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Old 07-20-2021, 05:13 PM
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The Model 19 Carry Comp is now available with a 2.5" barrel.

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Old 07-20-2021, 07:54 PM
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That is a Very interesting development





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I might want one of the 2 1/2"s just for the variation
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Old 07-20-2021, 10:58 PM
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This would be a good time for a snarky comment...

I am a long time S&W fan, but I am having a hard time trying to find anything of value in the current guns they make. I am pretty sure this is a gun that they've made some sort of version of before.
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Old 07-21-2021, 02:11 AM
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Wish they would do away with that porting/front sight arrangement. Simply can't see the benefit of the port on a carry piece.

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Old 07-21-2021, 03:02 AM
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Interesting development indeed, especially since the 3" version is really a 2.75 rifled barrel with the smooth bore in the comp section. They managed to decrease the barrel length even further and still keep the full length ejector rod.

To each their own regarding the previous comp comments. I am a fan of the feature. It works very well at reducing muzzle flip with magnum rounds. S&W does have a model in their current line up without the comp... the regular 66 in 2.75 BBL.
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Old 07-23-2021, 04:41 AM
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I might buy one. I haven't bought any of the "current" model 19s or 66s yet. I just might have to give that one a shot.

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Old 07-23-2021, 06:30 AM
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I might buy one. I haven't bought any of the "current" model 19s or 66s yet. I just might have to give that one a shot.

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I have the 3". It's a very nice shooter that I can put lots of rounds through and not worry about wearing my collectible pre locks.

This new 2.5" bbl sure looks nice on boot grips... looks more balanced than the 3" on shorter stocks.
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Old 07-23-2021, 07:16 AM
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I also have the 3". It is a fine shooter, though I would honestly prefer it not be ported, but that's the only way to get a 3" K frame these days.

It's interesting that they managed to keep a full length ejector rod with the 2 1/2" version.
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It's as if a true non-ported 3" K frame is against the rules or something. I guess it would hurt the value of the older 3" 66s, not that S&W would be directly affected, but hey I'm glad they're lookin' out for the collectors. The value of older Pythons seems to have taken a hit when the new ones came out.
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:29 PM
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Don’t they make a normal 66 ?
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I'd like to get one with the 3" barrel but can't find one anywhere.
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Old 07-24-2021, 07:19 AM
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Donít they make a normal 66 ?
With a 2.75Ē barrel, yes.
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Old 07-24-2021, 08:39 AM
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Donít they make a normal 66 ?
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With a 2.75Ē barrel, yes.

The Model 66 Combat Magnum (AKA Model 66-8), 2.75 inch or 4.25 inch barrel, neither are ported. Finding one is the trick.
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Looks great and I actually prefer the porting and sight combo. I would just like to see this with a 7 round cylinder
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Old 07-24-2021, 09:50 AM
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Looks great and I actually prefer the porting and sight combo. I would just like to see this with a 7 round cylinder
Itís a K-frame.
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Old 07-24-2021, 11:01 AM
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Looks great and I actually prefer the porting and sight combo. I would just like to see this with a 7 round cylinder
It's called a 586 L-Comp...
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Old 07-24-2021, 01:05 PM
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Looks great and I actually prefer the porting and sight combo. I would just like to see this with a 7 round cylinder
As uncleted327 mentions, that is the L-Comp


This revolver started life as a Distributor Exclusive offering back in 2000

The contracted run was for 200 pieces, but many more have been made

The revolver shipped with two sets of grips. The Ace Secret Service boot grips and these Hogue Bantam grips

This configuration has been so popular that it has been in production for 20 years.
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I don't understand why they shortened the front sight distance from the rear sight ??

I will pass on this new model.
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I have the 2 3/4” 66-8. I really like it. I’m tempted by the 19. Comp Carry, but think I have the better shooter.
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Old 07-24-2021, 02:42 PM
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I don't understand why they shortened the front sight distance from the rear sight ??

I will pass on this new model.
The comp port is in front of the sight. You can't really put the comp behind the sight...
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Old 07-25-2021, 01:11 AM
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It's a very nice shooter that I can put lots of rounds through and not worry about wearing my collectible pre locks.
That's why I want one.


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2xÖand add to that no flat spot at 6 o clock on the forcing cone, full length ejector rod, and a ported muzzle. Iím in.
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The comp port is in front of the sight. You can't really put the comp behind the sight...
Why the top ?

Shotgun barrels are ported on the sides at 11 & 1 O'Clock.
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If you look at compensators on competition handguns, you will find the prevailing design to be like the K-Comp: a large open port on the top.

I don't have the engineering background to explain why the large open port is more effective on handguns, but if it wasn't I'm guessing it wouldn't be the type most used on competition handguns. As far as I'm aware, all of S&Ws "Comp" revolvers have used this design.

There were a few PC revolvers with Mag-na-port style ports at 11 and 1, but I don't recall those being marketed as "X-Comp".
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If you look at compensators on competition handguns, you will find the prevailing design to be like the K-Comp: a large open port on the top.
I can't think of a single competition pistol with just one large carry comp / L-comp style top port. May I ask what competition guns you have in mind? Thanks!

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As far as I'm aware, all of S&Ws "Comp" revolvers have used this design.
What about the 627 and 629 V-Comp?

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Why the top ?

Shotgun barrels are ported on the sides at 11 & 1 O'Clock.
They should do carry comp and L-comp versions with the porting used on the 629 Stealth Hunter. Maximum sight radius and less prone to collect stuff in the port(s).
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I can't think of a single competition pistol with just one large carry comp / L-comp style top port. May I ask what competition guns you have in mind? Thanks!
Maybe I should have said "port(s)".

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See above.

The point was that you rarely see 11/1 mag-na-port style ports on competition guns. The prevailing design is for vertical ports, though some do have smaller side ports in addition.
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This one I will buy. Love snubbies and that is one cool looking little snubbie
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It looks to me the 586 Carry Comp 3 inch has an extractor rod lock in the shroud. The 19 carry comp does not. Does it have a ball detent lock?

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It looks to me the 586 Carry Comp 3 inch has an extractor rod lock in the shroud. The 19 carry comp does not. Does it have a ball detent lock?
The 19-9 and 66-8 were redesigned, the forward cylinder lock is a ball detent in the crane instead of locking the end of the ejector rod.
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Wish they would do away with that porting/front sight arrangement. Simply can't see the benefit of the port on a carry piece.

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The 19-9 and 66-8 were redesigned, the forward cylinder lock is a ball detent in the crane instead of locking the end of the ejector rod.
OK thanks. I have not yet seen one, or even a pic with the
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OK thanks. I have not yet seen one, or even a pic with the
cylinder opened.

Guns & Ammo article, scroll down and there is a close up of the new lock.
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