Is it possible to have a 617 trigger to match a 686 or come close? My 617s are so much tighter/harder.

Tough job for a gunsmith?

I will be interested in responses, I am somewhat disappointed in my 617, the action, trigger pull...not on a par with my center fire Smiths. Have thought about sending it back for some work.

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Ed

You can get close. My 617-1 goes 7 1/2 lbs DA but it takes a lighter rebound than my centerfires to get it.

It is difficult to reduce the DA trigger on rimfires without experiencing ignition failures.

You can lighten them, you just can't get them as light as the centerfires. I use mine for Steel Challenge and Bowling Pins, it has to (and does) go bang everytime.

I am ok about not lightening it much, I would just like to smooth it out, it has some grit and 'catch' to it....some of my J frame snubs have fairly stiff pulls, but they are smooth. This is different.

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Ed

The insides are essentially the same, and can be smoothed and polished. But, as stated earlier, it is hard to lightened the .22's much without getting misfires. From all the .22's my students shoot through Rugers, the .22's today have more misfires than those of my youth. :-)

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Richard Gillespie
FBINA 102

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As already stated, rimfires are difficult to reduce without getting light strikes.You can get light strikes with any rimfire be it auto, revolver or whatever if the hammer spring is weakened

Back to the 617

I replaced the factory mainspring with a Wolff standard power mainspring(although standard, it's much better than factory) and a 13lb trigger return spring. The Wolff mainspring pack will come with 3 or 4 different rebound springs

My 617, after many rounds, has a trigger pull as good as any K or L frame centerfire revolver and near 100% reliable. Probably better than most box stock L frame centerfire

I use my 617 as a practice gun for ICORE and IPSC so it gets quite a work out. The 617 4" with JM grips makes a great practice gun if you compete with a 625JM


To answer your question
"Is it possible to have a 617 trigger to match a 686 or come close"?

Yes and probably better with 2 springs(mainspring and 13lb return spring) and a few rounds(maybe 5,000 or so)

Some of the less expensive bulk stuff does need a fairly heavy hammer fall to go bang with any reliabity. What ammo you're using has a definite effect on how light you can go.

I didn't know I'd find a trigger stop pin inside the rebound slide when I was swapping out the rebound spring! Who knew, and why was it not in anyone's videos?!? (Youtube's collection, or Miculek's video)

You're possibly using out-of-date materials for a source of information. This thread, for example, is over 4 years old.

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Why, I aughta.....

Used the search, and didn't find much, but I'm no Bill Gates when it comes to computers. So, is everyone's 617-6 have a trigger stop pin then?

Mine has one.

Thanks! I figured I missed something in the brochure.

Seems some do, some don't. The ones that are there are usually fit too short to be very worthwhile...

My wife bought a 617 to compliment her 625. The first time I shot it to sight it in for her the trigger stuck back on the second round. I pushed it forward and continued. When I got home I pulled the gun apart and was kind of surprised at the differences from the older models. The main thing is that it looks like the interior of the frame is cut out using EDM. it has a relatively smooth but porous looking surface that has considerable drag when you run your finger across it. I put some polishing compound on the frame and rebound slide and worked them a bit and it really improved things. A few weeks later I gave it to a gunsmith that belongs to our club and he made that new gun just as smooth and light as an old model 27. My wife is a happy camper now.