Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > S&W-Smithing

Notices

S&W-Smithing Maintenance, Repair, and Enhancement of Smith & Wesson and Other Firearms.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-09-2018, 08:26 PM
willy willy is offline
Member
1917 cylinder swap?  
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: ohio usa
Posts: 503
Likes: 131
Liked 117 Times in 71 Posts
Default 1917 cylinder swap?

Will a 25-5 cylinder swap with a S&W1917 cylinder?..
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-09-2018, 08:38 PM
murphydog's Avatar
murphydog murphydog is offline
Moderator
1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap?  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 26,858
Likes: 969
Liked 18,973 Times in 9,284 Posts
Default

According to the standard reference book the 1917 cylinder is 1.55" and the model 25 1.53". Don't know if this is significant or if there are other differences between a pre- and post-war cylinder that affect the fit.
__________________
Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-09-2018, 08:41 PM
cgt4570's Avatar
cgt4570 cgt4570 is offline
SWCA Member
1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap?  
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mount Carmel, TN USA
Posts: 3,171
Likes: 1,626
Liked 3,178 Times in 933 Posts
Default

Yes. There may be significant gunsmithing involved to set barrel-cylinder gap, headspace and timing, ejector rod length, etc. I fitted a 625 non-fluted and a 625-10PC cylinder to 1917 and 1937 project frames respectively. Also, the original ejector rod won't fit in the newer cylinders. Opposite threads. If you have the time and skill, it can all be done (carefully) with hand tools.
__________________
Chris
SWCA #2243 SWHF #292
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-10-2018, 08:14 AM
WR Moore WR Moore is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,626
Likes: 1,812
Liked 5,380 Times in 2,710 Posts
Default

One thing not mentioned above is to make sure that the newer cylinder actually bottoms on the yoke barrel to establish headspace/ end play. There may not be much, if any difference, but you need to check to be sure. The later N frames are similar to the older ones, but not identical, even if they still have the locking bolt on the barrel.

I once ran into a 28 converted to .45 where a famous gunsmith shop didn't check this and the cylinder was using the gas ring to locate the cylinder fore and aft. The gas ring was never designed for that (George Nonte's mistake in at least one of his books.). I had to make a spacer to take up the difference between yoke barrel and cylinder. IIRC, the difference was almost 1/16".

Last edited by WR Moore; 04-10-2018 at 08:18 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-10-2018, 09:56 AM
41 fan 41 fan is offline
Member
1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap?  
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Loganville, Ga.
Posts: 354
Likes: 171
Liked 133 Times in 75 Posts
Default

One of my 1917's measures 1.53. One of my 25-9's measures 1.67. Dean
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-11-2018, 08:15 AM
steelslaver's Avatar
steelslaver steelslaver is offline
US Veteran
1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap? 1917 cylinder swap?  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 13,688
Likes: 12,836
Liked 39,353 Times in 10,021 Posts
Default

All the 4 coolt cylinderrs except the 25-3 are about .10 inch longer than the acp cylinders, plus about .035 on the rear for the moon clips, so if refitted frame lug must be modified also so rear of cylinder with not hit when opened
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cylinder swap deadin S&W-Smithing 2 08-04-2016 12:59 PM
Cylinder Swap? RWJ S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 6 09-20-2014 02:29 PM
My 360 is at S&W for cylinder swap Gary7 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 10 10-16-2010 05:20 PM
1917/2nd Model Hand Ejector hammer swap? Timber Wolf S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 2 07-13-2010 01:42 PM
617 cylinder swap McPita S&W-Smithing 16 02-09-2010 03:31 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:48 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)