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Everything from Palmgren I've ever seen has been overpriced junk.
I have bought a lot of tools from Shars and been happy with all of it. The Shars vise is a more solid design and better built than the Palmgren one anyway.
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I use a machinist drill press vise it's got more adjustments and lining up for drilling or cutting is just a lot easer.
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I have a Starrett Drill Press vise (# 913 1/2) that I bought about 25 years ago. Along the way I modified it by installing a set of home made parallels that are attached with two counter-sunk machine screws so they are semi-permanently affixed. Should I want or need to remove them all I need to do is to remove a few screws and it's back to Factory Spec. This very heavy cast iron DP Vise has really served me well and although I do not know if it is still made my Starrett - I'd bet they are available on eBay if you were interested. They were available in different sizes, but this one suited my needs well.

I also have a cheap "junker" that someone gave me years ago - that I loan out from time to time or use outside or as just another way to hold something.

Palmgren has always been a respectable name in DP vises and although I've never owned one I know people who do and they seem happy.

BTW I find the heavier the vise the more stable it is. The cheap junker I have is very light weight and is not even in the same ball park as the heavy Starrett.
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IMHO, the 'Shars' is the best and the cheapest. IF your need for precision is at a higher level....haunt ebay and other places like that until you find a Starrett. Way back when....I hesitated at the buy-in price for a Starrett so bought a large Taiwan made vice. I wound up putting in so many hours rebuilding all moving aspects of that vice that I should have paid the Starrett price and only cried once.
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Happy with the Shars vise on my mill. Hope you’re not planning to use a drill press for a mill. Very hard to get satisfactory results.
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IMHO, the 'Shars' is the best and the cheapest. IF your need for precision is at a higher level....haunt ebay and other places like that until you find a Starrett. Way back when....I hesitated at the buy-in price for a Starrett so bought a large Taiwan made vice. I wound up putting in so many hours rebuilding all moving aspects of that vice that I should have paid the Starrett price and only cried once.
Hmmm, I honestly can't remember what I paid for my Starrett 25 years ago but as you say - "they ain't cheap". What ever I did pay I certainly got my money's worth since I use it every week at least once or twice - many times more if I'm working on a project. What I do like about the Starrett (both then & now) is it is one of the heaviest DP vises out there and so so stable. I also love the quick rotating beefy handle which to me allows quick adjustments and really tight gripping strength.

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I believe the NEW Palmgren vises are made in China - and so don't expect the same quality as the older USA made ones. If you are serious about quality you might want to hunt down a vintage model made here. Unless someone has drilled holes in it or ground it up badly, there's not much to go wrong with one if it was not abused.

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You might try looking at milling machine vises.
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You might check out littlemachineshop.com. They sell several flavors of vises. They are all Chinese but for the money they are not bad at all.
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I contacted Shars about another item and was told that they hope to be shipping about the first of June.
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I think Shars is closed at the moment. Saw somewhere that they may reopen in a week or so.
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