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Old 05-14-2009, 05:58 AM
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From what I just read on this subject somewhere on this forum, it seems very few of you ever remove the cylinder from the revolver in order to clean the chambers.

How you do manage to get them clean without loosening the front sideplate screw, taking the crane out & slipping the cylinder off, is beyond me.

At least NOW I understand why all the front sideplate screws on the guns in your photo's are always so pristine ! You just never touch them, right ?
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:08 AM
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I remove mine occasionally, but I use a properly fitting screwdriver bit. Still looks perfect.
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Welcome to the forum.

I almost always remove the cylinder and yoke when I clean a S&W revolver. The yoke barrel and stud get pretty gunked up and I want those bearing surfaces clean and lightly lubed. Proper fitting screwdrivers and a little care prevent damaging the screw.

Ps. I wash behind my ears, too!
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+1 on proper screwdriver and removal for cleaning cause I'm a compulsive cleaner.
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:56 AM
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Mine come off for cleaning most every time.
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:59 AM
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+1 on removal for cleaning. I bought a set of bits with handle from S&W's web store it is called the Gun Pal. It comes in a belt case with all the bits you should need for any S&W.

OOPS! I do not see it now but they do have a set for 12.95
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:48 AM
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That yoke screw comes off some of my guns 30-40 times a year. I don't care how good your screwdriver is, the head gets crummy after a while. Happily, S&W has piles of them and will sell you all you like. I keep a few spares around and, when a screw no longer appeals to me, I replace it. No big deal.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:52 AM
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I like a clean gun, most of the time the night after I shoot I clean my guns. About every four or five times I take it apart and clean everything. The cylinder comes out every time I clean, carbon will wear the gun and giving it a cleaning everytime prolongs the guns life. Those that don't clean hand down junk - worn out guns, mine will look like new. So it is up to you what you do, I enjoy cleaning almost as much as shooting.
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From what I just read on this subject somewhere on this forum, it seems very few of you ever remove the cylinder from the revolver in order to clean the chambers.
I doubt that. It's very easy to remove and necessary to get a good hold so you can scrub the tubes.
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I am another who takes out the cylinder each and every time I shoot my revolvers.Besides the satisfaction of having a clean gun I find that I pick up many small items I might not have found if I wasn't so compulsive.....God Bless...Mike
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I always take cyl. off for cleaning. Like many of the comments made the key is a proper fitting screwdriver bit.
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"I almost always remove the cylinder and yoke when I clean a S&W revolver. The yoke barrel and stud get pretty gunked up and I want those bearing surfaces clean and lightly lubed. Proper fitting screwdrivers and a little care prevent damaging the screw."

+1. I don't think you can effectively clean it without removing the cylinder. I am pretty thorough with cleaning my guns, though not so obsessive that I try to remove the burn rings at the front of the chambers!
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No almost I remove the cylinder, grips , and latch cover every time I clean the gun.
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I almost always remove the cylinder and yoke when I clean a S&W revolver. The yoke barrel and stud get pretty gunked up and I want those bearing surfaces clean and lightly lubed. Proper fitting screwdrivers and a little care prevent damaging the screw.

Ps. I wash behind my ears, too!
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In fact, I clean everything thoroughly, on my gun, and myself.
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+1. I don't think you can effectively clean it without removing the cylinder. I am pretty thorough with cleaning my guns, though not so obsessive that I try to remove the burn rings at the front of the chambers!
I on the other hand am very obsessive... no rings for me.
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:01 PM
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I guess I'm in the minority, but I remove the cylinder much less frequently than everyone else that has replied to this post. When I was shooting in a police pistol league, I would "field" clean my revolver, either a Model 14 or 15, depending on whether it was bullseye or combat, after every shoot. This means that the cylinder, yoke, chambers, bore, and frame would be cleaned of all lead and powder residue; critical areas lubed, and the whole gun given a general wipe-down. At the end of the season, I would completely dismantle, clean, lube, and reassemble. Generally, I did this twice a year for competition guns, and once a year for carry guns; we qualified once a quarter with a 60 round course. I never had a reliability problem with any of my guns.
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I usually go at least 500 rounds of cast(and often 1000)before cleaning. When I do eventually clean the yoke, cylinder, and frame get separated from each other.
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I'm with wayne M and do not clean as often as some on here. I have never had a clean problem as far as the cylinder and crane go. But I do take them out and clean them at least four times each year. And last year I shoot over 15000 rounds, but with several different handguns.
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I keep hoping someone else would ask ... "how do you remove the Cylinder"?
I don't see any instructions about that in the Owners Manual.
Guess I'll have to be the "Newbie" to ask the question.
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I'm new to S&W revolvers myself, I have a new 642. Awesome little gun. On the right side of the frame there are several screws. The one just above (and a little ahead of) the trigger is the one I had to remove. After removal of that screw, the whole cylinder assembly will come off.
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Quick Tip: You guys running out and getting screw driver kits to take apart the revolver, remember getting the right size drivers is only half the task.. I've not seen a stock set yet that had the bits properly fitted for removing the sideplate screws.. They "all" need to be gound/filed and dressed so the bit fills the entire slot of the screw. To do that, find the bit thats the correct width for the screw, then grind it down till its "fat" enough to fill the slot properly. Once ya got that, dress any sharp edges with a file.. Now have at it!!
Oh yea, a link to a great thread on takedown, repair, and reassembly of a "modern" S&W K frame revolver.. (J frames are basically the same, sans the coiled main spring which needs to be removed by partially cocking the hammer and slipping a paperclip into the hole, then letting the hammer back down.. The spring will then slip right out. Leave the paperclip in it for reinstalling..)The S&W Revolver by Sylvan Forge (A basic recap of Jerry Kuhnhausen's Manual)
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I keep hoping someone else would ask ... "how do you remove the Cylinder"?
I don't see any instructions about that in the Owners Manual.
Guess I'll have to be the "Newbie" to ask the question.
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My only experience is with the big X frames. For them, you just remove the small screw closest to the muzzle (on the sideplate), release the cylinder and then gently pull it forward and out it comes. Don
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Maybe the crane is tougher than I think, but I always remove the cylinder before cleaning it. I do this to avoid possibly bending the crane under the stresses caused while cleaning the cylinder bores and the cylinder face.

If the crane were to get bent, it's a lot more expensive to repair than a new screw.

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From what I just read on this subject somewhere on this forum, it seems very few of you ever remove the cylinder from the revolver in order to clean the chambers.

How you do manage to get them clean without loosening the front sideplate screw, taking the crane out & slipping the cylinder off, is beyond me.

At least NOW I understand why all the front sideplate screws on the guns in your photo's are always so pristine ! You just never touch them, right ?

i'm not sure where you read that no one removes the cylinder to clean but.....guess that may require a bit more investigation on your part huh?
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Oh yea, a link to a great thread on takedown, repair, and reassembly of a "modern" S&W K frame revolver.. (J frames are basically the same, sans the coiled main spring which needs to be removed by partially cocking the hammer and slipping a paperclip into the hole, then letting the hammer back down.. The spring will then slip right out. Leave the paperclip in it for reinstalling..)The S&W Revolver by Sylvan Forge (A basic recap of Jerry Kuhnhausen's Manual)
Maybe it's just me, but all picture links in that linked post are broken. Can't see a thing.
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Maybe the crane is tougher than I think, but I always remove the cylinder before cleaning it. I do this to avoid possibly bending the crane under the stresses caused while cleaning the cylinder bores and the cylinder face.

If the crane were to get bent, it's a lot more expensive to repair than a new screw.

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I have wondered about the same thing, but I have yet to remove the cylinder during cleaning. I just try to hold the cylinder in a way that prevents torsion in relation to the frame.
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I'm one that does remove crane rarely. Usually when I get a 'new' used revolver for a decent cleaning/oiling/inspection.

Proper sized cast lead and moderate loads of Tite Group do not promote massive fouling that lead me to 'frequent' sideplate and cylinder tear down.

And I have FOUR screwdriver sets to make sure something fits. Perhaps we're all OCD in difference ways....
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I've never taken the cylinder out of my old J frame when cleaning. Years now and no problem. I try not to touch any screws in any gun, just me.
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I've fired more than 2,000 rounds each from my S&W 637 (bought seven years ago) and 686+ (bought three years ago). I clean them every time I shoot them, but have yet to remove THAT screw -- because I had read on websites such as this one that this is not necessary, and indeed is an opportunity to screw things up. I intend to let my grandsons do that some day.

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I remove it every time. You simply can't clean it all without removing the cylinder. I've been removing mine for years on all of my revolvers, never an issue... only clean guns.
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Maybe the crane is tougher than I think, but I always remove the cylinder before cleaning it. I do this to avoid possibly bending the crane under the stresses caused while cleaning the cylinder bores and the cylinder face.

If the crane were to get bent, it's a lot more expensive to repair than a new screw.

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I started shooting competitively with my duty revolver with my Sheriff's Office (Coconino County) in 1975. That, and decades of IPSC revolver work helped me to develop good cleaning habits. I would clean cylinder (not removed) and bore after each match. I would drop the side plate on my Smith's or Python once a year and remove the cylinder. I might, rarely, remove the cylinder to clean inside and the crane if I could physically begin to feel it bind; I'm sure that must have happended once or twice, but I don't ever recall it. I never bent a crane nor heard of anyone bending a crane from cleaning or anything else.

I just sent my Python to Frank Glenn yesterday to have the crane removed and cleaned thoroughly for the first time. I purchased it in 1976 and figured that after 33 years, I could detect the cylinder rotation slowing just a bit.
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Last weekend I removed the yoke/cylinder assembly from guns I'd not previously disassembled, and found a bit of red Loc-Tite on the yoke screws. Is this necessary or advisable? Any issues with that screw backing out? Guns in question are J frame .357s ...
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I read somewhere that the Yoke/cylinder assembly screw may be ccw on some S&Ws True ????? I have a New 327 2 inch barrel
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I only remove the cylinder if it feels "sticky."
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I read somewhere that the Yoke/cylinder assembly screw may be ccw on some S&Ws True ????? I have a New 327 2 inch barrel
No, I believe you are thinking of the extractor rod being different in older S&W revolvers. The older revolvers use clockwise threading on the extractor rod. As far as I know, any fairly modern S&W revolver has regular threading on the yoke retention screw, or any of the sideplate screws for that matter.

As to removing my yoke and cylinder for cleaning, I do so any time I shoot a significant amount of ammo through my revolvers. It just makes it so much easier to clean things thoroughly.
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I remove the cylinder EVERYTIME I clean my guns. It makes the job sooo much easier and eliminates any stress on the crane. Another reminder to check all the screws on the frame for tightness.
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If you clean your revolver after every use, run a patch with your favorite solution through the bore and chambers and let it soak for a little while, maybe a half hour, then then run more patches with solution and then dry patches several times, then wipe the entire surface, especially inside the cylinder window, cylinder face, then the exterior. Unless you are shooting some excessively hot loads that may lead the bore there is seldom a need for a brush, (if you clean it soon after shooting). Maybe every 10 or so uses a drop of oil on the yoke and and extractor rod, and maybe once a year or two remove the cylinder and possibly remove the side plate (if there has been maybe 5000-7000 rounds p/yr shot) and clean and lube the interior. If revolvers are not heavily used, being shot 10-12 times per year a box or two it might need some lube at about 10-12 years.
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I have been shooting revolvers since 1955--never ever had to remove the crane and cylinder on a Smith or Colt or Ruger double action to clean and lube---mine were kept spotless. The Ruger and Colt single actions were a different story.
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I'm OCD about my guns and enjoy cleaning them after the range. I always remove the cylinder and grips when cleaning. I only take off the side plate after every other range trip though.
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Disassembling a S&W revolver to clean it is absolutely unnecessary. I have shot my 44s for years without disassembly. I have never had a problem and don't anticipate having one.

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