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Cylinder drag ring
I have this model 36 no dash that is otherwise pristine, except for the cylinder drag ring. I contacted Smith & Wesson customer service to see about a reblue on the cylinder.
Whereas, it's a 1967 vintage gun, they said they are unable to match the re-bluing of the cylinder to the fame. I just want a clean gun for myself - won't be selling it.
Anyone know a company who can match the old bluing process?
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10-13-2014, 01:51 AM
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Drag ring is normal, unless it's a trench. Learn to love it. Most have it from the factory. Very rare to not have one. Turnbul is the best restorer out there. He can match the blue.
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If the drag line bothers you, and you don't intend to sell or shoot the gun, then a re-blue might work. But if you intend to shoot it at all, a new drag mark will again form in short order. It is just the nature of how a DA S&W action works. Google Fords refinishing - they are well known for their quality work in matching finishes, as is Doug Turnbull up in NY.
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Thanks guys. Guess I'll live with it and love it.
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You can use a cold blue on the ring to make it look better. Use Brownells Oxpho bluing. Clean the cylinder with acetone and use a blow dryer to heat it up to where it is warm to the touch. Use a Qtip to apply the bluing to the ring. After 1 minute wype dry and buff with 0000 steel wool. Apply as many coats to match. Afterwards use a good wax such as Renaissance wax.
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Don't think of it as a drag line. It's not.
S&W calls it a "stop track", meaning it's caused by the ball of the cylinder stop rubbing against the cylinder's surface, leaving a track in the finished surface.
Shoot & enjoy the vintage J-frame.
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I used to sweat things like this.
Not anymore. I just shoot them and enjoy them.
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Show me a Smith without a Drag-line and I'll show you a Smith that has NEVER been shot!
They usually have a discernible drag line right out of the box - just part of the design and there is nothing one can do about it. If it makes you feel better, Colts will also do the same (although slightly less noticeable).
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlay
You can use a cold blue on the ring to make it look better. Use Brownells Oxpho bluing. Clean the cylinder with acetone and use a blow dryer to heat it up to where it is warm to the touch. Use a Qtip to apply the bluing to the ring. After 1 minute wype dry and buff with 0000 steel wool. Apply as many coats to match. Afterwards use a good wax such as Renaissance wax.
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+1 on the Oxpho Blue. I used it on one of mine and the line disappeared. I've used it to re-blue whole guns after glass bead blasting. It's all I use as far as cold blue goes.
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+1 on the Oxpho Blue. I used it on one of mine and the line disappeared. I've used it to re-blue whole guns after glass bead blasting. It's all I use as far as cold blue goes.
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Quite temporary at best and will wear off the first time you shoot the gun. Any smith owner knows your revolver WILL have a turn line and most of us don't even see them anymore. It is what it is!
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Cylinder drag ring? I'm assuming your talking about the drag from one cylinder stop notch to the next. That's a good thing. You can read a lot from that "ring" or drag mark.( it would take to long to explain it in here) But it tells you that your cylinder stop is doing its job.
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Show me a Smith without a Drag-line and I'll show you a Smith that has NEVER been shot!
They usually have a discernible drag line right out of the box - just part of the design and there is nothing one can do about it. If it makes you feel better, Colts will also do the same (although slightly less noticeable).
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Not only has it never been fired, but it's probably not fitted correctly. During the fitting and tuning, the cylinder is turned probably a thousand times in order to make sure the cylinder carries up and locks up and the hammer doesn't push off.
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I have this model 36 no dash that is otherwise pristine, except for the cylinder drag ring. I contacted Smith & Wesson customer service to see about a reblue on the cylinder.
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Why bother? The line will just come right back. Unless you plan on never turning the cylinder again.
Cylinder turn lines are in every revolver's DNA.
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Cylinder drag ring
If you like revolvers, you like drag lines period. It's not a negative, shoot it and enjoy it.
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I have a 642-1 I bought yesterday. I have not yet shot it (probably will Monday). Just looked at it. No drag lines. Should I be concerned?
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I have a 642-1 I bought yesterday. I have not yet shot it (probably will Monday). Just looked at it. No drag lines. Should I be concerned?
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They can be a little harder to see on stainless revolvers, but they're there.
If the 642 operates correctly during dry fire, you should have nothing to worry about.
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I have snap caps and during dry fire it operates correctly. Thanks.
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Drag ring is normal, unless it's a trench. Learn to love it. Most have it from the factory. Very rare to not have one. Turnbul is the best restorer out there. He can match the blue.
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I went to the Gun shop to see my new model 25 (Classic) I cant pick it up till I get a purchase permit , but it had a drag ring on it from the factory My Ruger GP 100 stainless doesn't show one after thousands of rounds through it, its 25 years old
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I went to the Gun shop to see my new model 25...it had a drag ring on it from the factory My Ruger GP 100 stainless doesn't show one after thousands of rounds through it, its 25 years old
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So, you just "discovered" a S&W is (fortunately) not just like a Ruger?
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Here we go again. The last word on "drag lines," from D. B. Wesson himself.
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