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Old 01-11-2021, 06:06 PM
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Here is a complete list of revolvers that Smith & Wesson as of this date have discontinued.

12057 M&P BODYGUARD Blk
163072 M&P 340 Blu/Blk
163073 M&P 340CT CT Laser Grip Blu/Blk
11749 Model 360 Scandium Blu/Blk
150469 Model 442 Airweight® Pink Grips Blu/Blk
150467 Model 637 Airweight® Pink Grips Blu/Blk
150468 Model 638 - Airweight® Pink Grips Gls Bead
163071 Model 638 Airweight® CT Laser Grips Gls Bead
12555 Model 642 Airweight® CT Blue Laser Grips
163210 Model 649 S/S Satin
162506 Model 64 - .38 Military & Police S/S Satin
162802 Model 67 Combat Masterpiece S/S Satin
160936 Model 625 JM S/S Satin
170316 PC Model 325 THUNDER RANCH™ Gls Bead
170161 PC Model 625 S/S Satin
170137 PC Model 629 V-COMP S/S Gls Bead
170181 PC Model 629 S/S Gls Bead
170334 PC Model 629 FLUTED BARREL S/S Gls Bead
163565 Model S&W500™ S/S Satin
170280 PC Model 460XVR™ S/S Satin
162411 "GOVERNOR CT Laser Grips Blk
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They'll be making plumbing valves again in no time.
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:43 PM
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What time frame are you talking about?

Smith & Wesson has discontinued many, many more than that over the decades
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This is just a list of discontinued revolvers that where in production until just recently.
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:23 PM
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Good thing I picked up a 649 last week!
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Good thing I picked up a 649 last week!
I got one last year. I bought a new 67, had a one piece barrel I traded it in. Wish I didn't now, but I did get an older pinned 67
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Old 01-11-2021, 07:39 PM
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I seriously doubt S&W will produce less revolvers than they are capable of making. For whatever reason S&W has decided it isn’t in their best interest to produce those items at this time and focus on better sellers.
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Company’s are not going to continue making a product that does not show a profit.
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What’s the oldest revolver on your list, and what date did S&W first make one?

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Nothing on that list that
ever really interested me.

So, I guess I'm one of their
marketing darlings.

Actually, I wouldn't mind if
S&W brought back the Model
581 but probably not much of
market for a fixed sighted
service gun.
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Nothing on that list that

ever really interested me.



So, I guess I'm one of their

marketing darlings.



Actually, I wouldn't mind if

S&W brought back the Model

581 but probably not much of

market for a fixed sighted

service gun.
Well if they do at least I have an original from the beginning.

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It’s a long adage of gun production (and most kinds of manufacturing) that to maximize profits and to avoid laying off workers or shutting down machinery in a volatile market then you proceed as follows:

1. When demand is high, you reduce your slate of offerings and shift resources towards bumping up production of the top sellers and discontinuing your more specialized/less popular options.

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2. When demand is low, you diversify your slate of offerings in order to appeal to a broader and more specialized contingent of potential purchasers, thereby keeping employees and machinery occupied.


We have just left a low demand era where gun companies had to expand their offerings in order to attract buyers and not lay people off. Ruger did this like crazy during the last four years. Smith also hade a very diverse portfolio of revolvers it was offering.
Now we are a year into the period of highest demand in recorded history. Who knows how long this demand will last. It makes sense for Smith to reduce its slate of offerings and instead focus on cranking out lots of the more popular revolvers.
I see these changes as a sign of lots of demand. Not a sign of trouble for Smith.


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...probably not much of
market for a fixed sighted
service gun.
A bunch of us Model 65 and 13 fans would tend to disagree.
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:21 PM
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A bunch of us Model 65 and 13 fans would tend to disagree.
Just a point of parliamentary procedure but those models were discontinued a long time ago . . .
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Old 01-12-2021, 12:06 AM
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Nothing on that list that
ever really interested me.

So, I guess I'm one of their
marketing darlings.

Actually, I wouldn't mind if
S&W brought back the Model
581 but probably not much of
market for a fixed sighted
service gun.
I sort of agree with you, but a nice 581 or 681 won’t sit in a shop long and usually bring darn good money. Definitely a following but probably not enough to make a catalog item
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Business decision. Semi-auto pistols are better sellers today than revolvers. Polymer receiver semi-auto pistols are less expensive than metal receiver semi-auto pistols. S&W is going where the market is going which is smarter than sticking with producing products that have little demand because other manufacturers are making what the market wants.
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The demand for revolvers in the US is pretty consistent from year to year and is a small percentage of the handguns sold. Most of the revolvers made by Smith go out of the country. I'm guessing that these decisions are based more on global market demand. Smith is not going to get out of the revolver market and creating new revolver models is not a big deal as they are basically all turned out on the same machinery. Most of the influx of new sales is semi auto for self defense. The increased capacity created by turning away from revolver production will go towards semi auto production to meet this new demand. Once the new demand is met or the demand for revolvers increases, you will see production ramp up again. I find it hard to believe that the model 64 is gone forever.
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Just a point of parliamentary procedure but those models were discontinued a long time ago . . .
Yup, but I can wish they'd bring them back so I can get a few more backups.

And in fact, hasn't Taurus decided that it would fill that void with its own Model 65? That must mean there is demand, yes?
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That list is only partially accurate. They may be discontinuing some of those models but most are still in production just not with the same Product code. With the exception of the 45ACP revolvers (that is sad) they offer at least one of every model that is listed just in a different configurations. There are 629s, tons of J frames in 38 spl and 357 mag, They did also discontinue the Model 64 and 67. But 38 specials service revolvers have been dead soldiers for decades. I am not sure why they even brought them back. Maybe nostalgia and those that wanted one have probably already purchased one. There is a model 64 at a LGS that has been there for months. In all the gun craze it's not moving.
I do not understand the x25 series. That one doesn't make sense. I would think hey would sell better than the 9 and 10mm revolvers. Obviously not.
I just posted / started a thread earlier... S&W has 53 different revolvers in it's 2021 catalog. That doesn't include different barrel length and sight configurations. I am skeptical they can produce that many.
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I really don't care what they discontinue if it has a hold in the side.

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Everything I want from Smith & Wesson was discontinued at least 30 years ago..
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Duly noted. . .


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And in fact, hasn't Taurus decided that it would fill that void with its own Model 65? That must mean there is demand, yes?
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A bunch of us Model 65 and 13 fans would tend to disagree.
Put me down as a Model 13 fan. Don't have a 65 or 581 yet but they're both on my wish list. Love the old school look of the fixed sights and find them just as accurate.
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I have everything I want for the most part except a light J frame 327. I plan on picking up a 460 someday say 5 or 6" with no ports.
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Just purchased a PC 625, and it looks like not a moment too soon. Hate to see the 45ACP revolvers go. It makes for a fine revolver cartridge.
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I have everything I want for the most part except a light J frame 327. I plan on picking up a 460 someday say 5 or 6" with no ports.
There's a sweet 327 on GunBroker bidding at $880 with only 2 days left. It's a beaut.

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I have everything I want for the most part except a light J frame 327. I plan on picking up a 460 someday say 5 or 6" with no ports.
327 is N frame. I'm thinking you meant 317. 3" J frames are pretty hard to resist.

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Since this category is “1980 to present”, then anything in that time frame should be listed. And in that category, the 547 should top that list. Along with the 13, of course.
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The Model 520, made for the NYSP was only made IIRC in 1980.

Also, there are both variants of the Model 22 in 45 ACP, and the Model 681 and as mentioned earlier, the 581.

There are others as well.
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