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Old 08-11-2013, 11:30 AM
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Before I spend near 4 figures for a J framed S&W, I'd rather buy a 642 and a 638, ILS and all, with money left over to buy quite a bit of ammo.
I tend to agree, but really, your sentiment makes perfect sense since a Scandium-alloy frame gun with a stainless cylinder is nothing much different than any other normal, modern Airweight. Like you, I have used Airweights for a long time. I understand things can go wrong with them but the risk is worth it, to me. Things can go wrong with the steel-frame guns, too.

We've said it before around here: If you are worried about the frame of your Airweight cracking, just be sure to buy a new one so you have a factory warranty. Chances are good you won't need it, but if you do, you will have it. Also agree the IL is not much of factor. Stupid and unnecessary, yes, but easily deactivated if it worries you.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:32 AM
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I own the M&P version of this scandium J-frame .357, and I've had none of these problems:


This model has a stainless steel cylinder, coated with what appears to be melonite. The worse that has happened is a little bit of what I would call "scorching" on the front face of the cylinder, which is apparent in this picture. I have fired 110 grain .357 Winchester White Box in this gun, as well as my 125 grain .357 Critical Defense carry load, and even a 158 grain jacketed soft point white tail hunting load.....which beat the hell out of my hand, but didn't seem to hurt the gun one bit.

I initially bought the M&P340 when I was shopping for a PD model, but the store I bought from didn't have the PD. I "settled" for the M&P. The reason I initially thought I had "settled," was because I really had my heart set on the additional 2 oz less of weight that the PD offers compared to the M&P. But in hindsight, 2 oz doesn't matter a hill of beans when you're comparing an 11 oz gun to a 13 oz gun—both are insanely light—and I'm actually happier for having the more robust cylinder of the two pistols.

I also prefer the huge Trijicon "express" front sight on the gun. This is not my primary carry weapon, and all of my carry guns have Trijicon sights on them, but with the exception of the orange Trijicon HD sights on one of my semiautos, this system on the M&P340 works better than the rest of of them.

The M&P340 is the best snubby I've ever owned, and that includes an 642 I used to own, and a 2" 640, plus the 642CT that my wife still owns (and never carries because she can't handle the trigger pull....something about carpel tunnel...).
I just bought a 642 but the 340 will be my next. Anything else you can say about it?
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:28 AM
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I recently bought a 340PD and my only complaint would be the slightly canted front sight due to the off center barrel shroud. Some of my .38 Special handloads use Alliant Power Pistol and 125 gr. jacketed and cast bullets. This creates a huge fireball at the muzzle but there is no cylinder damage with this combination.

The savings in weight compared to my other J Frames is amazing. This revolver definitely serves a vital purpose and I'm glad I bought it. And this is coming from a former non-believer.

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Old 11-26-2013, 04:51 PM
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The savings in weight compared to my other J Frames is amazing. This revolver definitely serves a vital purpose and I'm glad I bought it. And this is coming from a former non-believer.
Another convert. I remember the day I picked up my 340PD at the gun club. I suppose at least 10 guys handled it before I left. In about half of the cases, you could see the light go on when they picked it up. The other half immediately launched into (uninformed) huffing and puffing about how 4-5 ounces didn't make any difference to them and the gun was "worthless."

You can learn all sorts of things at a gun club if you keep quiet and listen.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:07 PM
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I've had my 340SC (silver colored) quite a few years now and no problems whatsoever. I have put approximately 50 rounds of 125gr JHP 357 ammo, and many more assorted 38 rounds through it. I have added Crimson Trace Laser Grips. It is quite accurate and is my EDC, loaded with 38 target wadcutters.

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Old 11-28-2013, 01:42 AM
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Every action has an equal & opposite reaction. The lighter a gun is, the easier it will pack & the more it will recoil. You could say that these airlites "float like a butterlfly and sting like a bee". I own several steel & stainless Chiefs as well as an airweight Chief & an airweight Centennial. Esp considering the price on the scandium/ti revolvers, I'm satisfied with what I have.
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:14 AM
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Old 12-14-2013, 10:11 PM
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Very informative. I have a 360 scandium with steel cylinder. It too has the no less than 120 grain on barrel. The response from S&W (per op)said that was for 357 only and didn't seem to apply to the use of 38 spl. I just purchased critical defense 38 +P for my 638 38 spl and was hoping I could use it in my 360 as well.
Defiantly going to the manuals on both as soon as I finish typing.1
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Well I guess after looking at that photo,
none of my guns are flame cut... lol
This one’s not flame cut either. It’s just the finish on the front of the cylinder that is a little scorched. BTW, my blued all steel 5” Model 29 has slight scorch marks in the exact same spot, and there’s not a spec of scandium on that gun. So......
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:34 AM
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This one’s not flame cut either. It’s just the finish on the front of the cylinder that is a little scorched. BTW, my blued all steel 5” Model 29 has slight scorch marks in the exact same spot, and there’s not a spec of scandium on that gun. So......
Over 5 year old thread boss...
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:23 AM
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Over 5 year old thread boss...
Do you think he knows he posted in this thread in 2013.. One of his 3 total onsite?
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Maybe that's why they put the warning in all cap's on the side of the barrel.


Have to agree with S&W chad,Kinda like taking the family sedan to the local dirt track,then wondering why all the shocks and springs are bent and broken.
Now that’s funny right there.
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Do you think he knows he posted in this thread in 2013.. One of his 3 total onsite?
IDK lol... I do know I wasted my time reading the thread as if it was a current event... I got to page #2 and dozens of post before I caught on

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I have a 340PD that has only been shot enough so I know where it will hit w/my carry load, and I’m confident I can handle it accurately. For regular range practice (100 + rounds) I’ll use my Model 60 in the following drill: Using a standard paper plate @ three, five & seven yards empty the gun as fast as possible, combat reload and repeat. The objective is to keep all ten rounds on the plate.
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This really helps now to have the old pictures..maybe somebody should sticky these pics with warnings for the next generation of AirLite buyers..
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I have thousands of rounds through my Ti/scan pocket guns without a hiccup, and have no doubt they're much, much more durable than Airweights. I'm not sure you can wear one out through normal shooting. My understanding is that 110gr bullets are not long enough to seal the b/c gap in the instant that the cartridge is at max pressure, which allows plasma cutting of the cylinder face and forcing cone. Hot gasses at tremendous pressure. Just read the manual and do what S&W suggests. The guns will last forever.
Couldn't agree more. I have a number of Sc/Ti Smiths and as long as you rigorously comply with the factory recommendations, they're trouble free.

I'm very persnickety about the Ti coating so I only use nylon brushes to clean these.

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