Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Revolvers > S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present

Notices

S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present All NON-PINNED Barrels, the L-Frames, and the New Era Revolvers


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-29-2022, 09:21 PM
Jeep 1 Jeep 1 is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 154
Likes: 259
Liked 410 Times in 81 Posts
Default Don’t understand why so many people dislike Powerports

Without a doubt the most enjoyable of almost all Smith and Wesson 44 magnum‘s to shoot is the 629 PowerPort
At least 30% less muzzle rise and felt recoil
I shot two of mine this evening nearly 150 time with full house 240 gr jacketed hollow points
50% of double action and multiple rounds single handed both strong and weak handed
They are so sweet and extremely accurate I don’t understand all the hate…….
Tom
Attached Images
File Type: jpg B1799291-BE47-414C-9B06-0FADF8E65D3F.jpg (91.5 KB, 178 views)
File Type: jpg FF053298-E2AE-490F-A42F-E79FBB7A203B.jpg (72.4 KB, 172 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-29-2022, 11:12 PM
Goblin Goblin is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: North Texas
Posts: 1,596
Likes: 2,455
Liked 1,148 Times in 608 Posts
Default

I also love the ported guns. Your photo seems to be missing a 3” PC 586. I’ll check back later for an updated image.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 09-29-2022, 11:55 PM
Jeep 1 Jeep 1 is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 154
Likes: 259
Liked 410 Times in 81 Posts
Default

Couple more pictures
A couple of N frames, L frames and a straggly K frame
Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 09-30-2022, 12:22 AM
bdGreen bdGreen is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,527
Likes: 1,840
Liked 13,676 Times in 1,730 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeep 1 View Post
Without a doubt the most enjoyable of almost all Smith and Wesson 44 magnum‘s to shoot is the 629 PowerPort

They are so sweet and extremely accurate I don’t understand all the hate…….
Tom

First, they are hideous looking.

Really? Drill another innocuous hole in a perfectly good piece of steel. To what resolve?

If your current choice of handgun needs to be 'tamed' down that much then maybe you should choose a smaller caliber. A .22 l.r. maybe. Just saying...

HaHaHa...

enjoy,
bdGreen
Reply With Quote
The Following 10 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 09-30-2022, 10:10 AM
75Vette's Avatar
75Vette 75Vette is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: South of Atl
Posts: 4,068
Likes: 38,698
Liked 14,508 Times in 3,114 Posts
Default

Nothing against the Powerport here. I've put several thousand rounds through my 629-4. This gun is crazy accurate and very balanced, tagging along with me to the range twice a week. It's also made a good companion at many IHMSA matches. Great thread.



__________________
Don't You Ever Wash That Thing
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-30-2022, 10:22 AM
THE PILGRIM's Avatar
THE PILGRIM THE PILGRIM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ALBUQUERQUE, NM
Posts: 13,891
Likes: 8,094
Liked 25,418 Times in 8,547 Posts
Default

If you stand next to one in an indoor range,
That will challenge your tolerances!
__________________
NRA LIFE MEMBER
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-30-2022, 10:50 AM
Mike, SC Hunter Mike, SC Hunter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: In The Woods Of S.C.
Posts: 8,917
Likes: 14,058
Liked 13,758 Times in 4,988 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bdGreen View Post
First, they are hideous looking.

Really? Drill another innocuous hole in a perfectly good piece of steel. To what resolve?

If your current choice of handgun needs to be 'tamed' down that much then maybe you should choose a smaller caliber. A .22 l.r. maybe. Just saying...

HaHaHa...

enjoy,
bdGreen
BD. I think you spoke most all of us. Porting makes LITTLE TO NO difference. Fellers that like "em" should hold that gun down by their waist and shoot it.......May put their eyes out......AND gimmicks sells guns.
__________________
S&W Accumulator
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 09-30-2022, 11:20 AM
Bald1's Avatar
Bald1 Bald1 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: NY
Posts: 2,959
Likes: 2,207
Liked 5,443 Times in 1,962 Posts
Default

Back in 1991 I bought a 6” 629 that was previously Magna Ported. Still carry it today during deer season. I think the Magna Ports are more attractive than the powerport. It does reduce muzzle flip a little bit. But it’s loud, increases muzzle flash and is one more thing to clean. But man that gun is accurate. I love it.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #9  
Old 09-30-2022, 11:53 AM
ruger 22 ruger 22 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NY
Posts: 810
Likes: 1,635
Liked 1,099 Times in 489 Posts
Default

Porting does reduce muzzle rise and recoil. The laws of Physics will substantiate that. If you are recoil sensitive you will note a difference. If you are not recoil sensitive then there will be no significant difference to you. To each his/her own. The comment about added muzzle blast is however valid and for a while when trapshooters ported their shotguns you could really tell the difference when on the line.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #10  
Old 09-30-2022, 12:03 PM
Pisgah Pisgah is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 3,450
Likes: 37
Liked 5,433 Times in 1,762 Posts
Default

Hate? I have no "hate" for ported guns, I just prefer non-ported. Sort of like I don't hate brunettes or redheads, just prefer blondes ...
__________________
Pisgah
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-30-2022, 12:07 PM
Buzzzer Buzzzer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 310
Likes: 414
Liked 497 Times in 199 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pisgah View Post
Hate? I have no "hate" for ported guns, I just prefer non-ported. Sort of like I don't hate brunettes or redheads, just prefer blondes ...
Same here, I don't tell others how to spend their money...
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #12  
Old 09-30-2022, 12:34 PM
DeplorabusUnum's Avatar
DeplorabusUnum DeplorabusUnum is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Beautiful Pacific NW
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 2,060
Liked 1,819 Times in 706 Posts
Default

If I posted about how much I love my wife, how beautiful she is, and how I love the way she feels in my hands, you wouldn't tell me she was ugly would you?

...Or would you?
__________________
What could possibly go wrong?
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #13  
Old 09-30-2022, 01:28 PM
BLACKHAWKNJ BLACKHAWKNJ is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,782
Likes: 1,239
Liked 5,839 Times in 2,365 Posts
Default

I'm surprised nobody ever marketed any sort of bolt on muzzle brake. Recall seeing one for the Dan Wesson years ago, Gun Parts Corp. lists a barrel with compensator for the M1911.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-30-2022, 07:07 PM
Jeep 1 Jeep 1 is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 154
Likes: 259
Liked 410 Times in 81 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike, SC Hunter View Post
BD. I think you spoke most all of us. Porting makes LITTLE TO NO difference. Fellers that like "em" should hold that gun down by their waist and shoot it.......May put their eyes out......AND gimmicks sells guns.
Really why would that be if it does not vent gas upwards…..
And why in the hell would I shoot a 44 magnum from the hip.
I know when I compare my Powerports to standard 629‘s there is a difference and as far as noise goes there’s really not that much difference overall.
From 1989 through 1995 I shot the Smith and Wesson masters international handguns championships in Barry Illinois at PASA park during that time I was practicing and shooting between 25,000 and 50,000 rounds a year. I am not a keyboard shooter
During that time Compensators and red dots and scopes were all developed for handgun competition and I’ll guarantee you a comp on a 1911 race gun it makes a difference.
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-30-2022, 08:07 PM
ShadyDrifter ShadyDrifter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 238
Likes: 55
Liked 270 Times in 92 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeplorabusUnum View Post
If I posted about how much I love my wife, how beautiful she is, and how I love the way she feels in my hands, you wouldn't tell me she was ugly would you?

...Or would you?
Post pics
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #16  
Old 09-30-2022, 10:06 PM
bdGreen bdGreen is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,527
Likes: 1,840
Liked 13,676 Times in 1,730 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKHAWKNJ View Post
I'm surprised nobody ever marketed any sort of bolt on muzzle brake. Recall seeing one for the Dan Wesson years ago, Gun Parts Corp. lists a barrel with compensator for the M1911.
This was offered by S&W many years ago for the K38.

Apparently wasn't a mover and a shaker.

More of a novelty by today's standards.

bdGreen





Last edited by bdGreen; 09-30-2022 at 10:07 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #17  
Old 09-30-2022, 11:48 PM
Nightowl's Avatar
Nightowl Nightowl is online now
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Warrensburg, MO USA
Posts: 5,415
Likes: 2,868
Liked 3,333 Times in 1,704 Posts
Default

I don't really care for the looks of the PowerPort the way the front sight looks on the barrel. Others may not care, and thats all good that both of us are putting lead downrange. I have two 629-5s, both 7 1/2 inch slab side barrels. One is stainless Magna ported, and the other Birdsong finish, non ported. They both shoot great and I really can't tell the difference in recoil, which is hefty and about all I can handle anymore.
__________________
Richard Gillespie
FBINA 102
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-01-2022, 04:51 AM
BLUEDOT37's Avatar
BLUEDOT37 BLUEDOT37 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: N.E. OKLA.
Posts: 6,484
Likes: 5,882
Liked 9,332 Times in 3,497 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeep 1 View Post
Don’t understand why so many people dislike Powerports
.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightowl View Post
I don't really care for the looks of the PowerPort the way the front sight looks on the barrel.
.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzzer View Post
...I don't tell others how to spend their money...
.

Enough said.

.
__________________
Waiting for the break of day
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-01-2022, 08:18 AM
BB57's Avatar
BB57 BB57 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC
Posts: 4,750
Likes: 3,555
Liked 12,658 Times in 3,372 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeep 1 View Post
Really why would that be if it does not vent gas upwards…..
And why in the hell would I shoot a 44 magnum from the hip.
…/
“From the hip” was a poor choice of words IMHO.

But if you ever need to fire a ported handgun from a close in retention position you’ll have a better understanding of why porting is a poor choice for a self defense handgun. It’s also sub optimum in low light conditions.

Range toy? I don’t have any problem, with it, as long as you go to the opposite side of the range, especially in an indoor or at a covered outdoor range where there are surfaces to reflect and focus the sound.

In other words, many of us would hate them a lot less if their owners were a lot more considerate in how, when and where they use them.

Last edited by BB57; 10-01-2022 at 08:20 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-01-2022, 08:22 AM
BB57's Avatar
BB57 BB57 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC
Posts: 4,750
Likes: 3,555
Liked 12,658 Times in 3,372 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeplorabusUnum View Post
If I posted about how much I love my wife, how beautiful she is, and how I love the way she feels in my hands, you wouldn't tell me she was ugly would you?

...Or would you?
<thinks to self…”would it be a good thing to tell him how many people on this forum agree with how good his wife feels…or would that be a bad thing…. >
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 10-01-2022, 09:40 AM
RKmesa's Avatar
RKmesa RKmesa is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 7,419
Likes: 27,908
Liked 45,740 Times in 4,817 Posts
Default

No dislike from me...



__________________
Richard
Engraved S&W fan
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Like Post:
  #22  
Old 10-01-2022, 12:16 PM
yeti's Avatar
yeti yeti is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,358
Likes: 2,862
Liked 2,777 Times in 1,165 Posts
Default

I really enjoy shooting my 629 PP, so I guess I am "pro-port."
Really do not like ported barrels in a waterfowl blind, but most other places I'm fine with it. Even 16yrd trap. I enjoy compensated rifles and pistols and I know they help with quick follow up shots.

The PowerPort does reduce torque and recoil for full house loads from my 6.5" PP 629. Yes, it seems louder, but you kind of expect that with heavy 44M loads. The PP benefits aren't really noticeable with the mellower loads I mostly shoot though.

Last edited by yeti; 10-01-2022 at 12:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #23  
Old 10-01-2022, 12:30 PM
Nevada Ed's Avatar
Nevada Ed Nevada Ed is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Reno Nv
Posts: 13,405
Likes: 3,189
Liked 12,771 Times in 5,690 Posts
Default

It all started with shotguns and went to rifles and revolvers, later on.

I just don't like more "Holes" in my barrels to collect powder etc. , that
makes for a longer cleaning session and more work for me.

If you are at an outdoor range that has a metal roof and you are sitting between
two rifles that are ported.....................
you will understand, why a lot of people, dislike ported, any thing.

I will not let a person with a ported shotgun hunt near my dogs !!

If you like ported, great.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-01-2022, 01:24 PM
AveragEd AveragEd is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Enola, Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,369
Likes: 592
Liked 2,596 Times in 1,132 Posts
Default

I've owned two, a 629 Classic and a 686-4. I've never shot the 686 as it somehow escaped being factory test-fired, according to the S&W-trained gunsmith to whom it was shipped. But I honestly felt no reduction in felt recoil compared to my non-PP 629s and if there was less muzzle rise, I missed it. It did however allow combustion debris to be blown back into my face by the slight headwind in which I was shooting the one time I shot it before selling it.

There is a reason why that feature is no longer offered...

Ed
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 686-4PPa.jpg (159.3 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg 686-4PPb.jpg (164.4 KB, 12 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #25  
Old 10-01-2022, 01:33 PM
shawn mccarver shawn mccarver is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,914
Likes: 3,517
Liked 6,741 Times in 2,625 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeep 1 View Post
Without a doubt the most enjoyable of almost all Smith and Wesson 44 magnum‘s to shoot is the 629 PowerPort
At least 30% less muzzle rise and felt recoil
I shot two of mine this evening nearly 150 time with full house 240 gr jacketed hollow points
50% of double action and multiple rounds single handed both strong and weak handed
They are so sweet and extremely accurate I don’t understand all the hate…….
Tom
For me, I dislike the looks, I distrust the idea of possibly having gas and debris projected upward into my face and eyes, and those admittedly personal and subjective concerns, together with possibly increased noise, are why I will not buy one. And yes, I have shot one, admittedly one with a short barrel. Oh, I forgot to mention the Clint Smith article in American Handgunner on the subject of ports. It is worth a read.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10-01-2022, 02:09 PM
CA Escapee CA Escapee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 731
Likes: 64
Liked 818 Times in 358 Posts
Default

I was accused of shooting magnums at steel plates with this years ago. The R.O. was calling for a ceasefire while roaring up on his ATV. I said, "What? It's only a .45 Colt, with mild reloads."

625-7.jpg

Last edited by CA Escapee; 10-01-2022 at 02:13 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #27  
Old 10-01-2022, 02:27 PM
mtgianni mtgianni is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: SW MT
Posts: 6,734
Likes: 10,507
Liked 6,027 Times in 2,967 Posts
Default

I don't recall the last time I shot a jacketed bullet in a revolver. I do shoot some plated in semi-auto's. I think a port has the possibility to put a cast bullet out of balance as it passes.
__________________
Front sight and squeeze
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 10-01-2022, 07:40 PM
DeplorabusUnum's Avatar
DeplorabusUnum DeplorabusUnum is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Beautiful Pacific NW
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 2,060
Liked 1,819 Times in 706 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyDrifter View Post
Post pics
Sounds like maybe you would then???
__________________
What could possibly go wrong?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 10-01-2022, 10:26 PM
Chukar60's Avatar
Chukar60 Chukar60 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Idaho
Posts: 2,306
Likes: 1,302
Liked 4,379 Times in 1,375 Posts
Default

I don’t hate ported guns. I just do not have a use for one.
I have only had one handgun that was ported. Dan Wesson 44 mag.
The noise level from that thing was vicious.
Maybe they have improved them since then? But it cured me of wanting another ever again.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 10-01-2022, 11:28 PM
Rpg Rpg is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Denver area
Posts: 6,243
Likes: 20,272
Liked 13,107 Times in 4,172 Posts
Default

I dislike ported guns.

For me, the very modest reduction of muzzle flip and perceived recoil don’t come close to outweighing the very troublesome increase in blast and noise that comes with ported guns.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 10-02-2022, 04:01 AM
smithman smithman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 455
Likes: 167
Liked 433 Times in 166 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RKmesa View Post
No dislike from me...



I don’t like ports or engraving. But, I think that revolver looks magnificent!
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 10-02-2022, 10:41 AM
357 shooter 357 shooter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Indiana
Posts: 451
Likes: 77
Liked 492 Times in 217 Posts
Default

I don't hate the ported guns just not for me.

In 30+ years of shooting full size all steel revolvers I never once thought to myself, "I wish this thing was ported." I don't shoot handgun speed competitions or fire hundreds of rounds of max load magnums in one range session.

Even shooting short barrels magnums like my my 686 2.5" the blast and concussion are more annoying than recoil to me. And 99.9% of my shooting takes place on a covered range and it seems like a ported gun would be worse yet.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Today I found the ultimate Glock for people who dislike Polymer guns... mainegrw Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 26 02-02-2020 03:33 PM
Jokes That Only the Smartest People Can Understand. Bekeart The Lounge 23 11-18-2015 01:42 AM
I just don't understand some people Usmc5811 The Lounge 31 11-02-2015 06:23 PM
Dog people will understand... Fishslayer The Lounge 37 08-12-2014 10:56 PM
Why Dont Some People Understand? HotRoderX The Lounge 42 09-19-2011 07:38 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:11 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)