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06-11-2016, 09:44 AM
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I wish to use a standard grade Smith 1911 for Bullseye competition but would like to know, from you pistolsmiths, if the features we shooters typically get hard-fitted with oversized parts (barrel, link and pin, bushing, trigger) are common with the basic MilSpec 1911. In other words would my smith accurize the Smith 1911 in identical fashion?
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06-11-2016, 09:56 AM
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Generally all basic stuff among 1911s is interchangeable but may require hand fitting
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06-16-2016, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Longfellow
I wish to use a standard grade Smith 1911 for Bullseye competition but would like to know, from you pistolsmiths, if the features we shooters typically get hard-fitted with oversized parts (barrel, link and pin, bushing, trigger) are common with the basic MilSpec 1911. In other words would my smith accurize the Smith 1911 in identical fashion?
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At least in the beginning, I would wager your Smith 1911 will shoot way more accurate than most shooters can ever achieve. So before spending money to customize it, I'd shoot a few thousand rounds through it, get comfortable with it, then make a decision what if anything need get done. Most after-market parts will need a bit of tweaking to get an optimal fit.
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06-16-2016, 11:04 AM
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Get and read Jerry Kunhausen's book on the 1911. The tolerances in a stock 1911 are make loose enough for 100% reliable functioning under dirt, dust, mud, etc. conditions. Match guns tighten up those tolerances to a very tight point, so much that it takes about 500 rounds to break in a match gun. I have seen a custom smith "reshape" the rails in the frame & slide to the point where a lapping compound is coated on the rails and the slide driven on and off the frame until it just will smoothly slide with some force.
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06-16-2016, 08:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfellow
I wish to use a standard grade Smith 1911 for Bullseye competition but would like to know, from you pistolsmiths, if the features we shooters typically get hard-fitted with oversized parts (barrel, link and pin, bushing, trigger) are common with the basic MilSpec 1911. In other words would my smith accurize the Smith 1911 in identical fashion?
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You are confusing apples with oranges. A mass made gun like a "standard grade" Smith can't be fitted with the parts it has. Rather than buy a mass gun and throw away most of the parts, consider buying an actuall fitted 1911 like STI, SVI, Wilson etc in the first place. Bottom line there is a specific way a 1911 is built to be fitted, Kuhnhausen spells it out. Mass made guns have the parts "toleranced" so they can all be thrown together by monkeys without fitting. A fittied 1911 has the frame trued to specific sizing on key points like the rails. The slide is fitted to the frame and the barrel is fitted to both. A properly fitted 1911 in lockup is a "zero clearance" fit where the lower rear barrel lugs rest on the cross pin and the top lug just touches the slide. The front is also just snug. Point is, if it's a fitted gun you want, smart money is to buy one that was built that way. Otherwise you are sewing pieces onto Rosie Odonnel tryng to end up with Angelina Jolie.
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