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Victory model
Recently acquired a well worn Victory model. Took it apart, cleaned it, reassembled, and was working fine.
The next time I got it out, the cylinder will not rotate on single or double action. I took the sideplate off, everything looks good,put it back on and nothing. hammer works good but no cylinder rotation.
Went thru this process a few times....looks like the hand is not engaging.
I tried a couple of adjustments, but no luck.
Any ideas?
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04-24-2017, 02:49 PM
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Sounds like the hand spring is not engaged . . .
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Sounds like the hand spring is not engaged . . .
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I agree....how do I fix it?
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04-24-2017, 02:57 PM
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I agree....how do I fix it?
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Put it back where it was before you took it apart . . .
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04-24-2017, 03:19 PM
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Put it back where it was before you took it apart . . .
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If only I knew where that was.... I was very careful taking the gun apart and don't recall any spring attached to the hand. and I had no parts left over.
How does the spring/hand attach?
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04-25-2017, 12:52 PM
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click below and look at the pics:
S&W hand spring attachment - Google Search
The spring is tiny and could have gotten loose. The
pictures will steer you in the right direction
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I had a similar problem with one and it turned out to be a small pin that is made onto the side of the hand was gone I broke it off while cleaning it, they are fragile on a gun that old but without it it will not engage the cylinder spurs.
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05-05-2017, 02:55 PM
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Thanks SERGER and FREDDY137 for the helpful info. Got the gun going just fine. Wisdom may come thru fear....but good info seems easier
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Glad you got it going - that hand will pull right out and leave the spring behind. If you didn't notice it before you pulled the hand, it would be pretty easy to put the hand back on without engaging the spring on the post.
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Normally there is no reason to remove the hand from the trigger when disassembling. It seems to take three hands to get it back on right so I leave it alone.
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Normally there is no reason to remove the hand from the trigger when disassembling. It seems to take three hands to get it back on right so I leave it alone.
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This is true and is the protocol I will normally follow, unless I am doing some trigger work on the gun. Then I find that the best way to get the spring back where it belongs is to get the studs started in their holes and then reach for the spring with the hammer block (may not be present on the Victory or on a second hand gun as they are often removed for some reason).
So I take the hammer block and catch the leg of the spring with it and pull it past the spot where I am holding the hand out with just enough room for the spring to pass. Once the leg is past the hand stud, I will push the hand the rest of the way in and let go of the spring leg.
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I don't know who said that, but it's wrong, IMHO. I've seen some pretty strong minds whip out sarcastic remarks. Winston Churchill being one, Mark Twain another.
Swearing on the other hand fits that description very well, as proven by my weak mind.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by catadjuster
This is true and is the protocol I will normally follow, unless I am doing some trigger work on the gun. Then I find that the best way to get the spring back where it belongs is to get the studs started in their holes and then reach for the spring with the hammer block (may not be present on the Victory or on a second hand gun as they are often removed for some reason).
So I take the hammer block and catch the leg of the spring with it and pull it past the spot where I am holding the hand out with just enough room for the spring to pass. Once the leg is past the hand stud, I will push the hand the rest of the way in and let go of the spring leg.
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I have used that method for about 40 years. Works great.
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