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07-22-2011, 04:59 AM
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Trigger Lighten for 642
Is it ok to have done? Does it affect its safety as a carry weapon? Reliability? Soft primer stikes? This is my first revolver. I always liked them and finally got one for myself. The wife now wants one as her carry weapon. But she wants a lighter trigger.
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See if you can get a set of snap-caps, and put 6-700 dry-fires
on it first. You may find that lightening may not be needed.
The 642 was my introduction to DAO, and was good to go after dry-firing.
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07-22-2011, 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TACC1
See if you can get a set of snap-caps, and put 6-700 dry-fires
on it first. You may find that lightening may not be needed.
The 642 was my introduction to DAO, and was good to go after dry-firing.
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I agree with TACC1 on this.
If you still think you want an action job done, get a good gunsmith. I ended up going through this same process and had an action job done on my 642 in which the springs were replaced and the gunsmith did some other stuff (I don't know the details). It was not a miracle cure for the action...642's are notorious for having a hard pull, but it is better than it was. Good luck with your 642...one of the best carry guns ever. B
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07-22-2011, 07:25 AM
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I never have but was told by quite a few people that Nelson Ford does a great job.
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07-22-2011, 08:34 AM
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Trigger job on 642-1
Given the number of MIM parts, my suggestion, unless your's is just plain awful, is to get and install either the ISMI replacement hammer and rebound springs (available from ISMI or Brownells), or possibly the kit from Apex tactical J-frame spring kit (available from Dillon). Once installed and properly lubed, test it with your carry ammo, which should be factory.
I have done dozens of guns this way, with no mis-fires and much smoother and lighter triggers.
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07-22-2011, 12:14 PM
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I lubed and dry fired my 442. After a few thousand times it has become just fine. Maybe my finger just got stronger. Now I'm not sure.
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07-22-2011, 12:34 PM
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I have no problem doing an action job on a designated "target gun" but I agree with the other posters that you should just shoot the **** out of it and it will most likely smooth out to your satisfaction without going any further. I always get grins from my friends who shoot my target guns because they are so smooth & light, but my carry guns have retained the factory original springs. The only thing I do to a new carry gun when I get it is take it apart, GENTLY remove any burrs, clean & lubricate and then shoot the hell out of it. I do practice with my carry guns, so they are more than smooth enough for me, and 100% reliable.
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Is it necessary to post this same topic in more than (1) forum at the same time?
Have fun and be safe.
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Reliability is the #1 thing in a carry gun, IMO. J-frames are notoriously sensitive to spring modifications, and for that reason I would stick to nothing more than action smoothing, done by someone who knows what they are doing. But as already mentioned, often dryfiring will improve things significantly to the point where any further work will not be needed.
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I'm on my third 637 because of the terrible triggers. I just installed the Apex J-frame kit and this one is now a keeper. No lite strikes at the range with Speer gold dot, Hornady CD or Winchester white box.
Accuracy is vastly improved. I carry it everyday with confidence.
P.S. I did do the 1000 dry fire with snap caps and do recommend that and then decide if you want a lighter trigger.
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I just installed the Apex J-frame kit and this one is now a keeper. No lite strikes at the range with Speer gold dot, Hornady CD or Winchester white box.
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Yep, the Apex kit is for duty guns and reliability with a lighter trigger pull.
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I bought a new 442 recently and did the following...
1. Dry fire 1000 times.
2. Open the gun up, clean and lube.
3. Installed the Apex spring kit.
Results: A very easy to operate trigger. In fact, too easy for me. I don't like a "mushy" rebound on the trigger. I removed the Apex rebound spring and re-installed the factory one. I left the Apex main spring, firing pin and firing pin spring in the gun. Haven't had a chance to check it for reliable ignition yet but the trigger is much more to my liking (comparable to my other 642's that have had trigger jobs done).
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07-22-2011, 02:34 PM
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I had the action done on one at Gemmini Customs and it was great, it felt just like the Sig Arms 226 DAK. You could hardley tell the stack.
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Two days ago I put an Apex kit in my 442. The change was drastic. I also stoned the rebound slide and together with the spring kit the gun is now very smooth and the trigger pull is lighter.
I have not yet shot it, but from other reviews I have read it should not have any ignition problems.
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Thank you for your concern...
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Thank you to all who provided valuable info.
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Maybe because he's new to the forum and wasn't familiar enough with the forum to ask in the "right" place the first time? I suspect we all started out that way. Normal learning process.
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