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After being frustrated with fragile "pickle forks" and lost parts I tried the "Smithmaster". This is far and away the best tool available for removing and reinstalling rebound springs in Smith and Wesson revolvers...
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This discussion should probably be over in the Gunsmith Forurm, but pressing on... I've used commercially made tools from a couple of distributors, a custom-made one by revolversmith Fred Schmidt, and a #0 Phillips head Craftsman screw driver to deal with removing and replacing the rebound spring, but truth to tell (although I probably have more thumbs and fewer fingers than I should ) I've never noticed any particular need for any specific or special tool to do this task.

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Welcome to the Forum. I own and enjoy the Smithmaster tool you refer to. I've tried using small screwdrivers, off-set spring removers, etc., and none worked as good for me as the Smithmaster tool. Jerry Miculek simply uses a Bic pen as a recoil spring remover.

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Old 08-21-2015, 12:04 PM
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I've been using one for several years, and it is easier to use than any of the others.
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Ball point pen ( non-retractable kind). It is what Jerry Miculek uses in his videos. So I tried it and have used it several times. Works like a charm
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Here's a really fancy $4.99 Craftsman 1/8" blade "multitool", Part #41589 that has served for the last 20+ years. Overall length is 6".
How someone can afford to spend $30.00 or more on a special tool to do this is beyond me.....I don't get it. (I'm a cheapskate)

A.K.A. "screwdriver", "sight adj. tool"

It has a tip that fits the S&W screws perfectly, and also fits inside the rear coil of the rebound spring just enough to press it into the reb. slide without failure or damage. Added heat-shrink tubing protects metal parts from the screwdriver shaft......and, last but not least, the handle functions perfectly as a "non-marring" impact tool to vibrate the sideplate off.
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When I attended the S&W Law Enforcement Armorer's School in 1988, we built 3 revolvers in a week. Like many students there, I showed up with the tool sold by Brownells. They taught using just a regular screwdriver. Upon seeing many of us with the tool, the instructor asked if we got the waxed paper with the tool. Why ? To keep our candy-asses from sticking to the chair.
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Jerry Miculek I ain't. I like this tool because it's fast and unlikely to damage the spring. It's not the only way, but'll be my tool of choice for this job...
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Ball point pen ( non-retractable kind). It is what Jerry Miculek uses in his videos. So I tried it and have used it several times. Works like a charm
Uhhh, i bet jerry uses 2# springs from a bic pen though. I use a dremeled out screwdriver but that looks like a nifty tool

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Same here. Turned a wrestling match into an uneventful step in the disassembly / assembly process. Also as noted, the much reduced chance of damage to the spring or associated parts. The small cost, for a lifetime of use, was worth every cent to me.
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I'm sure thus will bring some criticism, but I don't have a lick of trouble using a screwdriver.
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The Wheeler Engineering screwdriver set contains an offset tool resembling an SMLE firing pin tool that works better than anything else I've ever used. Definitely better than a notched screwdriver.

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I'm sure thus will bring some criticism, but I don't have a lick of trouble using a screwdriver.
Same tool I've used since 1972 without a problem.
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:29 AM
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At this point in my S&W life it is the price of the tool (especially when I add the outrageous shipping price Larry Potter charges) that stops me from immediately ordering the tool. I have already learned usable workarounds and how to make my own homemade version.

If I was taking my first steps in setting up for revolver maintenance it might seem a reasonable purchase . By far my best outlay was for a full set of tools from Weaver.
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Shipping and handling was $5.50. Though I really didn't need it (I had been using an old drill chuck), I also bought the ViceSmith at the same time. Both work great for me.

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The best one there is is one you can make yourself in about 5 minutes from a screw-in hook and a short piece of 1/2" wood dowel. I have shown this several times before. I still use the same one I made in about 1970.



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If installing a Wolfe or other aftermarket spring, it really helps to grind the ends flat like the factory does.
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I bought this one from Dillon Precision, works fine.

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I think Dillon just copied my design.
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Gents, how does on get the hand spring up into place after putting the rebound assembly in???

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I use the rebound spring tool with two 90 degree angles to remove the rebound spring. When reassembling, I use a Phillips screw driver to depress the spring and slip the assembly back in place. I'm not handy enough to make my own tools.
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After being frustrated with fragile "pickle forks" and lost parts I tried the "Smithmaster". This is far and away the best tool available for removing and reinstalling rebound springs in Smith and Wesson revolvers...
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Gents, how does on get the hand spring up into place after putting the rebound assembly in???

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You don't put the hand back in place after.

If you have disassembled it completely, you put the hand in place at the same time you put the trigger assembly back in the frame. You get the trigger onto its pin, then pull the trigger a little and adjust the hand until you get the hand in place.

If the hand has come out from its spring tension, you put the hand just into the trigger, take a thin punch (or similar tool), and push the spring leg down under the bar on the hand, put the hand in place and release the spring, and it should be under tension again. Then put it in place when you put the trigger assembly back on.

Then you put the rebound slide assembly down and get the rebound spring behind the post, etc.

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Mount the hand to the trigger before replacing the trigger in the frame. I use a punch whose diameter is nearly the same as the width of the slot in the trigger. Use it to push on the lower leg of the hand spring and hold it above the pin on the hand until you've slid the hand into place. Now you can reinstall the trigger and proceed with the rebound slide.

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The rebound screw tool is a waste. A small flat blade screwdriver is all you need.
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Welcome to the Forum. I own and enjoy the Smithmaster tool you refer to. I've tried using small screwdrivers, off-set spring removers, etc., and none worked as good for me as the Smithmaster tool. Jerry Miculek simply uses a Bic pen as a recoil spring remover.

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Half of the reviews on the tool sold on Midway or Brownells are very unsatisfied. I went searching for an alternative to the small flat screwdriver and found this.
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My clumsy fingers don't work a simple screwdriver for this. Spring go BOING !
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I've hand made several different ones in my Shop and they wok well - but usually use the Brownell's black handled version 90% of the time.
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So please forgive me but it's clear to me here that none of you have been affected by Carpel-Tunnel and the problems it seems to cause. Back in the day my thumbs and fingers were not as sensitive to hot or cold and to excessive pressure needed to place your thumb over the slide to return it to the proper position. I have used the Brownells Rebound Spring tool with success but lately the "J" frames are tougher to reassemble so I'm, thinking that the featured tool may be better and worth a try so please forgive this Candy Tail as I place an order for a new Rebound Spring removal & replacement tool.
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Smitholdtimer:

I have arthritis in my hands and wrists, and it has pretty much robbed me of my manual dexterity and strength. I really like the Smith Master tool I referred to earlier:

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So please forgive me but it's clear to me here that none of you have been affected by Carpel-Tunnel and the problems it seems to cause. Back in the day my thumbs and fingers were not as sensitive to hot or cold and to excessive pressure needed to place your thumb over the slide to return it to the proper position. I have used the Brownells Rebound Spring tool with success but lately the "J" frames are tougher to reassemble so I'm, thinking that the featured tool may be better and worth a try so please forgive this Candy Tail as I place an order for a new Rebound Spring removal & replacement tool.
I have owned the Brownell tool for decades, but I've found it's not the best or easiest option. It works good for removing springs, but I've found the proper size Phillips screwdriver works better for putting the spring back into place. The tool woudstra posted looks like it would work well for you.
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I was just thinking the same thing, Muss... and I remember that they also showed us how to make a special "spanner" screwdriver for the nut on the rear sight. I seem to remember (been 40 years), that they even gave us the SATs to make the tools from. We sure didn't know back then that we were mutilating valuable future collector's items!!

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I was just thinking the same thing, Muss... and I remember that they also showed us how to make a special "spanner" screwdriver for the nut on the rear sight. I seem to remember (been 40 years), that they even gave us the SATs to make the tools from. We sure didn't know back then that we were mutilating valuable future collector's items!!

I still have mine.

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I think I'm going to get that Smithmaster tool.

I plan on using Mpro 7 cleaner and Mpro 7 oil to clean the outside of the gun. As I need low odor. Can that same stuff be used to clean the inside of the gun under the plate? Or does other cleaners and oils need to be used there?
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