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Old 09-07-2008, 05:26 PM
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I briefly owned a S&W .357 Mountain Gun, a seven shot. Never could get used to it. Nice gun, but it was....well....just "wrong". My mind functions best with a six shot revolver, sometimes five, but over six made me feel like I was going to forget there was more than six, and I'd end up firing another round in the wrong place/wrong direction. Anyone else uneasy with more than six?
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I briefly owned a S&W .357 Mountain Gun, a seven shot. Never could get used to it. Nice gun, but it was....well....just "wrong". My mind functions best with a six shot revolver, sometimes five, but over six made me feel like I was going to forget there was more than six, and I'd end up firing another round in the wrong place/wrong direction. Anyone else uneasy with more than six?
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I've got several Smith & Wesson .22s and .357s, all of them six shooters. I just don't like the concept of 7, 8 or 10 round revolvers.
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Yes, it is you! True revolvers have five.....
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I too like six shooters. They just feel right.
I would ,however, like my Super Single Six Ruger turned into a Super Single Eight. A lot of metal for a six shot.
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I don't know ,,,, theres a lot of guys who dig the 7 and 8 shots ,,Me included .


Being around guns should engender a hyper awareness, always knowing just what is going on with my gun is my job.


Six shots are the bees knees but I'd be damn hard pressed to give this one up,







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I'm with you Twoguns, a revolver having more than six holes is unnatural. Besides, the cylinders are weaker.
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Its all about what you're used to. I have no problem with a 7 or 8 shooter if that's what you like. I've just become so familar with a six shooter that I no longer have to count shots. I just know when the gun is empty from habit.
When shooting one of my J-frame 5 shooters I often find myself pulling the trigger a sixth time without realizing it.
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5 or 6, anything else is a freak.
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I am amazed some of you can operate any machinery at all when a seven or eight shot revolver is "confusing".
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Anything over 6 shots is a product of Satan.

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I am amazed some of you can operate any machinery at all when a seven or eight shot revolver is "confusing".
I have no problem when shooting various autos, with capacities all over the place. But 40 years of revolver shooting with mainly six shots, and I have learned to "operate" with six. I don't waste shots with a revolver, and automatically count and reload when six are fired (or tactical reload if situation allows or demands). I guess hanging on to the concept of wheelguns, for me, goes hand in hand with thinking of them as six shooters. A seven or eight shot wheelgun does feel a little demonic!
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:23 PM
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Great Picture, Allen-Frame! I won't get involved with the "ideal" number of shots. I'll shoot almost anything that well-made - no matter how many rounds it offers.

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Seven shooters ain't natural...kindda like two boys kissing.
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My favorite revolver is a LeMat. You don't have to load it as often. Oh, did you mean one of those new fangled cartridge guns? I just don't trust those!
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"...he chose for himself five smooth stones from the brook, and put them in a shepherd's bag, in a pouch which he had, and his sling was in his hand. And he drew near to the Philistine."

Sounds like five is all you need.
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Yes more than 6 seems unnatural, but it's nice to have 8 rounds in an N frame 357. Those 6 shot model 27s and 28s seem like they waste a lot of metal, when there's room for 8. If 6 is good 8 must be better.
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I really like the idea of my 7 shot 686 Plus. Hey look at it this way. You ever get into a shoot out, and fire 5 or 6 shots, the badguy may think you are out. Surprise! In a CCW, or even at the range, more rounds the better.
However, when I got my 686 plus, 2.5 magnaported, combat revolver package, dehorned, it was a Performance Ctr gun. No speed loaders were avail, that I knew of. There were only 500 made like the one I bought, at that time, and the deal clincher WAS, the 7 round capacity. Just my .02.
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... No speed loaders were avail, that I knew of. There were only 500 made like the one I bought, at that time, and the deal clincher WAS, the 7 round capacity. Just my .02.
I'm with you on the 7-count. There are speed loaders for the 7-shooters, though, I trust you've found them by now.
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I'd end up firing another round in the wrong place/wrong direction. Anyone else uneasy with more than six?
I stop squeezing the trigger and keep the gun pointed down range when I am done shooting (until I clear the cylinder). My guns rarely go bang in the wrong direction when I follow this practice.
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I like six, could live with eight, but not seven.
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Dirty Harry's speech would have sounded funny with 7 shots.
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Does anyone remember the Bugs Bunny cartoon where Yosemite Sam pulls his revolver, which says "Six-shooter" on the side. Then Bugs pulls a "Seven-shooter" then Sam pulls the "eight-shooter" then Bugs pulls a "nine-shooter" ....

Damn that was funny.

(I just looked it up the cartoon was "Hare Trigger")

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Hence my signature line.
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I have 5s,6s,7s,8s&10s and I love them all. I really like shooting my moon clipped clark custom 686+ with 6" barrel. It seems to just suck up those moon clips. ah yes I love them all.
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I stop squeezing the trigger and keep the gun pointed down range when I am done shooting (until I clear the cylinder). My guns rarely go bang in the wrong direction when I follow this practice.

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I know there are people who NEVER in their life will have an accidental discharge, who use safe gun practices all the time, and who count every shot, even in "high capacity" revolvers. Obviously, you will NEVER have a problem with a 7 or 8 shot revolver, ever. But for us old brainwashed codgers, who might be less than perfect, I just wondered if anyone felt the same as I did about six shooters being just...right.....
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... No speed loaders were avail, that I knew of. There were only 500 made like the one I bought, at that time, and the deal clincher WAS, the 7 round capacity. Just my .02.
I'm with you on the 7-count. There are speed loaders for the 7-shooters, though, I trust you've found them by now.
Thats a 10-4. Hey 10+4=14, and half of that is 7. Whoa!
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Those 6 shot model 27s and 28s seem like they waste a lot of metal, when there's room for 8. If 6 is good 8 must be better.
Actually Tom, when I'm running heavy charges of Lilgun or 2400, that extra metal is comforting.
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Actually i like my seven, it's nice to know that extra round is there if the situation demands it. Although it has crossed my mind about the cylinder being weaker.
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I know there are people who NEVER in ther life will have an accidental discharge, who use safe gun practices all the time, and who count every shot, even in "high capacity" revolvers. Obviously, you will NEVER have a problem with a 7 or 8 shot revolver, ever. But for us old brainwashed codgers, who might be less than perfect, I just wondered if anyone felt the same as I did about six shooters being just...right.....
So tell me TwoGunsStanding How old is old codger?
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I briefly owned a S&W .357 Mountain Gun, a seven shot. Never could get used to it. Nice gun, but it was....well....just "wrong". My mind functions best with a six shot revolver, sometimes five, but over six made me feel like I was going to forget there was more than six, and I'd end up firing another round in the wrong place/wrong direction. Anyone else uneasy with more than six?
The 7 shot 686 Mountain Gun is the single best, most versatile revolver has ever made, bar none. It can be used with light target loads for target practice, full 125 grain JHPs for self-defense, 180s for hunting, it holds one more than the K frame, weighs about the same, has a round butt for ease of carry, is lively in the hand, has the strongest cylinder by virtue of the offset locking notches (in between the charge holes instead of directly over the thinnest part), and it has adjustable sights to allow zeroing for a wide variety of different loads.

Conventional wisdom has always been that if you could only own one revolver, it should be a 4 inch .357 medium frame S&W. The 686 7 shot Mountain Gun IS that revolver!
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This sounds like a Mr. Monk thing, having to have even numbers or something.

Well, I've got five, six, and eight shot revolvers, but I've also got semiautomatics that make me count to seven, eight, ten, fifteen, and eighteen. I think it's my having studied music, and percussion in particular, that makes that easy for me. One gets used to whatever number of beats there are in a measure being repeated, and whatever number that is, that's what it is, whether two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine, twelve, or whatever. There's a song in Jesus Christ Superstar that goes, 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3, 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3, over and over like that. So 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 isn't that big a deal. I like that eight shot N frame .357, by the way.
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Born in 1952, been shooting handguns regularly for 42 years.
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If you need more than five or six, get to the range and pratice.

Of course you could say that more than six is just an extention of your man hood

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Born in 1952, been shooting handguns regularly for 42 years.
Shoot Thats not old, I was born in 1946 and that isn't old either. Now if you were born in the 30's now your getting close. LOL
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If you need more than five or six, get to the range and pratice. ...
That's per assailant. I figure you don't get to pick in advance how many there'll be if one is involved in an "incident". You don't even get to fill out an application. I've also got three fire extinguishers in different parts of my house, but I hope I never have to actually rely on all three at once.
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I like seven.
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I'd end up firing another round in the wrong place/wrong direction. Anyone else uneasy with more than six?


I stop squeezing the trigger and keep the gun pointed down range when I am done shooting (until I clear the cylinder). My guns rarely go bang in the wrong direction when I follow this practice.

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I know there are people who NEVER in their life will have an accidental discharge, who use safe gun practices all the time, and who count every shot, even in "high capacity" revolvers. Obviously, you will NEVER have a problem with a 7 or 8 shot revolver, ever. But for us old brainwashed codgers, who might be less than perfect, I just wondered if anyone felt the same as I did about six shooters being just...right.....
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I didn't mean to sound lika a smart axx.
My point was that I am equally uneasy with 5, 6, or 7, shot revolvers. I had an A.D. 30 years ago. Since then, regardless of how many they hold, all guns make me uneasy until I can visibly see that the cylinder/chamber is clear.
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Nygma, I appreciate your contributions and honesty. I was poking fun, as a friend of mine who always acted as if he would never have an accidental discharge finally had one after about 15-20 years of shooting (he would never tell me when it happened, only that it did). When I am handling any revolver, I think the flag goes up, but if handling and shooting something other than a six shooter, I get nervous a little more. Of course, single actions of Colt style should be loaded and carried with five, and guns should always be checked (I have gone the other way, and carried empty guns as CCW, having grabbed the wrong gun or not checked it as one is supposed to do). We have to constantly be aware that adopting a regular habit or routine of "check & respect" for any gun we are handling is a good idea. I saw the results of three people (not all law officers) handling/transporting a shotgun to the police indoor range and then the last guy (range officer) supposedly "clearing it" by racking it and "checking it" by then firing it at the ceiling. You guessed it. Soemone had put the gun into the arsenal loaded, the arms room officer grabbed it and sent it for a ride to the off-side range by a civiian employee, and then guy #3 fires it accidentally. The indoor range inner door was open and about 7-8 officers had their ears ringing for awhile. All guns are loaded at all times until proven differently.
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Well, I was born in 1954, and I have felt old for a few years now....

I can sympathize with the original poster; I learned to shoot with a s&w model 10, and learned to count 6 shots. I don't own any revolvers that carry more than 6, but I think I would have a hard time with higher numbers, at least for a while...
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The 7 shot mt. gun has replaced the model 19 as my favorite shooting revolver and I regularly carry ccw either a 3in 7 shot 686 or 681. But, each to his own.
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In a revolver I prefer a 6 shot. My Casull is 5, but for that particular pistol it's not an issue - five's plenty.
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:29 AM
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Yeah, I recycled a previous post from a different topic, but it just seems to fit so well...

I'm waiting on the 357 Lucky 13 in the X-Plus frame.

Finally a 357 that requires more than a fifty round box to fill four speedloaders.

Commemorative models will be introduced as the Bakers Dozen.

Side plate will have an etched brick oven.

Inscription will be, "Get Dusted, Flour Power."

"Devil's Dozen" will be rolled on the brl...
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Old 09-10-2008, 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by TwoGunsStanding:
I briefly owned a S&W .357 Mountain Gun, a seven shot. Never could get used to it. Nice gun, but it was....well....just "wrong". My mind functions best with a six shot revolver, sometimes five, but over six made me feel like I was going to forget there was more than six, and I'd end up firing another round in the wrong place/wrong direction. Anyone else uneasy with more than six?
Please tell me why you think you're going to violate at least two of the NRA gun safety rules just because the gun has one more round in it.

That's about as stupid as saying "I can't remember how to handle my 1911 because I went from seven round magazines to eight round magazines."

Since you cannot seem to remember the NRA gun safety rules:

http://www.nrahq.org/education/guide.asp

1. ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
This is the primary rule of gun safety. A safe direction means that the gun is pointed so that even if it were to go off it would not cause injury or damage. The key to this rule is to control where the muzzle or front end of the barrel is pointed at all times. Common sense dictates the safest direction, depending on different circumstances.

2. ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
When holding a gun, rest your finger on the trigger guard or along the side of the gun. Until you are actually ready to fire, do not touch the trigger.


3. ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.
Whenever you pick up a gun, immediately engage the safety device if possible, and, if the gun has a magazine, remove it before opening the action and looking into the chamber(s) which should be clear of ammunition. If you do not know how to open the action or inspect the chamber(s), leave the gun alone and get help from someone who does.
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