Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Revolvers > S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present
o

Notices

S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present All NON-PINNED Barrels, the L-Frames, and the New Era Revolvers


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-05-2008, 06:14 AM
anchors anchors is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Wilton,New York
Posts: 422
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Why do shooters dislike the locks so much?
__________________
Anchors
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-05-2008, 06:14 AM
anchors anchors is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Wilton,New York
Posts: 422
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Why do shooters dislike the locks so much?
__________________
Anchors
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-05-2008, 06:27 AM
Frankie2blue Frankie2blue is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Mass/Florida
Posts: 161
Likes: 3
Liked 62 Times in 16 Posts
Default

They two most commonly stated reasons would be that they are really ugly and have been known to have reliability issues for a personal defense gun. While I suspect the reliability issues are in the minority, they do ruin they classic lines of some otherwise elegant firearms for no good reason. I am sure that Very Few people actually use them. They are just about as effective as the warning labels that Ruger stamps on the barrels of all their guns. I am a huge fan of S&W and all that they have done, but absolutely refuse to ever own one of their locking guns.For that matter I don't own any of the MIM part guns either. The recent release of a few "limited" non lock guns though is giving me a glimmer of hope. There are a number of PC guns I will own if they ever become lock free.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-05-2008, 06:39 AM
Stophel's Avatar
Stophel Stophel is offline
Member
The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock  
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Back in Kentucky!!!
Posts: 465
Likes: 347
Liked 122 Times in 49 Posts
Default

That's pretty much it. They're horribly ugly, utterly unnecessary, and potentially dangerous.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-05-2008, 07:12 AM
ImprovedModel56Fan ImprovedModel56Fan is offline
US Veteran
The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock  
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MA
Posts: 7,330
Likes: 7,502
Liked 5,556 Times in 2,547 Posts
Default

I'm not sure what utterly unnecessary means, but I don't think that it applies to The Lock. Many years ago, I would have used one under certain limited circumstances if a reliable one were available. Unfortunately, there is not a reliable one available from S&W.

The addition of a limited-use device that has malfunctioned in a way that could easily get one killed, in exactly the circumstances for which one is carrying a gun, is unacceptable in a defensive weapon. I don't see anything wrong with it for a target piece, although in my present circumstances, I have absolutely no use for one.

You can avoid them pretty easily by buying a used gun, or neuter one if you have to have a particular new gun.
__________________
Formerly Model520Fan
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-05-2008, 01:12 PM
duckloads duckloads is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Nicholasville, Kentucky
Posts: 903
Likes: 1
Liked 27 Times in 13 Posts
Default

Quote:
the warning labels that Ruger stamps on the barrels
Now that's butt ugly.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-05-2008, 01:37 PM
pinkymingeo pinkymingeo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Florida
Posts: 729
Likes: 0
Liked 42 Times in 23 Posts
Default

Further down the page you'll notice a thread about a no-lock frame failure. The general reaction is ho-hum. Mention the lock and the screams begin. Makes you wonder about some people's ability to keep things in perspective, doesn't it?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-05-2008, 01:48 PM
18DAI's Avatar
18DAI 18DAI is offline
Absent Comrade
The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock The S&W revolver lock  
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: GSO NC
Posts: 6,106
Likes: 23,604
Liked 13,182 Times in 2,860 Posts
Default

pinkymingeo - You didn't provide a link to the thread you referenced, but if you are talking about the cracked frame 638-2 thread, the reactions didn't seem "ho-hum".

Rather, the majority of the responses were of disgust with the inferior lock equipped revolver that Safety Wesson will likely replace the cracked 638-2 with.

Didn't notice any screams either Just disgust with the current production revolvers. Nothing new there, well, for some of us. Regards 18DAI.
__________________
7 +1 Rounds of hope & change
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-05-2008, 02:35 PM
Alx Alx is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Middle Tennessee
Posts: 106
Likes: 1
Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts
Default

I think it is generally agreed that the IL is a STORAGE lock, not meant to be locked on the gun if loaded, kept nearby for defense, or carried.
Then, as a storage lock, its function could be better supplied by an external trigger lock, either keyed or one of the combination type. That would satisfy the storage lock function without degrading and complicating the gun's design.
If the IL key is lost, then you have to have or get another one, or take the gun apart before it is ready to use. So if you can keep track of a key, why not keep track of a key or combination to an EXTERNAL separate trigger lock ? The IL is not truly internal anyway if it needs an external and separate key to work.

If Smith found it advisable to incorporate a storage lock, by the same precepts is it only a matter of time before there will be a safety switch/lever also ?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
lock, ruger

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Does or has anyone use(d) the lock on their revolver? xssv S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 58 09-08-2014 10:45 PM
Revolver Lock-Up Mike-4 S&W-Smithing 11 05-19-2014 02:31 PM
WTB 2nd or 3rd gen or pre lock revolver. perfectcircle1 WANTED to Buy 0 01-23-2013 08:51 PM
WTB S&W Revolver Lock Key rug357 WANTED to Buy 2 02-23-2012 12:14 PM
Value of a 638-2 'pre-lock' revolver? surfdog76 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 5 01-03-2009 03:03 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:32 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)