586-6 value in trade? For sa 1911?

dkonrai · #1 08-09-2022, 01:31 PM

I have a 586-8 that I'm thinking of trading for a Springfield 1911a. I'm sad that the bluing on the newer models are not that lustrous finish as the older models.
I know this is a sw forum, but being in Cali we don't have many choices.
Yes I have other smiths, 629-4, 686-3, and a pre mod 10.
I also have, rock island 1911a, Colt gm nm, Springfield ro target 9.
Yes I have issues

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murphydog · #2 08-09-2022, 01:43 PM

Not sure about availability of SA 1911s in CA, but if that is a basic/standard model .45 I think your 586 is worth quite a bit more. Of course that is only part of the equation in a trade.

toad67 · #3 08-09-2022, 01:43 PM

I'd think that value wise they should be about equal, so if you want the 1911, go for it.

Drm50 · #4 08-09-2022, 01:51 PM

Naw, that deal is a loser. I’ve bought same SA 1911 outfit right here on S&W forum last year at $550. You can say price is up but that works both ways. The spread on value on these two guns stays the same. The 586 I should think would be 25% to 35% more as described.

swagmeister · #5 08-09-2022, 05:21 PM

Not a good deal; keep the 586.

dkonrai · #6 08-09-2022, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by murphydog

Not sure about availability of SA 1911s in CA, but if that is a basic/standard model .45 I think your 586 is worth quite a bit more. Of course that is only part of the equation in a trade.

All handguns are hard to get lol.

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Originally Posted by toad67

I'd think that value wise they should be about equal, so if you want the 1911, go for it.

My thought, but wasent sure. List price of a 586 is close to a SA.

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Originally Posted by Drm50

Naw, that deal is a loser. I’ve bought same SA 1911 outfit right here on S&W forum last year at $550. You can say price is up but that works both ways. The spread on value on these two guns stays the same. The 586 I should think would be 25% to 35% more as described.

Except, I live in cali. The model must be on the state roster. Then i would have to pay about 100 to 150 fees, reg and internet purchase. So that 550 pistol is now 650 to 700 sadly.

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Originally Posted by swagmeister

Not a good deal; keep the 586.

Maybe ill just sell off the 586. And find a better 1911 lol.

JohnRippert · #7 08-09-2022, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dkonrai

Maybe ill just sell off the 586. And find a better 1911 lol.

This is the way to go, IMO. As you say, tough to get handguns in Cali. You should get above market for that 586 in your state. Then take that money and find a better 1911.

reddog81 · #8 08-09-2022, 07:44 PM

A new SA 1911 can be had for $800 and a new 586 runs about $850. You can get a 686 plus for under $800.

The difference in used values are going to be dependent on condition and how motivated the individuals are more than anything else.

mscampbell2734 · #9 08-09-2022, 07:48 PM

Being in CA is a huge game changer. I'd place the 586 at about $1K and the 1911, since it's a Mil Spec, the most basic model by SA, at about $750 max.

dkonrai · #10 08-09-2022, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by reddog81

A new SA 1911 can be had for $800 and a new 586 runs about $850. You can get a 686 plus for under $800.

The difference in used values are going to be dependent on condition and how motivated the individuals are more than anything else.

Hmm. Very close in cost.

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dkonrai · #11 08-09-2022, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mscampbell2734

Being in CA is a huge game changer. I'd place the 586 at about $1K and the 1911, since it's a Mil Spec, the most basic model by SA, at about $750 max.

The only 1911s sub 1000 are usually rock island or citadel. Any other brand gets over retail.
We have to pay sales tax and dros fees of about 70.

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Dave.357 · #12 08-12-2022, 09:51 AM

You can do better.
That is not a good deal.