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where to go for action job on model 19? S&W PC?
I have a much older (to me) 19-3 2.5 inch that is just amazing in DA. I think the original owner (I have only had it the last 25 years) must have done an action job plus I've shot it a lot. I recently got a 19-3, 4 inch in nickel (wow). but it needs some love on the DA pull. I also may want to smooth out the serrated trigger, its more narrow than my other target trigger and cuts into the finger after a while.
Should I go through Smith and Wesson PC for this work?
Can someone recommend a quality gunsmith (I am in western North Carolina, but I can ship if needed. This will be a forever piece for me, so I want to have quality work done.
All help appreciated
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12-17-2021, 02:21 AM
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There are many good gunsmiths throughout the country. The only shop I have use in the past is Clark Custom. I have a Ruger Mark II done by them and its amazingly accurate. They do quality work at a fair price IMO. I'm sure you will get many names shortly. Good luck and safe shooting.
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I just got back my 66-1 from S&W PC where I sent it in for an action job and refinish. It took them 9 months from when I sent it to them to return it to me. If you can wait that long, I'd go S&W. Yes, there are a lot of talented 'smiths out there, but those specializing in S&W revolvers are backed up too.
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Contact Andy Horvath. He is an old school gunsmith who knows how to do it correctly.
I have been through the S&W Armorers school and know my way around a S&W revolver. I WISH my action work was like his! I treated myself to one of his actions and am now trying to upgrade my skills.
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Look into the Wolff Powerib Mainspring. Maybe a rebound spring too. Take the side plate off and hose it down with cleaner and re-lube lightly. Will take you 20-30 minutes. Give it a try!
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Look into the Wolff Powerib Mainspring. Maybe a rebound spring too. Take the side plate off and hose it down with cleaner and re-lube lightly. Will take you 20-30 minutes. Give it a try!
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And as long as we're talking about springs, my father-in-law's M&P was bought new in 1920, carried daily in the hip pocket of his overalls for 60+ years, and somewhere along the way was treated to a rebound slide spring replacement by Bubba. The spring seems to have been selected on the basis of the fact it fit in the hole, and resulted in a DA trigger pull of 22 pounds.
Now I'm not much on hosing things down with cleaners from spray cans, so I removed the sideplate and everything inside it, put it to soak in Mineral Spirits, and made everything squeaky clean. I'd heard about these "Spring Kits", so I got one of those from Jerry Miculek (BANG, INC.).---2 springs and a set of instructions for maybe $20. (I've been messing with these things for about 60 years, so I didn't bother with the instructions on how to install a rebound slide spring and a mainspring-------and nothing would move when I finished.) There's an old saying about reading the instructions when all else fails, so I gave that a try.
The bottom line of all this is you can send your gun off to a big name gunsmith, and it'll come back slicker than greased Owl do-do with some shiny pieces that didn't use to be shiny, and it will only cost you somewhere between $100-$300. As an alternative you can spend that $20 I noted up above, READ and follow the instructions like I finally did, and end up with a gun that's slicker than greased Owl do-do (but without any shiny pieces).
There's some measuring and cutting involved, and Miculek recommends you don't go any lower than 7 pounds on the DA trigger pull, lest some primers won't pop, so 7 pounds it is, and everything works----slicker than greased Owl do-do----and goes bang-bang-bang any and every time you want it to do so.
I'm all for sending stuff off to an expert for repairs, or making stuff you can't buy, but the installation of a Spring Kit----even Miculek's, is brain-dead simple.
Ralph Tremaine
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If you'd like I can slick it up for ya. Contact thru PM or [email protected] or HS-Custom, LLC - Gunsmith - Joplin, Missouri
Thank you
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Look into the Wolff Powerib Mainspring. Maybe a rebound spring too. Take the side plate off and hose it down with cleaner and re-lube lightly. Will take you 20-30 minutes. Give it a try!
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I agree with jjmIII on the Wolff springs. I'm in Hawaii and the last good revolver smith retired soon after HPD went to 9mms 30 years ago. For me to ship my revolver to the mainland it will cost somewhere around $200-$250 round trip.
A friend has a S&W that was worked on by Frank Glenn in AZ and it is amazing! I would buy it in a heartbeat, but he ain't selling!
All that being said, I've been pleased with the results using the Wolff kits. The only caveat is that those springs will usually not set off anything harder than a Federal primer. My revolvers are mostly range toys, so that's not a problem for me.
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Now I'm not much on hosing things down with cleaners from spray cans
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I agree, but not everyone has the same talents. Don't want to get anyone in trouble.
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The only caveat is that those springs will usually not set off anything harder than a Federal primer.
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I suggest the "Type 1 - Factory Standard Power Rib mainspring" for carry, and it's still better. Also a 16 lb rebound spring (stock is 18).
Don't get crazy and you still get a better reliable trigger.
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Frank Glenn is your guy. I've hade several different shooters worked on by him.Great job,great turn-around&great communications.
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Another way to improve the trigger action on you revolver is to dry fire it. 1000 times is good, 5000 is better. Pick a blank wall and take a look at the sights. Start squeezing. If the sights move, stop, realign and continue squeezing!
This will smooth out the rough spots in the action AND strengthen you forearm. A strong forearm will improve your grip. You will also learn to isolate the muscles needed to squeeze the trigger. That alone will cause the sights to stop moving around.
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I'm A big fan of dry firing, it's a great tool to improve your shooting ability.
Yes, dry firing will smooth out a trigger but there is still nothing like a well done trigger job.
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Best advice I can give you: Go up to the Search function and type in:
Why send a Smith revolver to Karl Sokol? Highly recommended and lots
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My choice would be Clark Custom Guns , 336 Shootout Lane , Princeton , Louisiana 71037 ... (318) 949-9884-phone
Clark Custom Guns | Established 1950 | Princeton Louisiana
The trigger jobs they have done for me are magical ... thinking about shooting my Clark Custom tuned pistol just puts a smile on my face and a song in my heart ...it is so sweet shooting .
I don't know what Voo Doo magic they do on a pistol but it's worth every penny . A Target Trigger job and accuracy/ reliability tune up (they even tune up the magazines) made my S&W model 41 a truely amazing shooting machine . I give them 5 stars and a 10 rating .
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Hi, I just sent my 686+ to TK Custom for action work and other services. I've heard back from them 3 times so far which is a terrific sign to me that I'm in good hands. I have an older Model 19 that I got from an old friend and if they do a great job on my 686, I'll probably send my 19. This is my first time using TK Custom, but I've read good things. I'll post my experience overall, but so far so good. Here's their site: TK Custom Store | TK Custom - Revolver Moon Clips, Loading Tools, & More Good luck with your 19.
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I go to the basement..........
get out the Dremel, some small precision files & sand paper, & have at it.
Once I get it the way I like it, I put the Outlaw Josey Wales disc in the player, & every time Eastwood pulls the trigger, I do too.
Couple o' nights watchin Josey Wales & I am good to go.
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I sent my Model 19 back to the factory for a Combat Action Package that included, of course, an action job
It is one SWEEEET trigger.
They also did a bead blast blue on it so you wouldn't want the package.
They checked the 19 over for any needed work and the job was done by the factory.
I would recommend and they will send a shipping label out to you.
Good luck whichever direction you go.
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