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Help for a model 27(no-dash)
I have recently come into the possession of an S prefix model 27 made dating to around 1959. Overall it's in good condition with not many scratches and 97% of the bluing intact.
It does have a problem...
The stem on the extractor star is bent. Judging by the pliers marking on the end of the ejector rod, I would guess that BUBBA got his pliers on it...missing the fact that it was a RH thread and damaged ensued...
It functions fine until you tighten the ejector rod...then it binds up on a couple of cylinders.
I've looked high and low for an extractor star with RH threads but to no avail. (Anyone have a spare laying around?
I'm thinking that this may be a job for the mother-ship, S&W.
Your thoughts would be welcomed.
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10-27-2016, 08:43 AM
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10-27-2016, 11:01 AM
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I would be surprised if S&W were of any help here. Jack First is another possible source, as well as WTB in the classifieds.
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10-27-2016, 11:17 AM
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Great gun. Definitely find a gunsmith capable of working on vintage Smiths.
Here is the one I use. Very high quality work. No damage to the finish of my gun and correct parts will be used. Call and speak with them about your problem.
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10-27-2016, 12:26 PM
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Call Nelson Ford, The Gunsmith in Phoenix, AZ and discuss your problem. He can fix it for sure! Gary
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10-27-2016, 02:51 PM
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I can't say for certain that S&W can't help you but they probably can't. They just don't carry parts for guns that are 56 yrs. old, unless modern parts can be used for the fix.
It can't hurt to call them. Good luck!
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10-29-2016, 09:21 AM
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Thanks to all for the replies. I came across another cylinder assembly that I'm going to try. It has LH threads but I can live with that. If all the numbers check out..great...if not, off to one of the revolver smiths mentioned above.
Thanks again!
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Bubba marks not withstanding, are you sure the original rod can't be straightened?
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Actually, that ejector rod doesn't look too bad. It is probably just bent a little. Maybe the end is bent in enough on the mouth to rub on the pin and bind. Most of the time, the rod can be straightened, even though the end may not look too good. It can be smoothed and some cold blue applied to make it look better too. Or the rod can be replaced if you can find one.
For a new cylinder assembly, there may be a lot of hand fitting involved to get it working right. Fixing or replacing the ejector rod is the way to go.
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10-29-2016, 11:07 PM
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Help for a model 27(no-dash)
The ejector rod isn't the real issue. It's the stem on the extractor star that is bent. I replaced the rod with one that l know to be straight...it was after that when I noticed the problem with the star.
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Quote:
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The ejector rod isn't the real issue. It's the stem on the extractor star that is bent. I replaced the rod with one that l know to be straight...it was after that when I noticed the problem with the star.
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That is a whole different problem, I don't have a clue how to deal with. Fitting a new extractor can be a real pain. I tried to replace an extractor on a 27 once, no go. Took it to a very good smith who couldn't get it to work either. You might talk to Cylinder and Slide, or to Sand Creek guy in Indiana.
Very sad to see this issue with a good ole Smith.
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Straightening an Ejector Rod is not that hard. It has to be removed and GENTLY hammered straight - checking after every hit on a flat surface. Larry Potterfield (Midway) has a video on this. REMEMBER to insert empty cartridges when unscrewing he ER from the Cylinder.
Removing the plier marks may not be as easy depending on just how deep they are. You can use progressively finer Emery Cloth to polish them out and then it will have to be re-blued. If the marks are very deep, just order a new ER and be done with it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chief38
Straightening an Ejector Rod is not that hard. It has to be removed and GENTLY hammered straight - checking after every hit on a flat surface. Larry Potterfield (Midway) has a video on this. REMEMBER to insert empty cartridges when unscrewing he ER from the Cylinder.
Removing the plier marks may not be as easy depending on just how deep they are. You can use progressively finer Emery Cloth to polish them out and then it will have to be re-blued. If the marks are very deep, just order a new ER and be done with it.
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GREAT advice as usual, chief!
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