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Yesterday I received my correct, "3R" Tyler T-Grip and installed it this morning at the range, after switching to my set of Magna grips. The result is below (Model 686+; Target at 25 Feet). The Magnas take me back to when I was a kid and had a Model 19 2 1/2".

I'm done chasing T-Grips. It's too much work. I ordered two sizes of BK grips and they were in my hands within 5 days. I'm going to try them next week and compare them.

Thanks to all for listening and grumbling about my woes on this subject. Apparently I'm not alone and I wish you all much more success in rapidly obtaining yours.

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Looks like they work. Nice job. I have both. The BK grips seem more solid with the dual clips in my opinion.
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I like the BK better too. But I ordered 5 Tylers for N and J frames mainly to see how long it would take to receive them. About 10 months.

I think the simple solution to all the Tyler angst would be for them to simply put on their web-site “your order will take a year to be filled.”

I think that would end the teeth gnashing, weeping and wailing.
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I like the BK better too. But I ordered 5 Tylers for N and J frames mainly to see how long it would take to receive them. About 10 months.

I think the simple solution to all the Tyler angst would be for them to simply put on their web-site “your order will take a year to be filled.”

I think that would end the teeth gnashing, weeping and wailing.
I agree. If they'd make mention that theyre a 1-man, part-time show, etc. or whatever the case may be, things might at least seem a little better. Improving their business practices such as not charging your card or accepting a payment until ready to ship may also help. I like their T grips but dont plan on buying any from them until they get their act together.
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...I have to disagree...he should simply put them on GunBroker or ebay as he completes them.... No one has money tied up, no whining, no waiting... He would also make more money...
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I have three sets of BK grip One for my k frame sw 15 2 inch,sw mod 10 1969 heavy barrel NYPD. One in ivory color sw 36 I had Tyler t over the years. But you’re right the wait is to long. Bk grip sent it in days and it has 2 set of Prongs instead of one much better secure I feel and I’ve shot the heck out of my guns with no problems. Good luck
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There is no "end of story" when it comes to the subject matter. I have one of these grip adapters that I bought in the '70s or '80s from one of the large mail order places that sold gun stuff, reloading equipment, etc. They were only a few dollars as I recall. I don't know whether you could order these adapters directly from the Tyler company at that time or not, but selling his products through dealers kept the owner from the time consuming task of dealing with and shipping to individual customers.
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...I have to disagree...he should simply put them on GunBroker or ebay as he completes them.... No one has money tied up, no whining, no waiting... He would also make more money...
I agree with you 100% but the problem is the company is not set up to accept any form of electronic payment—only checks and money orders sent via regular mail. I don’t believe that would work with GunBroker or EBay.

If you aren’t set up to take credit cards and online ordering in 2021, I don’t think it is ever going to happen. Copied directly from the site:

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I don't use them. Derive no benefit from them whatsoever. When they show up on a gun I buy I just put them in the storage box.
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...I have to disagree...he should simply put them on GunBroker or ebay as he completes them.... No one has money tied up, no whining, no waiting... He would also make more money...
...and if people would stop ordering from him and letting him have their money for as long as a year without shipping, he might be inclined to do that... The way things are now, he has lots of cash in hand without incurring any costs. ...and he obviously doesn't care if people whine...

BK is the way to go...top quality and prompt shipping. I'm amazed people even consider ordering from Tyler...
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I don't use them. Derive no benefit from them whatsoever. When they show up on a gun I buy I just put them in the storage box.
I agree, I couldn't find a real use for them either but they have eye appeal to the buyers.
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There is a market for them because wooden or rubber grips just can't be made in a factory to a perfect fit for your hand. These Tyler and BK grips obviously satisfy a need that some of us have; to have a sold, perfect grip that requires no re-positioning of your hand on a grip.

Take a look at my picture above and tell me the last time you saw a good-looking set of wood grips that filed out that profile. You haven't. I'm not taking anything away from Culina's extra-fine work and others, but these just work well in action. Try holding either a J-frame or K/L frame Magna grip and tell me you are comfortable. I can't see it. Besides the grip being faulty, balance is off.

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Tyler T's may be a headache to order but with their brushed and polished metal they have the upper hand in the looks dept. I bought as many of them as I could get my hands on years ago when there was rumor the company was going to shut down due to a tornado hitting their facility. It seems like they've never really recovered completely. I have never tried BK's but after looking on their site I might order a black one. Not too keen on the ivory look. Hope the plastic feel doesn't have that cheap feel in the hand.
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There is a market for them because wooden or rubber grips just can't be made in a factory to a perfect fit for your hand. These Tyler and BK grips obviously satisfy a need that some of us have; to have a sold, perfect grip that requires no re-positioning of your hand on a grip.

Take a look at my picture above and tell me the last time you saw a good-looking set of wood grips that filed out that profile. You haven't. I'm not taking anything away from Culina's extra-fine work and others, but these just work well in action. Try holding either a J-frame or K/L frame Magna grip and tell me you are comfortable. I can't see it. Besides the grip being faulty, balance is off.

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Granted, there will always be exceptions. As in your post and mine, none of us can make blanket statements that apply 100% of the time.
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I agree with you 100% but the problem is the company is not set up to accept any form of electronic payment—only checks and money orders sent via regular mail. I don’t believe that would work with GunBroker or EBay.

If you aren’t set up to take credit cards and online ordering in 2021, I don’t think it is ever going to happen. Copied directly from the site:

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...the CC problem would dissolve because he would be filling the order the day of payment.

Way back when Melvin Tyler's niece and her husband had the company I was one of their distributors. The first order I made was several thousand dollars and was done on a CC. The next order had to be done cash up front... I later found out the CC companies had cut them off because of all the late shipment/charging before shipping complaints...

If the new owner only sold what he had made up he could again take CC...

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I don’t understand why someone doesn’t buy them (him?) out and turn it into a real business.

Sounds like a part time garage operation to me.
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I love retro S&Ws. I have a few Tyler-T grips to on some of 'em.
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Sounds like a part time garage operation to me.
Agree nickel dime operation, doubt anyone would invest some cash to make it profitable since the present owners seem to be knuckleheads. If I was them I'd sell the company/rights to someone that knows what they are doing in the year 2021.
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Sounds like a part time garage operation to me.
Perhaps BK could buy the outfit and officially cease Tyler operation. Quietly manufacture just enough to keep the market hot, sell them on GB. How much would folks pay for Tylers if a) they were no longer commercially available and b) could be snagged already made at the end of an auction & immediately sent?

I bet you folks would easily be paying $100.00 a pop for them.
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^^^what he said. I must have bought 10 or 15 of them from the pro shop at my range. They came in a little white box wrapped in a piece of paper towel! $3.00. Sizes for all frame sizes and shapes of DA revolvers were available. No muss, no fuss. Remember if you have installed them on a gun and the gun is to be in for work, to remove them beforehand. T-grips have legs and will walk away. Same for UM boot grips.

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I agree, I couldn't find a real use for them either but they have eye appeal to the buyers.
I'm just the opposite. I think they are hideous, unsightly additions to good revolvers. I always loathed seeing them. I used to occasionally get them on revolver trades and throw them away.

Then I tried one on my old favorite Model 10. It aided purchase on the factory stocks and I much preferred the shooting results over aftermarket stocks or especially equally hideous rubber grips.

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Never did anything for me, looks or feel. I got one recently that looked new/unused in the box with one of my N-frames and I did what I always do with them, call a friend up, tell him I have another one I don't want/need, and get enough for it to buy me lunch. Last time it was $10. He offered it, and I took it. It was worth the drive to the halfway point for both of us. Anything that fits an S&W K, L, or N and I don't want it, he will take it. If I didn't want to keep them for future resale, I have a half dozen sets of magna grips sitting around doing nothing.

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Never did anything for me, looks or feel. I got one recently that looked new/unused in the box with one of my N-frames and I did what I always do with them, call a friend up, tell him I have another one I don't want/need, and get enough for it to buy me lunch. Last time it was $10. He offered it, and I took it. It was worth the drive to the halfway point for both of us. Anything that fits an S&W K, L, or N and I don't want it, he will take it. If I didn't want to keep them for future resale, I have a half dozen sets of magna grips sitting around doing nothing.
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I'd like to add a few comments on the Tylers. First, the need for them. Standard service and magna grips may be too slender to grasp for many hands. The T-grips give more surface to grab on to. Also, most factory boxes for guns shipped with service or magna grips will not accept the same gun fitted with target grips, as they add depth to the grip area. A case in point is a mint-condition model 67 that I own; I'd like to apply some prime factory target stocks to it, but it will not then fit in the factory box. With the t-grips it will.

Then there is the authenticity angle. To have a classic period gun fitted with another later type goes against the grain for many traditionalists, such as I am. I like to have everything looking and feeling original.

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This 67 will fit, of course, in its factory box:


With my preferred target stocks, it will NOT fit in the box. So it's currently fitted with polished aluminum T-grips.
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I thought about ordering a black T-grip and rolling the dice but decided to give the BK Grip adapter a try instead. I lightly sanded it with 3000 grit to remove a few rough spots and finished it with some mother's aluminium polish...looks painted now but even better since the color won't scratch. Should look great with the new set of American Holly panel grips that I just got.

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I sent a check for 2 sets of tyler's and received them 2 weeks ago, 4 1/2 weeks from the date they cashed the check. Not sure why I got them so quick but I'm not complaining
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The guy cashed my check a month ago. Hope springs eternal -- I'll start watching the mail again.
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I sent a check for 2 sets of tyler's and received them 2 weeks ago, 4 1/2 weeks from the date they cashed the check. Not sure why I got them so quick but I'm not complaining
Possibly because the person who ordered them got tired of waiting and asked for a refund; you were at the right place at the right time. A birthday gift from a buddy, my brushed bronze adapter took 13 months after they cashed his check.
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I got my BK grip adapters 3-4 days after ordering them. I chose the BK due to the time I'd have to wait for the others.

I was talking to a good friend to get some Magna grips for my other friends 29-2 and he said he's toss in a Tyler T for me so I could see the difference between the two.

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I sent a check for 2 sets of tyler's and received them 2 weeks ago, 4 1/2 weeks from the date they cashed the check. Not sure why I got them so quick but I'm not complaining

Ts are made in batches...you got lucky in that whatever you ordered, he had more than it had orders for...

If on the other hand your order comes in just after the run and all are sold out you will be waiting months to get it...

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...I have to disagree...he should simply put them on GunBroker or ebay as he completes them.... No one has money tied up, no whining, no waiting... He would also make more money...
After my first 2 direct orders from Tyler-T... the above is just how I decided to start ordering them... From either eBay or Guns/America. Never a problem anymore. "Plastic" doesn't belong on a Revolver. Burger-King can keep the BK's!
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I thought about ordering a black T-grip and rolling the dice but decided to give the BK Grip adapter a try instead. I lightly sanded it with 3000 grit to remove a few rough spots and finished it with some mother's aluminium polish...looks painted now but even better since the color won't scratch. Should look great with the new set of American Holly panel grips that I just got.

I received a BK adapter less than a week after ordering it. It fits my old 5" M10 pretty well, and results in the grip on the gun that I was used to when using the old Tyler T-grips. I'm happy with it. Now, if that guy in OK ever fills my order, I guess I'll just consider it a bonus.
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