Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson General Topics > Smith & Wesson Competitive Shooting

Notices

Smith & Wesson Competitive Shooting All aspects of competitive shooting using Smith and Wesson Firearms. Including: IPSC, IDPA, Silhouette, Bullseye.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-20-2013, 11:54 PM
Nick B Nick B is offline
US Veteran
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: S.W. Fl.
Posts: 1,578
Likes: 678
Liked 1,160 Times in 448 Posts
Default IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014

Anybody know about a rule change for revolvers coming up in early 2014 ?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-21-2013, 12:31 AM
handgunner356 handgunner356 is offline
Member
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SE Iowa on the Mississipp
Posts: 3,137
Likes: 1
Liked 352 Times in 230 Posts
Default

Haven't heard of any in IDPA, USPSA is going to allow 8-shots to be used scored minor.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #3  
Old 12-21-2013, 02:10 AM
Bkreutz's Avatar
Bkreutz Bkreutz is offline
US Veteran
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Fruitland Idaho
Posts: 5,076
Likes: 1,586
Liked 4,882 Times in 2,025 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick B View Post
Anybody know about a rule change for revolvers coming up in early 2014 ?
The new rule book went into effect 10/1/2013 (online only). I don't shoot revolver but there don't seem to be many changes (there are notes in the margins explaining changes) There are some clarifications about certain parts that were in a "gray" area under the previous rules. I don't see where the book is downloadable to non members on the IDPA website (but I may have missed it) I have a copy on my computer if you have a specific question that I can help with.
__________________
Minimize the variables
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-21-2013, 03:54 AM
OKFC05 OKFC05 is offline
Member
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 8,160
Likes: 3,620
Liked 5,205 Times in 2,173 Posts
Default

http://members.idpa.com/Content/Rules/g0hunysc.eoc.pdf
Anybody can download the rules.

I shoot IDPA revolver, and there are no more rule changes slated for 2014. The only sig change to SSR was a 3 ounce increase in the weight limit. Everything except ESR is now 42oz.

You must be thinking about the USPSA revolver changes.
__________________
Science plus Art
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-21-2013, 01:17 PM
David Sinko David Sinko is offline
Member
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,091
Likes: 0
Liked 379 Times in 219 Posts
Default

I have heard that "illegal equipment" is now allowed at the match but the shooter will not be scored with everybody else and gets a DNF for the match. I don't know if this is true or not. If so, it would appeal to me in that I can actually load my 627 with eight rounds vs. six and not waste time worrying about where the empty chambers fall. I don't see them adding a new division called Custom Defensive Revolver any time soon so I'd be happy if I could just compete with 8x357 Magnum, scoring be damned. And of course I'd be shooting full power .357 Magnum loads.

Dave Sinko
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-21-2013, 01:40 PM
Bkreutz's Avatar
Bkreutz Bkreutz is offline
US Veteran
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Fruitland Idaho
Posts: 5,076
Likes: 1,586
Liked 4,882 Times in 2,025 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OKFC05 View Post
http://members.idpa.com/Content/Rules/g0hunysc.eoc.pdf
Anybody can download the rules.

I shoot IDPA revolver, and there are no more rule changes slated for 2014. The only sig change to SSR was a 3 ounce increase in the weight limit. Everything except ESR is now 42oz.

You must be thinking about the USPSA revolver changes.
I see how that's done now. You log into the IDPA site and then copy the link to the rulebook PDF. I didn't try that figuring it wouldn't work. I was looking at the public part of the site and didn't see a link. Now I know better, thanks.
__________________
Minimize the variables
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-21-2013, 05:30 PM
Sparrowbird Sparrowbird is offline
Member
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 101
Likes: 1
Liked 8 Times in 7 Posts
Default

I'd like to see IDPA allow 8X357's in the CD class. No exceptions for power factor. That way an 8 shot revolver is competing head to head with an 8 shot semi auto. That would be fun!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-21-2013, 09:44 PM
Bib's Avatar
Bib Bib is offline
Member
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: McKees Rocks Pa.
Posts: 666
Likes: 2,049
Liked 1,083 Times in 301 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Sinko View Post
I have heard that "illegal equipment" is now allowed at the match but the shooter will not be scored with everybody else and gets a DNF for the match. I don't know if this is true or not. If so, it would appeal to me in that I can actually load my 627 with eight rounds vs. six and not waste time worrying about where the empty chambers fall. I don't see them adding a new division called Custom Defensive Revolver any time soon so I'd be happy if I could just compete with 8x357 Magnum, scoring be damned. And of course I'd be shooting full power .357 Magnum loads.

Dave Sinko
Yes, but it's called "Not for Competition" Calibers smaller than 9mm are allowed...longer barrels...your 8 round revolver..optical devices....all could be used. Equipment rules (holster types/positioning, etc.) all still apply. It is NOT written that you would be given a DNF.... Implementing this category is up to the discretion of the match director and is only allowed at Tier 1 (small local) matches.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-21-2013, 09:47 PM
Bib's Avatar
Bib Bib is offline
Member
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: McKees Rocks Pa.
Posts: 666
Likes: 2,049
Liked 1,083 Times in 301 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrowbird View Post
I'd like to see IDPA allow 8X357's in the CD class. No exceptions for power factor. That way an 8 shot revolver is competing head to head with an 8 shot semi auto. That would be fun!
I have to look into this....it may already be legal. You have always been able to shoot a given firearm in a HIGHER class if you choose to do so.....

I put an email out to my Match Director buddy.....now I'm thinking the 8 shot is taboo in any class

Last edited by Bib; 12-21-2013 at 09:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-22-2013, 01:51 AM
Bkreutz's Avatar
Bkreutz Bkreutz is offline
US Veteran
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Fruitland Idaho
Posts: 5,076
Likes: 1,586
Liked 4,882 Times in 2,025 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bib View Post
I have to look into this....it may already be legal. You have always been able to shoot a given firearm in a HIGHER class if you choose to do so.....

I put an email out to my Match Director buddy.....now I'm thinking the 8 shot is taboo in any class
They're OK in ESR, here's a quote from the rulebook:

8.2.4.1.6. Be loaded to the division capacity of six (6) rounds in the cylinder. Seven (7) and eight (8) shot revolvers are permitted, but may only load six (6) rounds.
__________________
Minimize the variables
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-22-2013, 01:02 PM
roundgunner's Avatar
roundgunner roundgunner is offline
US Veteran
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Rural, CT
Posts: 1,721
Likes: 578
Liked 1,390 Times in 324 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by David Sinko View Post
I have heard that "illegal equipment" is now allowed at the match but the shooter will not be scored with everybody else and gets a DNF for the match. I don't know if this is true or not. If so, it would appeal to me in that I can actually load my 627 with eight rounds vs. six and not waste time worrying about where the empty chambers fall. I don't see them adding a new division called Custom Defensive Revolver any time soon so I'd be happy if I could just compete with 8x357 Magnum, scoring be damned. And of course I'd be shooting full power .357 Magnum loads.

Dave Sinko

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bib View Post
Yes, but it's called "Not for Competition" Calibers smaller than 9mm are allowed...longer barrels...your 8 round revolver..optical devices....all could be used. Equipment rules (holster types/positioning, etc.) all still apply. It is NOT written that you would be given a DNF.... Implementing this category is up to the discretion of the match director and is only allowed at Tier 1 (small local) matches.
I do this at our local matches often. I call it the Outlaw division and score it along with others for comparison. I'm also the club contact and MD/SO many of the matches so I get some latitude.
I like to shoot what I carry now and then for practice, I keep a laser on every gun that gets carried. It is good to practice with what you carry and IDPA is good practice. Many think the laser slows you down, it may at first but with practice from 10-50 feet the laser is much faster for me. I shoot ESR & SSR Master.
__________________
Shoot fast & live long
Warren

Last edited by roundgunner; 12-22-2013 at 01:07 PM. Reason: Missed DS quote
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-23-2013, 05:17 PM
Guitarmageddon Guitarmageddon is offline
Member
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 231
Likes: 22
Liked 96 Times in 47 Posts
Default

Ok, so can someone clarify what division/organization I can shoot my R8 in....that allows me to load 8 shots....AND treats me like the rest of the shooters (many with more ammo) and gives me a score at the end?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-23-2013, 05:42 PM
Bkreutz's Avatar
Bkreutz Bkreutz is offline
US Veteran
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Fruitland Idaho
Posts: 5,076
Likes: 1,586
Liked 4,882 Times in 2,025 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guitarmageddon View Post
Ok, so can someone clarify what division/organization I can shoot my R8 in....that allows me to load 8 shots....AND treats me like the rest of the shooters (many with more ammo) and gives me a score at the end?
This is probably the least complicated, least amount of rules, and generally a lot of fun.

Steel Challenge Shooting Association Home Page - US Practical Shooting Assocation
__________________
Minimize the variables
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-23-2013, 06:27 PM
Guitarmageddon Guitarmageddon is offline
Member
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 231
Likes: 22
Liked 96 Times in 47 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bkreutz View Post
This is probably the least complicated, least amount of rules, and generally a lot of fun.

Steel Challenge Shooting Association Home Page - US Practical Shooting Assocation
So I can shoot all 8 rounds, and have a red dot if I so choose? I dont even think a fully loaded R8 meets weight requirements. Damn this **** is all so confusing. I think there are ZERO clubs within a 200 mile radius from me that do steel challenge anyways.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-23-2013, 09:26 PM
Bkreutz's Avatar
Bkreutz Bkreutz is offline
US Veteran
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Fruitland Idaho
Posts: 5,076
Likes: 1,586
Liked 4,882 Times in 2,025 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guitarmageddon View Post
So I can shoot all 8 rounds, and have a red dot if I so choose? I dont even think a fully loaded R8 meets weight requirements. Damn this **** is all so confusing. I think there are ZERO clubs within a 200 mile radius from me that do steel challenge anyways.
Yes,
Yes,
Don't know of any weight requirements

Have you tried the club locator at the link I provided? That way you will know for sure instead of thinking.
__________________
Minimize the variables
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-01-2014, 10:32 PM
gnappi's Avatar
gnappi gnappi is offline
Member
IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014 IDPA Revolver Rule Change For 2014  
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: South Florida
Posts: 373
Likes: 69
Liked 364 Times in 126 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by handgunner356 View Post
Haven't heard of any in IDPA, USPSA is going to allow 8-shots to be used scored minor.
How generous of them... let a 9 shot super shoot major... are they THAT afraid of revolvers winning? Oh well you don't get minor penalized for "A" shots :-)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
IDPA - The New Rule Book is Here ric_in_or Smith & Wesson Competitive Shooting 9 07-27-2013 12:43 PM
IDPA - The New Rule Book is Here ric_in_or Smith & Wesson Competitive Shooting 0 06-26-2013 01:52 PM
NRA PPC Rule Change KAC Smith & Wesson Competitive Shooting 10 05-25-2011 09:40 AM
NRA Regional Rule Change kraigwy Smith & Wesson Competitive Shooting 1 06-18-2010 02:21 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:14 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)