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So I'm starting to run low on .38 and .357, but have 9mm stacked to the roof. I decided to buy a 986, and really can't find much about them?

1) I'm assuming I should not use "Lead Away" cloth on the Titanium cylinder, but what about the forcing cone area?
2) Can I use a Brass brush, Stainless brush, or just plain cleaner on the cylinder face?
3) Will this fire 9mm without the moon clips, like my .357 does?

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I think the 547 is the only revolver that will eject 9MM without moon clips.

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Titanium cleaning is best done with Elite cleaner and nylon brush. Damage the finish and it will deteriorate. As to the inevitable stains, live with it, IMHO.
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357 Magnum has a rim on the case, 9MM Parabellum does not

Smith & Wesson revolvers that fire rimless ammunition originally intended for auto loaders are designed to be fired with the ammunition in moon clips

A significant portion of those revolvers (80%+) will fire ammunition that is not in moon clips. This is not by design, it is happenstance. In this case the cartridge's case mouth rests against the cylinder throat.

And as RGNewell points out these empty cases will not properly eject without the moon clips

Please do not try and clean the face of your Titanium cylinder beyond just removing the powder residue with a non-ammonia based solvent. I use a nylon rush to dislodge any actual powder residue and finish with a soft cloth



Learn to live with the Titanium cylinder's scorching and your cylinder will have a much longer life

The forcing cone is stainless steel. Feel free to clean that as much as you want
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Keep the chambers CLEAN. I had one that had difficult extraction and I scrubbed the chambers with every shooting. I was contemplating getting a 9mm finishing reamer but decided to sell it instead. I will say it was a fun shooter and was very accurate with 124 gr JHP. And, it can be used without moon clips, but with sticky chambers it was difficult to knock empties out one at a time.
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So I'm starting to run low on .38 and .357, but have 9mm stacked to the roof. I decided to buy a 986, and really can't find much about them?



1) I'm assuming I should not use "Lead Away" cloth on the Titanium cylinder, but what about the forcing cone area?

2) Can I use a Brass brush, Stainless brush, or just plain cleaner on the cylinder face?

3) Will this fire 9mm without the moon clips, like my .357 does?



Thank you all in advance, for the answers....
You can use a plastic brush/ plastic bristles on a titanium cylinder. I use mpro7 cleaner on it. All the powder burn marks wont come off and shouldn't. Because of the protective coating the Ti has.

You can use a brass brush on the force cone area.

It is also best to use 9mms on clips. The cylinder on the 929/986 are flat and the rounds cannot headspace on the cylinder itself reliably. Not to say that some dont fire, but the sticky extraction, and a not so 100% reliability, should be reasons to consider the full use of moonclips and embrace them .
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I think the 547 is the only revolver that will eject 9MM without moon clips.

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The Charter Arms Pitbull has the same design as the 547.

I do not have a 986 but I have found a lot of other rimless cartridges will headspace on the case mouth, and moon clips are not required. You will find better reliability with moon clips.

Keep ammonia based products away from the 986 and only use nylon brushes. You will not be able to cleaner cylinder completely so don’t try. As previously mentioned, Mil Pro-7 work great with Ti cylinders.
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I have a 986 and what other have said about using a non ammonia cleaner and nylon brush is spot on, and I'd go as far to say make sure it is a soft nylon brush, because there are stiff nylon bristle brushes that are too abrasive.

Here's a cylinder pic posted by a 986 owner that didn't heed the warnings and used a brush to scrub the cylinder face clean, like a conventional steel cylinder, and removed the protective anodizing.



I use a cleaning patch with Hoppe's Elite to wipe off powder residue so it won't build up on the face and bind the cylinder, and that's it.

I figure if Jerry Miculek is content with letting Ti cylinder guns get like this, it's good enough for me. Plus, all of that carbon probably acts to further protect the cylinder, like seasoning on cast iron cookware.



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Awesome! thanks for all the advise.....
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Sorry to be reviving an old thread, but thanks to all for the helpful information. I'm picking up a new 986 5" Pro Series after the 4th of July, and I'm looking forward to this soft shooting 9mm revolver eating some of this 124gr have have in abundance.
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