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Anyone familiar with either of these vises?
Spec on the Palmgren is .002" jaw deflection.
None listed on the Shars.
Different mountings.

Want to replace the generic 4" that is used as necessary on the old Marlin 1:1 carving machine table.
My good one was lifted with some electronics tools while working on a boat not long ago.
My favorite soldering gun which was no longer made... 25 Watts to really hot, depending on tips.
Captain said the boat was safe and did pay for the loss.

Making aluminum risers for the Marlin, will finally install the reverse carving attachments sitting around since the late '70s and machine two indexing wheels for rifle stock work as well.
Gotta love big chucks of aluminum.

Have not found anything better yet.
Fishing in the Bay ain't productive today.
Palmgren is about $120 to the door.

Standard Drill Press Vises - 6 Drill press vise

6" Precision Drill Press Vise

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Everything from Palmgren I've ever seen has been overpriced junk.
I have bought a lot of tools from Shars and been happy with all of it. The Shars vise is a more solid design and better built than the Palmgren one anyway.
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I use a machinist drill press vise it's got more adjustments and lining up for drilling or cutting is just a lot easer.
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I have a Starrett Drill Press vise (# 913 1/2) that I bought about 25 years ago. Along the way I modified it by installing a set of home made parallels that are attached with two counter-sunk machine screws so they are semi-permanently affixed. Should I want or need to remove them all I need to do is to remove a few screws and it's back to Factory Spec. This very heavy cast iron DP Vise has really served me well and although I do not know if it is still made my Starrett - I'd bet they are available on eBay if you were interested. They were available in different sizes, but this one suited my needs well.

I also have a cheap "junker" that someone gave me years ago - that I loan out from time to time or use outside or as just another way to hold something.

Palmgren has always been a respectable name in DP vises and although I've never owned one I know people who do and they seem happy.

BTW I find the heavier the vise the more stable it is. The cheap junker I have is very light weight and is not even in the same ball park as the heavy Starrett.
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IMHO, the 'Shars' is the best and the cheapest. IF your need for precision is at a higher level....haunt ebay and other places like that until you find a Starrett. Way back when....I hesitated at the buy-in price for a Starrett so bought a large Taiwan made vice. I wound up putting in so many hours rebuilding all moving aspects of that vice that I should have paid the Starrett price and only cried once.
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Happy with the Shars vise on my mill. Hope you’re not planning to use a drill press for a mill. Very hard to get satisfactory results.
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IMHO, the 'Shars' is the best and the cheapest. IF your need for precision is at a higher level....haunt ebay and other places like that until you find a Starrett. Way back when....I hesitated at the buy-in price for a Starrett so bought a large Taiwan made vice. I wound up putting in so many hours rebuilding all moving aspects of that vice that I should have paid the Starrett price and only cried once.
Hmmm, I honestly can't remember what I paid for my Starrett 25 years ago but as you say - "they ain't cheap". What ever I did pay I certainly got my money's worth since I use it every week at least once or twice - many times more if I'm working on a project. What I do like about the Starrett (both then & now) is it is one of the heaviest DP vises out there and so so stable. I also love the quick rotating beefy handle which to me allows quick adjustments and really tight gripping strength.

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I believe the NEW Palmgren vises are made in China - and so don't expect the same quality as the older USA made ones. If you are serious about quality you might want to hunt down a vintage model made here. Unless someone has drilled holes in it or ground it up badly, there's not much to go wrong with one if it was not abused.

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You might try looking at milling machine vises.
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You might check out littlemachineshop.com. They sell several flavors of vises. They are all Chinese but for the money they are not bad at all.
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Thanks to all.
The pic shows how I use my drill press vise.
Just for perimeter grip work on the Marlin router carving machine.
Wood is mounted on template etc, then in the micarta holders and clamped in the vise.
Some of the new stuff is wider and the 6" vise will be needed.

Lotsa hours in assembling/joinery of the wood so precision and no mistakes is prudent as the laminations alone are costly in time and $$$.

The new American flag stocks, which as always, will only be made for the 1911, and the the Union Jack which will debut on a Walther, make this enjoyable work.
Making the 13 stripes even over the wedge shape of the 1911 is something that is finally realized at a sane price.
I told Pachmayr that was my goal, in the incubative years, as we discussed doing colors in his rubber stocks and how much money he'd have to spend. Funny conversation decades ago.

The big Delta drill press has an old Mastercraft XY table when necessary.
I mill on my mill because if asked how high a drill press can jump off the floor when milling..... I can answer that question!

My boy asked me to make a set of M59 Swiss flag grips for a ski buddy of his and they would send me something from Rolex.
Funny kids.

Shars sent me a 10% off link but when I went to order they're not shipping now. ???

Cross training off active duty Military/Mercs to learn to outfit boats was fun as this will be as well.
Once trained they can work at home manual and CNC.
Ya can't run thru the bush forever was the conversation with some Canadians as Angola was winding down.
An interesting business paradigm.
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I contacted Shars about another item and was told that they hope to be shipping about the first of June.
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I'll order the 6" shortly.
Thanks.

I have a nice machinist's vise on my mill, was made by a machinist when he first started and was glad to see it get a good home.
The Taig is small but stout and was recommended by a clarinetist, symphonic level player, as it does all his chores well.
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Is there a magic trick to paying/checking out on the Shars website.
Setup an account
Ordered item
Can't find a way to conclude the transaction.

I'm on an iPhone

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I think Shars is closed at the moment. Saw somewhere that they may reopen in a week or so.
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They emailed that there was no shipping but customer service was still available. Will call them on Tuesday and try to order on the PC later.
Just going to order the Shars 4" at 13lbs and machine some wider jaws as necessary.

Need to load some 460 255gr HCs and some XTPs down to 44 Mag velocities and test the new 8.375" as the only range open has limitations.
Then compare the Glock 36 to my S&Walther PPKs offhand as the G36 is carried now.
Might as well bring the old Gold Cup with the stocks I just made.
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Update:
Decided to get the 3"x5" Precision Toolmakers Vise.
# 202-1212.
Weight 12 lbs.
They advised that it will be shipped and arrive around 6/5/20.
They expect to be operational next week.

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