Sgt127 - In the July 1987 Class (I was in Company 87-73) we chose our service revolver in the following manner. Around August the department set out a table, you picked up one of two weapons as a male, either the Ruger, or the S&W. I chose the Ruger because my hands are very big, and the S&W just didn't sit well.

We were the first for these particular weapons; they were both spurless as you see in this picture. The only change I made was to the grips, again because of the size of my hands. The day that the person you spoke about meant, was "Gun and Shield Day" - that’s the day we receive our shields, and the guns we had already owned, and used at the range. The department held them until this particular day - so these were chosen by us five-months prior.

We NEVER had a spurred-hammer on this particular S/S model, nor did any service revolvers, or semi's have spurs after the October 1987 graduating class - we graduated in January 1988 - and when we headed to field training, NSU, all the precinct cops had to see these weapons - since we were the first. While you had these firearms, once a veteran saw you with it he knew you didn't come on before July 1987 - unless of course you for some insane reason opted to use this opposed to a blued .38 that you may have had before July 1987.

I had an 892 tax number, those in here who know about the NYPD know what that means - it depicts the time I came on.

But the picture you show is identical as mine, however no spurs were on the hammers - we were not qualified, or allowed to have them on starting in my class.

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Partialy true, several other departments (NYC) were permitted to purchase firearms directly from the equip section. Corrections was allowed at one time to purchase M-10 revolvers.

I purchased 2 model 36's with 3" heavy barrels from the equip section back in 82. They were $61 bucks each, were originally offered as service revolvers (on duty) for police women. I gave one to my father-in-law who had a carry permit (jeweler) and I still have one. BTW, the serial numbers are sequencial.

So, without checking, I would figure the ES had guns ny-1's in stock long after the recall.

RET_NYPD_MOS:

I may have used my own phrase when I said "Gun Day". He described exactly as you did, guns laying on a table, pick the one you like and thats what you will get.

Does yours have the "STAR" inside the yoke?

I cannot. for the life of me, figure out the hammer with a spur. It letters, through Ruger, as an NYPD gun. Yet, it has the spur. I know I got it direct from an NYPD Cop. He put ten years in with NYPD and then went to Nassau county.

Maybe when he left NYPD he took it to a local gunsmith and had a spurred hammer put back in...thats all I can figure.

I also have a Ruger SP-NY. Found it new in the box 10 years ago.

Last time I was in NY, I saw a few old cops carrying revolvers. I looked for a Ruger, but, it seemed most that I saw were Smith 64's. I wonder how many Rugers were ever carried?

I guess I have a particular attachment to NYC. I lived in NYC proper for about a year, when I was a kid and then lived in Valley Stream on long island for about 5 years.

It was not unheard of for someone with a friend at the range to get a revolver changed back to spurred hammer and single/double action sear before separating from the Dept.

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I bought 2 Ruger off duty's at the Equip Sec, Speed Six's. One Blue and one SS. Blue had 2 3/4 " bbl and the SS 3" Blue had a hammer and SS was DAO. I changed the SS to hammer. Got the hammers from SILE on Centre Market Place. I used to work p/t at Jovino's in the 70's. I came on before the change over to DAO, which I think was mentioned in another post, around '87.

I'm sorry I sold both Rugers, they were great guns.

I would guess that he had it, as you stated, modified by merely having a gunsmith exchange a spurred - no, I do not have the star as you have shown - again, I was in the first class, it may have come afterwards.

Honestly, in my company of almost 50 recruits, only a few of us picked the Ruger - I love the weapon - when I pull on the trigger I get a dead spot where I can hold the hammer - but then again I was in a shooting with it in 1993 - and there was no aiming - just shooting
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It's not a matter of being true or not - we're talking about post 1987 - before that I have no idea what the department equipment sections policy happen to be at the time - truthfully - I don’t even care what their policy was, or is. All I can say is what I know as a MOS from the day I came on, until the day I retired. The equipment section was so under stocked that we had to call before even making the trip to Puzzle Plaza just to make sure they had even one off-duty available for sale - same goes for my highway rain gear that took me over a year to get from them. The one thing they always had in stock - gun belts - why? Because they were regular black trouser belts - yep, $5 leather belts is what we used when I came on, and probably for 100 years before that as well. We had to go out on our own if we wanted to purchase Sam Browne rigs - which subsequently became mandatory when we went to 9MM's.

After the academy, I rarely purchased anything from the Equip Sec. I bought all my equip, about 90% from Paul's in the Bronx. Other stuff I ordered direct from Mfgrs. I got my britches from Jasper and eventually ordered my boots (HWY 82-92) from California that my CHP buddy turned me on to.

All I said was, the equip sec did sell, on occassion, to other NYC agency's.

And Ret_NYPD_MOS...Keep the shinny side up and "BEND EM" all!

Wow...lots of memories...shield day, first day in NSU 2 (tax 882XXX)...I still have my S&W model 10 and Model 36, both with blue Tyler grip adapters. The service ammo then was 158 gr. semi-wadcutters.

Now retired living in Florida, I've embraced a 642-1 for daily carry (with S&W wood grips and brushed aluminum T grip of course)...and the upgraded ammo...Gold Dot 135+P short barrel

Hi Everyone

Ret MOS you bring great memories

My tax number was 894***

My class was the second or third to have the NY-1 revolver(1988 I think second)
my collection is growing fast with my friends leaving the job.

I love the S&W model 64 four inch the best, but I still have a few 3" around.

I purchased a few at the equipment section all are very well fitted with clean action.

Over the years I did see a bunch of fake NY-1, lot of cylinder bind, my guess some gun stores sent out a bunch of frames to get the NY-1 stamp from some guy having a bad day with the hammer and the yokes were mixed up and made proper fitting near impossible for a quack gunsmith. oh well
the fake stamps are easy to spot.

stay safe!!!

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