and you'll have that stainless gun looking like a nickel finish without the swirls.
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Mother's Mag polish will indeed address the swirls but be careful, it doesn't take much polishing to produce a mirror finish!

And if the milling machine marks under the forcing cone bother you just take some sandpaper and smooth them out to your liking. I wouldn't bother to send it back to Smith, it's easier and quicker to deal with it yourself - that's the advantage of stainless steel!
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Old 10-12-2020, 12:59 AM
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I bet the finish comparison between your 66 and the new 686 hurts. I love the satin sheen of my 66-1. Perfect!
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Old 10-12-2020, 01:13 AM
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Thanks for the advice guys, in all honesty if this is within the norm of newer smith and Wesson 686 I’ll just have to live with it. As long as it shoots. I just wanted to make sure everything was ok or what SW QC considers acceptable. I usually use mothers to get rid of burn marks on the cylinder but I am not to keen to polish my 686. Again thanks for the advice.
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What do you mean desirable? The swirl marks?
Upon further review, those do seem a bit more than the factory finish. Personally, I prefer the brushed stainless(as applied at the factory) compared to a polished stainless.

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My 686-4 has no such machining marks. In fact, if a revolver could be fit and finished nearly perfectly, my 686-4 is it.
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If you think thatís bad you should check out new Rugers.
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My early 80s no dash 686 as a few marks there, similar but vertical, where the OP's are horizontal. No cracking visible.
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Attached are photos showing my 686 no dash(and 629-1). They are not meant to be shiny. They are brushed Stainless, which most prefer based on my limited research. You may not be able to see the brushed marks in these photos, but they are there.
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I hope you didn't hit that with Mother's yet. With a green Scotch pad, I would have that looking near as nice as an early stainless finish in about an hour.Then maybe...a soft hit with the Mother's.
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Just get some Mother's Mag polish, and you'll have that stainless gun looking like a nickel finish without the swirls.
For more than 40 years, I've used Simichrome polish on gold, stainless steel, chrome, etc., and can recommend it without hesitation... :-) Many motorcycle shops carry it, or you can get it on Amazon... Happich Simichrome Polish | Metal Polish | As Low As $7.99
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I used Flitz on mine couple years ago
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My 668+ finish out of the box. Looked like it was cross hatch finished with a grinder. The pic doesn't show how really rough it looked. A little time and some Mothers and it looks better IMHO. Have since put a set of Pachmayr Compac Pros on it.

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no offense, but I think some of you guys have gone entirely too shiny
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To the original poster, all I would do with your revolver if it were mine is just take the inside of an old sweatshirt and rub the surface with decent finger pressure, no simichrome, mothers polish or anything, just dry. It will soften those swirl marks some and will look much nicer than an overly glossy finish. JMO.
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To the OP,,
Your question is,,
"Is this normal?"

The real issue is that S&W "normal" finish is ALL OVER THE MAP!!

So, there is no real,,, normal... answer with S&W

Now, IMHO, Ruger has a more standardized finish,,

You can expect this:



Under the "blue" you can see the blued gun is finished almost identically to the stainless,,



Heck, Smith can not even get the cylinder to look like the rest of the gun,,



BUT, I do not buy Smiths to look at them,,

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BUT, I do not buy Smiths to look at them,,
I do...And also to carry, shoot, love and cherish...A thing of beauty is a joy forever (until the divorce papers are served)......Ben
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I buried that between the pics, thinking no one would catch it!!
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My 668+ finish out of the box. Looked like it was cross hatch finished with a grinder. The pic doesn't show how really rough it looked. A little time and some Mothers and it looks better IMHO. Have since put a set of Pachmayr Compac Pros on it.
Wow, just bought that gun last week. Thankfully looks nothing like that!

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I do...And also to carry, shoot, love and cherish...A thing of beauty is a joy forever (until the divorce papers are served)......Ben
I'll agree with Ben...

There are cheaper guns/brands. If ugly is suddenly ok, I'll just go that route.

EDIT: I will also say this, modern cameras are harsh. Held mine in person and it looked much better than when I expanded a photo from my iPhone. These cameras are turning into magnifying glasses. I know I look horrible in every pic .

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...The marks you show are normal since about Y2K. I can assure you S&W is not alone in this attitude...
Both of my 1986-era 686NDs have such milling marks, nothing new about this condition.
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