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a LGS has a Model 67 in the used counter with no dash number on it and a hammer-mounted firing pin (hammer nose). In great shape (externally at least) but the price seems to low at under $350. "too good to be true"?

It has a strange (to me) attachment on the trigger shoe with polymer wings to widen the trigger. is that what they mean by a "target trigger"?

the DA trigger pull is very nice. Much better than the Model 65 I had for a few months last year.

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Buy it. If there are any problems with it contact me and I will buy it from you. A trigger shoe is a trigger shoe. A target trigger is one piece and wider appropriately .375" wide.

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The model 67 is one of my favs. Very very nice revolver.
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I'd get all light-headed and woozly if I saw a Model 67 for 350 bones.

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I would take a chance, buy it, and take the trigger shoe off. If the gun is in good condition, that would be an outstanding buy. Trigger shoes have been known to snag while reholstering.
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BUY IT. Get rid of the shoe, otherwise most things are fixable especially with stainless guns. You refinish their appearance way easier!

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Better get it quick!! It won't be there long at that price. Good luck.
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Here is my model 67 no dash. Bought it ten years ago or so. It had pits
and scratches, so I had a local smith bead blast it. I like the result. The
stocks are Spegel designed, made by Butler Creek, and marketed by Uncle
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All good advice above. Get the pistol.

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a LGS has a Model 67 in the used counter with no dash number on it and a hammer-mounted firing pin (hammer nose). In great shape (externally at least) but the price seems to low at under $350. "too good to be true"?

It has a strange (to me) attachment on the trigger shoe with polymer wings to widen the trigger. is that what they mean by a "target trigger"?

the DA trigger pull is very nice. Much better than the Model 65 I had for a few months last year.

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I think it would be worth taking a chance on. Go for it!
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thx.... but I didn't wait until morning.... pics to follow.

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What's the old saying about getting what you pay for? Sorry, folks, but I do wonder why people urge others to purchase something at a suspicious $ w/o the detailed inspection due a used revolver. Timing, headspace, endshake... the list goes on. This inspection procedure has been detailed on this forum.

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What's the old saying about getting what you pay for? Sorry, folks, but I do wonder why people urge others to purchase something at a suspicious $ w/o the detailed inspection due a used revolver. Timing, headspace, endshake... the list goes on. This inspection procedure has been detailed on this forum.



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When I told him to buy it, I said if he had problems with it I would buy it from him. I can get all of that fixed plus a professional action job for $200.
So that's $350, plus an additional $200. The gun then costs, in effect, $550. Sorry, but I'm not spending $350 on a 'pig in a poke' to spend $200 more to make it right. YMMV.

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What's the old saying about getting what you pay for? Sorry, folks, but I do wonder why people urge others to purchase something at a suspicious $ w/o the detailed inspection due a used revolver. Timing, headspace, endshake... the list goes on. This inspection procedure has been detailed on this forum.



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I agree. I'm no revolver gunsmith and while those technical terms sound familiar, I'm still learning exactly what they mean. But I'm comfortable enough with my own albeit-casual inspection based on a number of online video tutorials. (Gunblue490 and Brownell, primarily).

Another big factor is that I trust this store where I've bought several handguns over the past few years. And at this price I'm willing to take a chance.



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So that's $350, plus an additional $200. The gun then costs, in effect, $550. Sorry, but I'm not spending $350 on a 'pig in a poke' to spend $200 more to make it right. YMMV.



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Here she is. They assumed it was a police turn-in, but maybe not?:
- no explicit police markings, unless the frame stampings are indicative of a police armory?
- it's a no-dash. wasn't the Dash-1 used more by police for the improved sights?
- would a LEO add a trigger shoe?

I think I'll remove the trigger shoe first thing.

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Here she is. They assumed it was a police turn-in, but maybe not?:
- no explicit police markings, unless the frame stampings are indicative of a police armory?
- it's a no-dash. wasn't the Dash-1 used more by police for the improved sights?
- would a LEO add a trigger shoe?

I think I'll remove the trigger shoe first thing.

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Here is my model 67 no dash. Bought it ten years ago or so. It had pits

and scratches, so I had a local smith bead blast it. I like the result. The

stocks are Spegel designed, made by Butler Creek, and marketed by Uncle

Mike.



The Myres model 624 is it's favorite holster, with both a retention strap

and a dog ear. The silver dollar belt buckle is my birth year (1935).
Nice. I like the matte stainless look.

Is that orange paint on the front sight? My old eyes will need more contrast on the front sight. Wonder if the rear sight can be replaced with the blued rear sight from the Dash-1?

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So that's $350, plus an additional $200. The gun then costs, in effect, $550. Sorry, but I'm not spending $350 on a 'pig in a poke' to spend $200 more to make it right. YMMV.

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Nice. I like the matte stainless look.

Is that orange paint on the front sight? My old eyes will need more contrast on the front sight. Wonder if the rear sight can be replaced with the blued rear sight from the Dash-1?

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Nice. I like the matte stainless look.

Is that orange paint on the front sight? My old eyes will need more contrast on the front sight. Wonder if the rear sight can be replaced with the blued rear sight from the Dash-1?

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also cut the notch and inserted the red front sight. And I don't
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Nice early "no-dash"
This one is a little earlier, a 4K (first year production)


Another vote for losing the trigger shoe & leaving original stainless sight alone. Use a little sight-black when you shoot. Cleans right off with no alteration.

,,,,,still l@@king for that 66 no-dash,,,,

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I bought a Model 66 ND almost 40 years ago during a big round of police trade-ins. Typical 4” with stainless front and rear sights. Back then, these were regarded as “surplus guns” so I rebuilt it (by just selective parts matching) and used it for several years, then had a 6” barrel installed. Several years later it became the basis for “Project 616.” The price way back then was about $189, IIRC, so $350 today sounds more than reasonable. Put my name down after that of RGNewell if you decide you don’t like it! But you won’t make that decision, I bet!

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Here is a Model 67 no dash I picked up a few years ago.

5K77XXX

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Since I found it in Arizona, others believe it could be Santa Cruz,
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Since I found it in Arizona, others believe it could be Santa Cruz,

San Carlos Police Department Retired.
What is the grip and where can I find one?

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5K77XXX

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Since I found it in Arizona, others believe it could be Santa Cruz,
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Because I have a no dash that has CCSCPD engraved on the frame. It is actually my current carry gun in an El Paso saddlery Sky six rig.
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Here she is. They assumed it was a police turn-in, but maybe not?:
- no explicit police markings, unless the frame stampings are indicative of a police armory?
- it's a no-dash. wasn't the Dash-1 used more by police for the improved sights?
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I think I'll remove the trigger shoe first thing.

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Nice revolver! I bought this very well maintained, lightly used, first year no-dash Model 67 about 7 years ago and paid $350, so you did well!

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Pachmayr Presentation Grips.

I was told to hang onto these Grips, because back in the day,

these Pachmayrs were made in California and now the plant is in Mexico.
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Does anyone know what the stampings on the grip frame represent? Circle-P? Triangle-D?

or the "V" on the cylinder?

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I had my wifes and my issue model 67-1s out just the other day. Neither gets shot anymore, but we will never get rid of them. I replaced the hammers from the double action only LAPD issue back to original. Both have other modifications.
The heavy barrel and model 17 front sight on mine was a popular modification during the 4" only time on LAPD,(before my time) lots of the cutdown model 14s had a 17s sight or the sight off the 14 if it was old enough to be pinned. Saw a few with pinned ramps but they were rare.
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So your HB 67-1 is a mod, and not an agency-special order? Looks like the 4" HB 14 with Patridge sight my supervisor carried. Loved the looks of that gun. Shot like a target revolver (which it was). Forgive me, your HB the one on the bottom, correct?

My 67 no-dash is rarely shot, but it always walks out of the safe to shoot a perfect score on CCW renewal. After 19,000+ rounds, it knows what to do. Maybe next time, I'll use the trigger and not let the gun work by itself. Be safe, partner. Check 6.

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I visited a local fun shop today. They had model 67 no dash. It was in decent shape but listed for $750!!!

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I visited a local fun shop today. They had model 67 no dash. It was in decent shape but listed for $750!!!
As I've posted before, there are a lot of optimists out there. Many "cement-mixer" guns on consignment in my range/LGS with jewelry store prices. My 67 no-dash was one of the early ones, purchased in '73. Any no-dash is going to be 40 years old. Very few guns in this age range are in decent shape, unlike the one you saw. I'd also pass.

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Old 10-15-2020, 08:29 PM
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I love my 67! Great gun.

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Three or four years ago I was in a pawn shop (that had a very nice gun section) looking at snubby H&R .22. They had a 67 in there that had sat for a long time. They basically made me buy it for $200. An hour or so of cleaning and polishing and I had a nice gun. It sold on GB last year for around $500. .38s can be great bargains these days as revolvers are taking a back seat to bottom feeders and everyone wants a magnum if they do get a revolver.
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