Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present All NON-PINNED Barrels, the L-Frames, and the New Era Revolvers


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-09-2021, 11:13 PM
American1776's Avatar
American1776 American1776 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,676
Likes: 3,055
Liked 3,696 Times in 980 Posts
Default Crack or scratch in new 629?

Bought a new 629 Talo 3 inch a few weeks ago.

Was looking it over today and found either a scratch or a crack in a flute on the cylinder.

I know I used a desantis thumb break to see if it would fit, and the snap has rubbed against the side of the revolver.

I just donít know if this mark was a result of the snap, or is it a crack in the steel?

I uploaded too photos with different light. Itís not noticeable unless thereís bright light.

I havenít shot the gun yet. Thoughts on what to do?


Thanks.
Attached Thumbnails
Crack or scratch in new 629?-20a275fe-62cf-4c98-95aa-1dde479c737c-jpg   Crack or scratch in new 629?-ab3268b3-4e4d-4fda-b13f-074a756b0947-jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-09-2021, 11:20 PM
9mmsubgun-m11 9mmsubgun-m11 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: East Central Indiana
Posts: 967
Likes: 9,066
Liked 597 Times in 371 Posts
Default

Looks like a scratch.Maybe a little gentile polishing would be in order.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 01-09-2021, 11:28 PM
murphydog's Avatar
murphydog murphydog is offline
Moderator
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 22,084
Likes: 130
Liked 12,273 Times in 6,608 Posts
Default

Agree, likely a scratch. Whatever the material the thumb break on your holster, it would not be hard enough or create enough force to cause this. It is also on a thicker part of the exterior cylinder wall, so unless you see a matching defect on the nearby charge holes I would try to polish it out.

If it really bothers you I'd contact the factory with the photos and see if they want to inspect it.
__________________
Alan
SWCA 2023, SWHF 220
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 01-10-2021, 12:01 AM
American1776's Avatar
American1776 American1776 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,676
Likes: 3,055
Liked 3,696 Times in 980 Posts
Default

I don't see any corresponding mark in the charge hole, or on the face of the cylinder.

I wouldn't have noticed this unless I shined bright light on it.

It almost looks like it breaks up in some areas, which makes me think it's a scratch. But it does look somewhat dark for a scratch.

I'm wondering if I should send the photos to S&W. I know if I send it in, it'll take months.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #5  
Old 01-10-2021, 12:28 AM
scooter123 scooter123 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 6,634
Likes: 168
Liked 3,776 Times in 1,898 Posts
Default

As others have noted it's probably a scratch. The truly safe response is to ask yourself if you want to actually feels for have a revolver cylinder burst with your hand holding the gun. Then you'll be much less hesitant about sending this one home.

However I do understand why you don't want to send your revolver away for 8 to 12 weeks or possibley more. So here are some options for doing some Home Brew Crack Detection. What I would do is use a felt wheel on a Dremel with some diamond lapping compound to bring a small area to a full polish using VERY LIGHT pressure. Then do a bit of wet sanding with some 1500 to 2000 grit sandpaper to remove any material than may have been polished into a crevice formed by a crack. If you cannot get down to a "crack" with the wet sanding what you have is a scratch. Another alternative is to find an Automotive Machine Shop nearby who does engine poring and block blueprinting and the like and ask them for a penetrant based crack detection kit.

PS; I have found that using 1000 grit wet sandpaper in a stright line action in the existing scratch direction is an excellent way to clean up a worn finish on a stainless S&W scratch finish. So if you have an area that was polished to clean up a scratch a bit of time can have that area blended in very nicely.

However this will NOT work on the frosted finishes which is one reason why I try to avoid this type of finish. BTW the other reason why I don't like the frosted finish is that it is VERY sensitive to any rubs and wears very quickly.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-10-2021, 12:34 AM
JDBoardman JDBoardman is online now
US Veteran
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 300
Likes: 61
Liked 332 Times in 125 Posts
Default

To rule out a crack, the best method would be a liquid penetrant test. See if you have a friend or work associate who is an NDT Tech, and have him/her test it. You can also do it yourself by cleaning the surface with brake parts cleaner to remove any oil, grease or surface soils; then paint penetrant (automotive fluorescent leak check will do just fine). Allow it to soak in for 20 minutes or so, and then wipe off all excess material on the surface. Shine a black light on it, and if the indication still shows up, it is likely a crack,

By the way, the somewhat jagged and discontinuous appearance in the first photo looks to me suspiciously like a crack. And if it is, it probably originated from a stringer in the original bar that the cylinder was machined from.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 01-10-2021, 01:04 AM
Will2 Will2 is online now
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 185
Likes: 293
Liked 87 Times in 55 Posts
Default

Looks like a crack to me...

Will
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-10-2021, 06:50 AM
AlHunt AlHunt is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,518
Likes: 3,222
Liked 1,690 Times in 772 Posts
Default

I really want to think it's a scratch. But this spot about 2/3 over from the left bothers me.

A pocket microscope might be in order.
Attached Thumbnails
Crack or scratch in new 629?-crack-_li-jpg  
__________________
Freedom Is Not A "Loophole"
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-10-2021, 08:00 AM
Neversink n Klapperthal's Avatar
Neversink n Klapperthal Neversink n Klapperthal is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 453
Likes: 876
Liked 658 Times in 253 Posts
Default

Looks like a scratch. Wonder how a scratch got into a flute though...

Last edited by Neversink n Klapperthal; 01-10-2021 at 08:01 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-10-2021, 08:14 AM
cmj8591's Avatar
cmj8591 cmj8591 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 1,172
Likes: 353
Liked 1,336 Times in 562 Posts
Default

It's a scratch. You can try some Mothers on a q tip and it should go away. The only problem with buffing it out is that you will have one highly polished flute, which might look a little funny. I had a problem with a holster like you describe. You can put a coating of silicone adhesive on the back of the snap and that should fix your problem. Of course all my opinion is based off of a photo on the internet so there might be more to it than I can see. If you can't get it to buff out or you really want to be sure, you may want to show it to someone in person.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-10-2021, 08:20 AM
IrishFritz IrishFritz is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Liked 23 Times in 11 Posts
Default

Looks to me like a fracture. I personally think that caution is in order and I would absolutely return it to S&W. If it is a structural failure they really must warrantee it at no cost to you as it is their liability not yours. I once blew up a perfectly lovely USFA single action while using a defective electronic scale to measure my powder charge. Take it from me its not an experience you want to have. ( the scale manufacturer stepped up and replaced the handgun to me ) Stay safe IrishFritz
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 01-10-2021, 08:50 AM
cadmike cadmike is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 459
Likes: 44
Liked 851 Times in 301 Posts
Default

If you send S&W a pic, they will almost certainly tell you to send it in just out of caution. Heck if I’d send it in without knowing for sure first. It looks like a scratch to me, especially if you say there is no corresponding scratch or line on the cylinder face.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-10-2021, 09:01 AM
moralem moralem is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,032
Likes: 194
Liked 4,591 Times in 1,244 Posts
Default

It looks like a fracture...but if it looks like a fracture that clearly you ought to be able to get your fingernail to catch on it.....just my two cents.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-10-2021, 09:02 AM
steelslaver's Avatar
steelslaver steelslaver is offline
US Veteran
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 4,970
Liked 20,930 Times in 5,847 Posts
Default

That blown up picture is worrisome.
You can get die penetrate at most any welding supply. Norco for one

You could actually do it yourself without a kit using a similar method. Clean the cylinder with brake cleaner. Let dry, put some colored kerosene on the suspected crack (kit uses a dyed light penetrating oil). Let is set for few minutes or so then wipe it with a dry paper towel then sprinkle some corn starch on the area. (kit uses a white absorbing substance. What happens is if there is a crack some of the light oil will penetrate into the crack, the starch or powder will suck some of it back out to form a line where it is effected by the oil. I keep a couple bottles on the shelf in my shop.

You don't need the entire kid, you just need the developer and the penetrate, brake cleaner works great to clean the area. Some kerosene with red food coloring should make a great penetrate and the corn starch should work for a developer to show up where the oil went into the crack

Last edited by steelslaver; 01-10-2021 at 10:21 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #15  
Old 01-10-2021, 09:42 AM
shocker's Avatar
shocker shocker is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,269
Likes: 416
Liked 1,116 Times in 544 Posts
Default

Would a crack change directions, crossing the grain of the metal?
My gun I would send it back if for no other reason a scratch like that is a stress concentrator on something that gets highly stressed.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #16  
Old 01-10-2021, 09:44 AM
smithman smithman is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 314
Likes: 53
Liked 223 Times in 88 Posts
Default

I don’t see a crack in the cylinder face. I’m thinking inclusion in the forging.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-10-2021, 09:45 AM
American1776's Avatar
American1776 American1776 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,676
Likes: 3,055
Liked 3,696 Times in 980 Posts
Default

Thanks everyone for the feedback. Iíll be contacting S&W about this. Needless to say, Iím not happy about this. This is not my first time sending in new revolvers back to the factory.

I canít help but get a little worried about the new 686 i bought last summer. Now we have to check new S&Wís for possible cracks.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-10-2021, 10:06 AM
stansdds stansdds is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,427
Likes: 5,533
Liked 5,202 Times in 2,538 Posts
Default

It's possible that you did get a revolver with a defective cylinder. Make enough of anything and eventually you will get a defective product. I will say that it is an odd place for a crack to form and it does not appear to extend to the face of the cylinder. The jaggedness makes me want to think it is a crack, scratches tend to be more uniform.
Please let us know what S&W says about it.
__________________
VCDL, GOA, NRA
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #19  
Old 01-10-2021, 10:13 AM
steelslaver's Avatar
steelslaver steelslaver is offline
US Veteran
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 4,970
Liked 20,930 Times in 5,847 Posts
Default

The odds of a crack in a cylinder of a gun that has never been mistreated are extremely low. An inclusion in the original billet before the steel was rolled is a possibility, but I can't imagine that they would use stock that had never been subject to some sort of induction, eddy current or sonic inspection prior to machining. S&W could not take the chance simply on liability alone.

My thing is why take a chance as a cylinder failure is extremely dangerous.

Last edited by steelslaver; 01-10-2021 at 10:14 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #20  
Old 01-10-2021, 10:14 AM
Hair Trigger's Avatar
Hair Trigger Hair Trigger is online now
US Veteran
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: western NC
Posts: 623
Likes: 441
Liked 1,292 Times in 403 Posts
Default

You say you bought a "new" M629, and haven't fired it yet. The area of interest I really can't tell with the photo and my eyesight, but for a "new" gun, it sure has a distinct and well established turn line on the cylinder.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 01-10-2021, 10:22 AM
American1776's Avatar
American1776 American1776 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,676
Likes: 3,055
Liked 3,696 Times in 980 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hair Trigger View Post
You say you bought a "new" M629, and haven't fired it yet. The area of interest I really can't tell with the photo and my eyesight, but for a "new" gun, it sure has a distinct and well established turn line on the cylinder.
I bought it new from my LGS whom Iíve bought from for years.

It had the two carbon marks on the cylinder face from factory test firing.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 01-10-2021, 10:24 AM
steelslaver's Avatar
steelslaver steelslaver is offline
US Veteran
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 4,970
Liked 20,930 Times in 5,847 Posts
Default

BTW you could turn the cylinder so that flute is out of the way and then holster and re holster the gun a bunch of times and see if any other similar marks appear.

Are either test firing mark next to the flute in question?

Another point that place on the cylinder is far from its thinnest or weakest point

Last edited by steelslaver; 01-10-2021 at 10:27 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 01-10-2021, 11:54 AM
American1776's Avatar
American1776 American1776 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,676
Likes: 3,055
Liked 3,696 Times in 980 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by steelslaver View Post
BTW you could turn the cylinder so that flute is out of the way and then holster and re holster the gun a bunch of times and see if any other similar marks appear.

Are either test firing mark next to the flute in question?

Another point that place on the cylinder is far from its thinnest or weakest point
Yes, I've tried that. I can't seem to repeat that mark.

The more I look at it, and consider the esteemed opinions of the members here, the more I think it's a crack in the steel.

I sent the pictures, with a detailed note, to S&W today. I'll post updates as they occur.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 01-10-2021, 12:45 PM
AlHunt AlHunt is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,518
Likes: 3,222
Liked 1,690 Times in 772 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by American1776 View Post
Yes, I've tried that. I can't seem to repeat that mark.
Yep, if you can't make it happen again, it needs further investigation. Either your own dye penetrant test or ... send it back, however much any of us would hate the idea. I'd probably try Steelslaver's dyed kerosene idea above. It seems simple enough.
__________________
Freedom Is Not A "Loophole"
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 01-10-2021, 12:47 PM
torizus's Avatar
torizus torizus is online now
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 526
Likes: 1,194
Liked 575 Times in 255 Posts
Default

Kinda hard to believe that a premier firearm manufacturer would pass such an obvious flaw at the QC level.
Particularly after the 624 recall of the 80's.
This would give rise to the end user scratch theory which is easily fixed.

Recent trends across all industries does appear to take a "let the consumer" determine quality control combined with all the other issues today affecting production. However, a firearm, especially large caliber, should lean towards a high level of certainty which could only be assessed by the manufacturer.

I think you have nothing to lose by a moderate attempt to clean it up as suggested in several posts and re-assess if the results allow..
May be even possible to only return the cylinder or cylinder & yoke to possibly expedite the issue and/or convenience on your part.

Good luck either way, you have a fine gun.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #26  
Old 01-10-2021, 03:57 PM
CAJUNLAWYER's Avatar
CAJUNLAWYER CAJUNLAWYER is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: On da Bayou Teche
Posts: 15,540
Likes: 11,915
Liked 39,668 Times in 7,131 Posts
Default

Tis but a scratch. No it's not. Yes it is. No it's not...it's just a flesh wound....
Keep us posted
__________________
Forum consigliere
Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Like Post:
  #27  
Old 01-10-2021, 05:14 PM
Dieseltech56's Avatar
Dieseltech56 Dieseltech56 is offline
SWCA Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 1,629
Likes: 1,474
Liked 2,754 Times in 927 Posts
Default

I was first expecting this thread to be a picture of the side plate seam. Then I glanced at the pic, said thatís a scratch and backed out of the thread. Now Iím back reading the comments so I took another look at the first picture and Iím stunned. It really does look like a crack or a flaw in the metal. Does the ďcrackĒ extend into the cylinder face?
__________________
-Matt
SWCA #3306
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #28  
Old 01-10-2021, 05:23 PM
rd97 rd97 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 97
Likes: 27
Liked 57 Times in 27 Posts
Default

Don't take a chance. I have had to send three new revolvers back. Two for obvious things that should have been caught. They will make it right.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 01-11-2021, 03:22 AM
cinnwalt's Avatar
cinnwalt cinnwalt is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Oregon
Posts: 73
Likes: 557
Liked 84 Times in 39 Posts
Default

65,000 PSI rating, definitely not worth the risk of permanent injury compared to waiting 12 weeks, even though 12 weeks is horrible. Good luck with it.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 01-11-2021, 06:26 AM
Ruger 1,3 Ruger 1,3 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 105
Likes: 10
Liked 69 Times in 40 Posts
Default

Looks like a scratch to me. Try some Flitz. I have the same gun that I carry quite a bit.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #31  
Old 01-11-2021, 08:39 AM
steelslaver's Avatar
steelslaver steelslaver is offline
US Veteran
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 4,970
Liked 20,930 Times in 5,847 Posts
Default

If it is a crack it will not polish out
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #32  
Old 01-11-2021, 08:54 AM
OLDSTER's Avatar
OLDSTER OLDSTER is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 8,409
Likes: 10,587
Liked 8,517 Times in 2,432 Posts
Default

If you're worried that it might be a crack, perform your own "dye penetrant" crack test. Mix up a solution of water and blue food coloring ( medium dark). Use a Q-tip and apply a liberal amount of the solution along the line of the "crack". If it is, in fact, a crack, the blue solution will seep into the crack, and show darker than the surrounding solution. Just a little trick we would use occasionally when I was still employed.
__________________
John
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #33  
Old 01-11-2021, 11:28 AM
Johnnu2 Johnnu2 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NYS
Posts: 279
Likes: 0
Liked 375 Times in 145 Posts
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by CAJUNLAWYER View Post
Tis but a scratch. No it's not. Yes it is. No it's not...it's just a flesh wound....
Keep us posted
+1

message board says i need to lengthen this message to 10+ characters..here are about 60+....
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 01-12-2021, 08:12 PM
jrm53 jrm53 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Rogers Arkansas
Posts: 1,669
Likes: 2,474
Liked 834 Times in 359 Posts
Default

Send it back and say your attorney recomends that it would be best if S&W takes care of it for liability purposes. It looks like a crack to me. Jeff
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 01-12-2021, 11:02 PM
VikingDude VikingDude is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Europe
Posts: 98
Likes: 6
Liked 81 Times in 44 Posts
Default

Does it feel like a crack when you run your fingernail over it?
__________________
Hello darknes my old friend
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 01-13-2021, 09:37 AM
steelslaver's Avatar
steelslaver steelslaver is offline
US Veteran
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 4,970
Liked 20,930 Times in 5,847 Posts
Default

I don't think he will need to mention an attorney. No way S&W will return it with a cracked cylinder. Just the possibility of one of their new guns with a cracked cylinder must keep their liability staff awake at night already.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 01-13-2021, 10:31 PM
American1776's Avatar
American1776 American1776 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,676
Likes: 3,055
Liked 3,696 Times in 980 Posts
Default

Update: I received two emails from S&W indicating they will send me a prepaid label. Still haven’t received it.

One would think a possible cracked cylinder on a 44 magnum would merit immediate action. I suppose not.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #38  
Old 01-14-2021, 04:03 AM
hemiram hemiram is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 342
Likes: 193
Liked 396 Times in 161 Posts
Default

Looks like a scratch to me, but it's better to be safe than sorry, I saw a Python blow up about 40 years ago and it wasn't pretty. He wasn't sure the cracked cylinder was cracked, until he shot it, and then he was sure. Painfully sure.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 01-14-2021, 04:38 AM
Tytan01 Tytan01 is online now
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Hot-as-Hades, Arizona
Posts: 157
Likes: 921
Liked 389 Times in 95 Posts
Default

That looks like a crack to me.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 01-14-2021, 04:43 AM
Tytan01 Tytan01 is online now
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Hot-as-Hades, Arizona
Posts: 157
Likes: 921
Liked 389 Times in 95 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by American1776 View Post
Update: I received two emails from S&W indicating they will send me a prepaid label. Still havenít received it.

One would think a possible cracked cylinder on a 44 magnum would merit immediate action. I suppose not.
Oh....if you only knew......

I have the story of my foul experience with S&W's repair department posted elsewhere so I won't bore you here but suffice it to say....I'd could of taken the S&W repair course myself...went on a vacation to the Bahamas, trained for a marathon, run that marathon, get out of shape eating several weeks worth of KFC, then RE-TAKE the S&W repair course because I had forgotten everything I learned AND THEN repaired my gun in less time then it took S&W to do the work.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #41  
Old 01-14-2021, 07:52 AM
stansdds stansdds is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,427
Likes: 5,533
Liked 5,202 Times in 2,538 Posts
Default

Everything is moving at a snail's pace right now. The USPS is very slow. UPS and FedEx are busy shipping coronavirus vaccines. All businesses that rely upon employees coming to work are slow due to coronavirus infections. It all equals to the flow speed of molasses in a Maine winter.
__________________
VCDL, GOA, NRA
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 01-14-2021, 10:11 PM
9mmsubgun-m11 9mmsubgun-m11 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: East Central Indiana
Posts: 967
Likes: 9,066
Liked 597 Times in 371 Posts
Default

I would try a dab of polish and a little rubbing and see for myself before I would send it off in this current climate. YMMV.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #43  
Old 01-14-2021, 10:19 PM
CH4's Avatar
CH4 CH4 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Washington/Philippines
Posts: 5,256
Likes: 11,064
Liked 10,286 Times in 3,282 Posts
Default

I showed the picture to my gun enthusiast friend, a retired gynecologist. He says it’s a crack.
__________________
FBINA 213
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 01-14-2021, 10:26 PM
jringo8769's Avatar
jringo8769 jringo8769 is online now
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Jamestown NY
Posts: 782
Likes: 6,797
Liked 488 Times in 271 Posts
Default

Contact S&W
They will treat u well
If it is a scratch no biggie
If it is a crack
You are very fortunate
That could have caused u harm for sure
Stay safe out there
God Bless,John

Sent from my SM-S727VL using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 01-14-2021, 10:33 PM
Engineer1911's Avatar
Engineer1911 Engineer1911 is offline
US Veteran
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 5,628
Likes: 5,914
Liked 5,276 Times in 2,354 Posts
Default

It is a crack, I have not seen a scratch that abruptly changes direction.
__________________
S&WHF 366
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #46  
Old 01-14-2021, 10:35 PM
Hair Trigger's Avatar
Hair Trigger Hair Trigger is online now
US Veteran
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: western NC
Posts: 623
Likes: 441
Liked 1,292 Times in 403 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CH4 View Post
I showed the picture to my gun enthusiast friend, a retired gynecologist. He says itís a crack.
He should know.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #47  
Old 01-15-2021, 10:06 AM
stansdds stansdds is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,427
Likes: 5,533
Liked 5,202 Times in 2,538 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CH4 View Post
I showed the picture to my gun enthusiast friend, a retired gynecologist. He says itís a crack.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
__________________
VCDL, GOA, NRA
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #48  
Old 01-16-2021, 05:21 PM
mod34 mod34 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,398
Likes: 106
Liked 1,403 Times in 457 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hair Trigger View Post
He should know.
Don't 'ya expect that his, "perspective" is somewhat skewed? Just sayin'.
__________________
"You're messin' up my Zen"
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #49  
Old 01-18-2021, 07:37 PM
American1776's Avatar
American1776 American1776 is offline
Member
Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629? Crack or scratch in new 629?  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,676
Likes: 3,055
Liked 3,696 Times in 980 Posts
Default

S&W finally sent me a pre-paid FED ex label. FED EX just picked it up today. I will provide an update when I hear from S&W, or when the revolver is returned.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ford 427 FE: crack, scratch or scab? Ghost Magnum The Lounge 19 10-06-2020 12:44 PM
Scratch or crack? Bard4jeff S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 20 09-02-2016 07:58 PM
Used 686, concern about scratch/crack hjsmuc S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 17 05-31-2013 10:51 AM
22/32 kit gun 99% with scratch greystonedog S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 2 08-06-2010 05:48 PM
325 SC scratch or crack? 44 special Dave S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 10 05-26-2009 01:38 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:00 AM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)