I shoot my K38 for bullseye. The guys I shoot with are alittle older and shoot at 15 and 25 yards. Do I still need to set up my sights at 6 oclock? I think the trajectory is the same for both distances(flat)? I keep getting different answers.

Which ever way is best for you, you can use a 12 noon hold if you want, some has used the bottom of the target setting on the rear sight. The most anymore use a red dot dead on. 6 o'clock hold was the one used the most, just need to keep track of the clicks up and down. Go red dot .

With a .38 target load, I don't find the difference between 15 yds and 25 yds sufficiently different to make any sight adjustments.

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H Richard
SWCA1967 SWHF244

You will have to move your sights up to go to 50 yards from 25, but there is no sight adjustment fron 15 to 25.
Bob

You do not need to adjust the sights for 15 and 25 yards. The trajectory doesn't change that much. However, you do need to change at the 50 yard line. I would set the sights at 6 o'clock for up to 25 hards and at fifty yards, aim at center of bull. This way, you do not need to mess around with the sights. Remember, most of your fire fights are from three to 7 yards. At three yards, you need to point and shoot and at 7 yards the front sight will take care of the intended target. You don't have time to line up the sights at 7 yards. An intended threat with a knife will kill you at 21 feet if you are not quick enough to stop him. That is the magic number.

I find that if I'm using an UltraDot and a center-hold, with my 6" 686 (upper right in the picture) and .38 wadcutters (3.1gr W231 behind a 148gr HBWC bullet), I need about 5 or 6 clicks of down-elevation adjustment when going from 50 yards to 25 yards. I also grip the gun a little lower at 25 yards to allow my thumb to easily recock the gun without needing to shift my grip in the middle of a 5-shot string; gripping it lower allows more muzzle-flip, and thus makes the shots land higher.

I have a similar sight-adjustment/grip-change scheme for my 5" 625 (lower right in the picture) and its .45ACP load (4.3gr AA#2, 185gr LSWC bullet) with a center-hold.

If I'm using iron sights and a 6'o'clock hold with my 6" Model 14 (lower left in the picture) and a .38 Special load (3.6gr AA#2, 158gr LSWC bullet), I don't make any adjustments when going from 50 yards to 25 yards, going from the standard NRA B-6 target (50 yards slowfire, 8"-ish diameter aiming black) to the standard NRA B-8 target (25 yards timed/rapid, 6"-ish diameter aiming black). I also grip it lower in timed/rapid to make cocking the hammer easier.

For my 6" 617 (upper left) and its load (Federal #750 bulk-pack 36gr copper-washed high-velocity) and a center-hold, I don't make any sight adjustments between the long and short lines, though I do change my grip.

Good information all, but, I'm sorry, shooting a revolver in the Bullseye RF string seems just a little masochistic.

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Dean
SWCA #680 SWHF #446

Which is exactly why I decided to shoot revolvers in Bullseye: I started shooting in a local .22 league with a Ruger Mk. II, and then I found their website. On it was a FAQ, and it had a section on what guns can be used. One blurb in the FAQ stated:

and I took that as a challenge. So for the second time I shot in the league I brought my 617-6 and I've been shooting revolvers in Bullseye ever since--and yes, I cock the hammer for every shot, even in rapid-fire. Only three times since that first time (March 2008) have I shot an autoloader in Bullseye. I'm starting to edge into the Master class now, and I'm determined to make it with revolvers.

Once I get there, maybe I'll try shooting seriously with autoloaders...or maybe I'll continue shooting Conventional Pistol with UNconventional pistols. I cobbled together this abomination a few nights ago:



It's a S&W .32-20 Hand Ejector Model of 1905 - 3rd Change, wearing a T-grip and a 2.5x32mm scope on an Aimtech side-plate base. It's been parkerized, and there is pitting in and on the barrel, so it doesn't really have any collector value. But it shoots OK.

Or maybe this one:


A S&W 629-5, .44 Magnum, UltraDot. Loaded with .44 Specials, it's basically like shooting a .45...but not.

Or perhaps this one:


A Ruger Blackhawk in .357 Magnum, Weaver base, UltraDot red-dot scope. This one is probably the most difficult to shoot, since I have to be really consistent in my followthrough, or else its tendency to roll in recoil will throw shots all over the paper. This one actually requires a full-power .38 Special load to get it to roll up enough to recock it in timed and rapid fire, so light .38 wadcutters don't work as well.

Masochistic? Maybe. But as I figure that I'm probably never going to be really competitive, especially once I make Master and stop leading the Expert class in my local matches, I might as well have fun with it.

What's this 15 yards stuff? Adjustable sights are there for a reason. As to center hold, 6 or sub 6 hold, it depends on you. And that may come from eyesight, lenses you have, and lighting on the target and sights.

When I shot bullseye in the military I always used a 6 o'clock hold on both the 50 and 25 yard targets. This was using a 1911, armory moded with adjustable sights. I sometimes shot the any centerfire portion with my 6" M19, using issue .38 Spec. ball ammo. Used the same hold as with the 1911. Don't remember changing my hold when trasitioning to the 25 yard line. I wasn't a great shot, but usually could score a 290-295 unless I was having a real bad day. Those were great times. I could shoot every day, and had unlimited free ammo!

5 shots in 10 seconds...make sure first shot is fired after the fire command and you have 9 seconds for 4 shots,plenty of time.

And 10 seconds can be longer than you think...I've had several rapid-fire strings where I got all my shots off and then looked at the target for one or two more seconds before it turned/the buzzer went off.

I shoot double action all the time, I have the hand set tight and I can pull the trigger and it cocks the hammer back and like shooting it by cocking. Make it alot easier to do that way. Any time I shoot, I do it double action. This is a habit from PPC days on the range.

Where you hold on the target is not important . Being consistent is . At that range you should be shooting one ragged hole groups . Use the sights to move your group to desired point of impact .
Andy

I use to shoot Bullseye for years, however, when I started to need bifocals my sight vision really dropped (as did my scores). That was before the ultradots were popular.

Recently I installed an ultradot on my Model 41 and was impressed enough to start practicing again.

I do have a question. Since the military is now using the 9mm in competition why has not the NRA allowed any 40 cal to be used in the 45 event. My Sig in the 40 SW will shoot 2 inch groups out of the box. I may be wrong but cost probably has a lot to do with the lessor popularity of Bullseye.

Been away for 10 years.