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Is a Scandium frame fixable?
So my Scandium J frame (340SC) got sent back to the mothership as the nub on the frame that prevents rearward motion of the cylinder when open has warn away enough that I can just slide the cylinder off the gun when open.
I got it back to them early November, and called them on November 24th, and was told I'd hear back in two weeks. Hadn't heard anything back, so called them yesterday and was told it was with the performance center and the CS person said, very helpfully, that she had no idea what they were doing, and no idea when I'd hear back.
So the last time I had to send a gun back to the mothership (cracked 642), I got a call pretty quickly once they got a look at it and they gave me a replacement pretty quickly. I'm aware of the current situation and expect some delays, but this has me thinking, is there any chance they're actually trying to fix this thing? I was under the impression that frame damage like that was just a dead gun, was I misinformed on that? I'd love to get the actual revolver back repaired, though at this point I'd just like my carry revolver (or replacement) back at all.
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01-14-2021, 08:33 AM
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sorry about that. Hope things go well for you
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I had that exact same issue with my 342Ti. They straightened the yoke, which corrected the problem. The only other fix I can think of would be to replace the frame.
The frame lug on these is not very tall and it doesn’t take much for a steel or titanium cylinder to shear the aluminum and jump the lug.
Exercise care when you get it back. Keep your chambers clean and support the cylinder when ejecting fired cases, so they don’t drive the cylinder back. You also need to be careful when cleaning the chambers. Tight patches or a proper fitting chamber brush can put a lot of rearward force on the cylinder. It’s a good idea to remove the cylinder when cleaning.
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The same thing happened to me. They replaced the frame and re-used all the other parts.
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Wonder why you couldn't clean off the existing lug and install an old style steel one. I am all fof having the factory fix it. Just kind of thinking out load.
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Probably because the old frames were manufactured with a hole for the lug, so removing and replacing just took a press (I'm guessing.) Putting one in a new frame would require making a new hole, in addition to milling away the remains of the old lug, and both of those would be non-trivial operations in a one off setting. MUCH easier to grab a new frame and install the old parts - the paperwork would take longer than the repair.
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I am thinking about if they would not fix it or the quit making those frames or I came across one cheap because of that problem.
They are way more of a carry gun than a collectors gun, especially one used enough for a problem. But, that is exactly how I would "fix" it. I even have a couple new lugs in my small parts box.
I have picked up both an k frame 38 and an I frame 32 that the cylinders would slide off. Both of those had messed up yokes that I replaced toget them in shape.
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I'll let you know what the eventual result is when I get it back, but hadn't even thought about replacing the lug.
It's a bit frustrating as we're now into jacket season in CO and being able to drop that thing into a light jacket pocket was just about the best. I'm now mainly carrying a 365XL, an objectively better carry gun, but laziness wins out and hopefully whatever comes back to me will get some pocket time this year.
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I switched from an early two digit titanium j frame to a Ruger LCR for pocket carry.
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Wonder why you couldn't clean off the existing lug and install an old style steel one. I am all fof having the factory fix it. Just kind of thinking out load.
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I like this solution.
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Originally Posted by s&wchad
I had that exact same issue with my 342Ti. They straightened the yoke, which corrected the problem. The only other fix I can think of would be to replace the frame.
The frame lug on these is not very tall and it doesn’t take much for a steel or titanium cylinder to shear the aluminum and jump the lug.
Exercise care when you get it back. Keep your chambers clean and support the cylinder when ejecting fired cases, so they don’t drive the cylinder back. You also need to be careful when cleaning the chambers. Tight patches or a proper fitting chamber brush can put a lot of rearward force on the cylinder. It’s a good idea to remove the cylinder when cleaning.
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I hear you but quite frankly the idea of babying a revolver to THAT extent indicates a design issue. I never liked the integral lug for that very reason (and because it looks like **** when compared to the old style pressed lug) but I can see why they did it as it eliminated several steps in the manufacturing.
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years ago I had the exact thing happen to a .38sp Ti model maybe 337? I sent it in to the factory and they told me it could not be fixed because they no longer made those frames.They had gone to the .357, window was larger etc. I replaced it with an M&P 340 at the time. Didn't even have that many rounds through it when it happened.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s&wchad
I had that exact same issue with my 342Ti. They straightened the yoke, which corrected the problem. The only other fix I can think of would be to replace the frame.
The frame lug on these is not very tall and it doesn’t take much for a steel or titanium cylinder to shear the aluminum and jump the lug.
Exercise care when you get it back. Keep your chambers clean and support the cylinder when ejecting fired cases, so they don’t drive the cylinder back. You also need to be careful when cleaning the chambers. Tight patches or a proper fitting chamber brush can put a lot of rearward force on the cylinder. It’s a good idea to remove the cylinder when cleaning.
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My technique is to hold the gun in my left hand with the cylinder sitting in my palm, reach through the window with the fingers of that hand wrapped tightly around the cylinder.
That prevents rearward force against the lug when I'm ejecting the empties briskly, or cleaning the chambers.
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Quick update, woke up to a shipping notification from S&W today. Should have it Thursday, not sure how they fixed it as it's being shipped directly to me instead of needing an FFL, so a frame swap appears to be out unless they did a replacement serial or something (if that's even still a legal thing).
Zero other communication from S&W, so I get to enjoy the suspense!
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