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Old 02-11-2009, 01:59 PM
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I know the 617 is a better handgun but what would I be giving up vs the Taurus Tracker 7 shot 6.5" barrell?
3 shot of course but what else??
i saw one at the local gun show last weekend and have never considered it before but it is half the price so why should I not buy the Taurus?
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I know the 617 is a better handgun but what would I be giving up vs the Taurus Tracker 7 shot 6.5" barrell?
3 shot of course but what else??
i saw one at the local gun show last weekend and have never considered it before but it is half the price so why should I not buy the Taurus?
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Customer service; if new, the S&W has a lifetime warranty, if its used, they still will do a great job fixing anything that goes wrong.

If the S&W has the new type rear sight it is easy to put a dot sight on if and have a mini Bianchi cup gun/silhouette/hunting gun also...

For ammo-Federal 550 at wal-mart, trust me on that.
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Which one do you think is a better investment, the S&W or Taurus? My 617 is a six shot, and my Taurus miss-fires even after a trip to the factory.
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We can make all kinds of comparisons. There is no product someone can't make cheaper and worse. You need to make the decision yourself. I don't know you, or how you handle frustration. All we can do is make the comparison based on our past experience. You've picked an easy one to make the comparison.

The K22 series or line of guns goes way back to 1930. Its one of the most successful lines of handguns ever produced. Its the benchmark all other 22 revolvers and even handguns are compared against. Historically, if you buy a K22, you can keep it for anywhere from a decade to half a century. Then resell it with ease for significantly more than you paid. All the while shooting it and enjoying it.

The K22 is an offshoot of the also very successful M&P line. Very few people who own a K22 are ever sorry they've bought it.

Compare with the generic Taurus. The guns generally have a terrible reputation for requiring repairs. They are admittedly a cheap knockoff of the K22. If a few k22s require return for service, a significant percentage of Taurus revolvers seem to malfunction. Some the owners just give up and dump them.

S&W admittedly charge a high price for their guns. Most dealers will discount those prices pretty much. The profit margin on the Taurus is even higher, hence the tendency of some dealers to push them. The problem lies in trying to resell a gun you very well might not like. The dealer doesn't want it back, and if he takes it, he's got to make money on the resale. He's taking what he assumes is a distressed item (you are dumping it for a reason.) He can buy as many new ones from the distributor as he wants. He's got to give you a lowball offer.

To test that, go to a few gun shops and a large gunshow or two. What you'll see is an occasional gun in a display, and a fairly low, maybe attractive price. You take your risks.

If you go back and try to resell a K22, its much easier. Everyone wants them. Experience has shown a K22 of any vintage doesn't sit long. A used k22 is a very marketable item. Carry one to a gunshow sometime and see how many folks hit on you. Better still... put on your football pads and helmet and carry in an early one in its red box. You'll be tackled by a mob before you get thru the door.
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The reason for the higher priced 617 is very apparent when you use it. You're giving up quality. Taurus is a BIG step DOWN.
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Old 02-11-2009, 04:39 PM
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Just like the old saying: YOU get what you pay for. Buy the tarus and never shoot it and try to sale it, you will be lucky to sale for 3/4 of the price you payed for it. I see this every show, they don't bring them to our table because they know we won't touch it.
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Have appx1/2 dozen smith 22s all different models. All excellent revolvers. I also own one Taurus tracker. There is no comparison. It took 4 trips back to Taurus to get the tracker to function properly. That is over a 2 year period. Their lifetime repair policy is a joke. it means it will take you a lifetime to get it right.
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Just like the old saying: YOU get what you pay for. Buy the taurus and never shoot it and try to sell it. You will be lucky to sale for 3/4 of the price you paid for it. I see this every show, they don't bring them to our table because they know we won't touch it.
Well now, you cannot prove that one by me! I had a blue Taurus Tracker in .17 HMR, bought it new-in-box for $249.00. It shot perfectly, but it was an impulse buy. 1-1/2 years later, I took it to a show and sold it for $250.00, maybe I just got lucky.

I admit I have 2 other Taurus guns. A blue steel PT 1911 (the EVERY first one to arrive in Lubbock Texas), and a stainless PT 1911. Both have always shot perfectly, (my cast bullet hand
loads only).

BTW, I DO own a sweet K-22.

I'm not taking sides on this one, just saying ANYTHING mechanical can break, or malfunction.

S&W and Taurus both have lifetime repair policies.
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I know the 617 is a better handgun but what would I be giving up vs the Taurus Tracker 7 shot 6.5" barrell?
3 shot of course but what else??
i saw one at the local gun show last weekend and have never considered it before but it is half the price so why should I not buy the Taurus?
Because the can be a real piece of junk and if you look around a bit you can find a 617 with a 10 shot cylinder!
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I always wanted a good .22 rimfire revolver. I put off such a purchase until last autumn, when I bought this new 10-shot 617. Yeah, my 625JM, 629s, 686P, etc, cost less new - and they were all fairly recent purchases as they have ILs. I tried a SA - no way. I tried my friend's short-ownership of a Taurus - horrible experience (He now owns new a 5" 63!). He has had a few Tauri - some were quite functional. All he has left now is a PT1911 - it worked well enough for him, but their revolvers are gone.

I had to rationalize $645, inc s/t, for a .22 revolver last fall. I had to fund it by selling my MKII and accessories. In retrospect, why did I wait so long?? The 617 is likely one revolver you'll keep forever... believe me. Mine borroewd the fg square conversion cocobolo stocks from Ahrends for the picture, but now sports the perfect, for me, retro targets Kim Ahrends makes. Break it in with cheap ammo - or match grade - your choice - it could care less!



Sell/trade something (Not an S&W!) - save your lunch money - get the 617. You'll thank me later.

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I had a Tracker and thought the trigger pull was just awful compared to the S&W 617. I have a 617 with an 8 3/8" bbl (no longer made) and 4" bbl. Both are ten shots compared to the Tracker's six. I think you get what you pay for. I traded the Tracker off as soon as I could. I would go for a 6" 617 if I had to buy another one. I had a 6" model 17 six shot and it was a very nice pistol, too.
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Originally posted by pocket:
I know the 617 is a better handgun but what would I be giving up vs the Taurus Tracker 7 shot 6.5" barrell?
3 shot of course but what else??
i saw one at the local gun show last weekend and have never considered it before but it is half the price so why should I not buy the Taurus?
If you desire to buy a cheap revolver that may or may not work when new, and which has no customer service despite a claim of a lifetime warranty, then by all means, get the Taurus.

You get what you pay for, and if the S&W is more expensive it is because there truly is a vast difference. In car terms, it is like a Yugo versus a Mercedes Benz. I was going to make an American car comparison, and while I could think of Cadillac to represent the S&W, I could not really think of any American car that is a bad a car as the Taurus is a gun.
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