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have an interest in a PPC gun in 32 s&wL. anyone have one? anyone shoot one? thanks for your reply.....dan
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I have never heard of one being built. Can't think of any advantage, the 38's are powder puff's usually.
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The model 16-4 has the under lug on the barrel that is about all you need to dampen the recoil on 32 S&W Long wadcutter loads. Since your going to shoot it a lot, you won't have to find a NIB gun.
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All the PPC matches I've ever been in state in the rules 9mm or 38 Special as the minimum caliber. A PPC gun could be built in 32 cal., there is no physical limitation on doing it.
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Over 30 years ago there was an article in one of the major gun magazines describing building a 32 PPC gun based on a Model 53. There are at least two factors that would suggest 32 S&W L should be legal for PPC matches. First, there is a long history (all the way back to the beginning of the 20th Century when Teddy Roosevelt way police commissioner for NYC and standardized on it for his officers) and second the definition of Centerfire in NRA and International Bullseye of 32 as being the minimum acceptable caliber.

I know of a few PPC guns that have been built in 32 S&W L, but they certainly aren't common.

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PPC is supposed to be a continuation of LEO training!

As mentioned above .38 Spl and 9mm are minimum!

I stand corrected: NRA PPC Rule Book:

3.2 Open Class Revolver: A revolver chambered to
fire center-fire cartridges .32 caliber or larger. If
the trigger is capable of single action it must be
capable of lifting 2.5 pounds when the gun is
cocked for single action firing.

Open Semi and Distinguished refer to 35 caliber and 38 caliber!

Note: I once shot a 60 round PPC matches in 45ACP full power and 150 round with target ammo. My knuckles were like hamburger from the barricades!

Otherwise I shot 38 Spl. 148 LHBWC, and 9mm 147 grain Ranger in Open Classes and 38Spl 158 grain LRN Ranger ammo for Distinguished.

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Lots of good used PPC 38 S&W's around for $8-$900. People getting too old to shoot.
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Here is another factor. 32 caliber barrel (.312) with a suitable twist for pistol bullets is hard to come by. I used a barrel from a 32-20 rifle to make mine after searching to no avail for new blank barrel
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PPC is supposed to be a continuation of LEO training!

As mentioned above .38 Spl and 9mm are minimum!

Note: I once shot a 60 round PPC matches in 45ACP full power and 150 round with target ammo. My knuckles were like hamburger from the barricades!

Otherwise I shot 38 Spl. 148 LHBWC, and 9mm 147 grain Ranger in Open Classes and 38Spl 158 grain LRN Ranger ammo for Distinguished.

Smiles,

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As I mentioned, we just think of the 38/9mm as the standard (minimum) police caliber. There was a long history of various 32s being used by police here and in Europe. A 32 caliber PPC gun is not outside of the rules per se, just outside of the norm. As much as I enjoyed shooting my Fred Schmidt short cylinder conversion, I would jump at the chance to run through course a time or two with a full house PPC gun in 32 S&W L.

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Bill Davis built at least 1 in 32 cal , which I believe was always legal in open class, a friend of mine won the gun at the 4 Queens match in vegas. So there is one out there, it was a cute little gun.

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As I mentioned, we just think of the 38/9mm as the standard (minimum) police caliber. There was a long history of various 32s being used by police here and in Europe. A 32 caliber PPC gun is not outside of the rules per se, just outside of the norm. As much as I enjoyed shooting my Fred Schmidt short cylinder conversion, I would jump at the chance to run through course a time or two with a full house PPC gun in 32 S&W L.

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NRA, PPC Rule Book:

3.2 Open Class Revolver: A revolver chambered to
fire center-fire cartridges .32 caliber or larger. If
the trigger is capable of single action it must be
capable of lifting 2.5 pounds when the gun is
cocked for single action firing.

My humble apology. Open Semi and Distinguished are different...
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Bill Davis built at least 1 in 32 cal , which I believe was always legal in open class, a friend of mine won the gun at the 4 Queens match in vegas. So there is one out there, it was a cute little gun.
Bob,

NRA, PPC Rule Book:

3.2 Open Class Revolver: A revolver chambered to
fire center-fire cartridges .32 caliber or larger. If
the trigger is capable of single action it must be
capable of lifting 2.5 pounds when the gun is
cocked for single action firing.

My humble apology. Open Semi and Distinguished are different...
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:10 PM
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hi folks,
i started the thread, because bullseye shooters, some shoot the 32L in a pistol, and do well at the 50 yd line, with one hand. just think what a ppc shooter could do, 2 hands and a barricade at the 50 yd line. thanks for the replys.. the journey continues.....dan
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