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Old 07-21-2016, 09:34 AM
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Finaly i had a chanse to go to the range
Sorry for the cm ruler. With the fliers i think it is about 1.9 inch?
Defenatly not ideal handloads but they allways go bang

S&W modell 19-4 2.1/2"


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Finaly i had a chanse to go to the range
Sorry for the cm ruler. With the fliers i think it is about 1.9 inch?
Defenatly not ideal handloads but they allways go bang

S&W modell 19-4 2.1/2"


Nice group! Not too bad of a flier.

When I shoot a 10 shot string I start with a nice group and then throw 9 fliers.

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Old 07-21-2016, 01:39 PM
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Looks like its going to take some time to figure out the winner, Most in the 2-3" area. Good shooting. What I like to hear is "I need to do this more" That would be ME TOO.

I have shot this once this month so far. Next time I may have to use my 3" 624.

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Old 07-26-2016, 08:26 AM
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About 3" c-c.

This was dad's 624. He also made the wood car.

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Old 07-27-2016, 11:42 AM
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Here's my contribution, a lousy 4.3 inches. I was doing OK util I jerked the 8th shot. Tried it again, jerked shots 3 and 4 worse that this one so gave up on it.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:42 AM
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July Winner is....

BB57 with 1.8" 10 shot group 10 yards double action.


Thanks to the folks that shot
Thanks to the folks that shot multiple guns
Thanks to prplkrr for shooting full house 357.

For August, shoot from Under Cover
Two hands, double action 10 shots.
Be creative if you can. Prone would be fine,
Around a corner, resting your arm on the side of the shooting booth, behind a box, kneeling, Whatever, keep it safe and around 10 yards.

If sitting in a chair is the only option, THEN USE ONE HAND.


Probably going to use my model 36.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:42 AM
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Congrats to BB57!!!
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Yes! Good shooting BB571. You set a pretty high bar.
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I do not have any .38 brass. I always shoot full house .357.

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The rule this month was shoot from cover and be "creative". I think I met that criteria.

Shot with a S&W 640 Centennial and full house .357 loads.

1st shot hit the black. I was really pleased with this target, given the unorthodoxed shooting position. And I never have shot this way before. Saw it done on T.V. once.

Group measured right at 5". Target height was set at 6'.

I had Mrs. Purple Bikerr take the pic when I got home from the range.
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Old 08-07-2016, 03:20 PM
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The rule this month was shoot from cover and be "creative". I think I met that criteria.

Shot with a S&W 640 Centennial and full house .357 loads.

1st shot hit the black. I was really pleased with this target, given the unorthodoxed shooting position. And I never have shot this way before. Saw it done on T.V. once.

Group measured right at 5". Target height was set at 6'.

I had Mrs. Purple Bikerr take the pic when I got home from the range.

Now that qualifies as creative!!!
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:06 AM
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I love it!

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If I got down in that position, it would take a crane to get me back up.
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Old 08-09-2016, 08:40 PM
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Oh, it wasn't too hard. I just sat up.
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Well, I went to the range, and tried to be creative. I wanted to drive my car onto the range and shoot across the hood, using the car for cover. However they wouldn't let me get my car that close to the range. So I simulated my car wiht a high bench and sat in a chair behind it. Shot pretty good. Then I went home and read the rules. "Oh Godfrey Daniels", to quote W.C. Fields; when shooting seated, I had to use one hand. So I went back the next day and reshot, one handed this time. Shot 3 5/8 inches. Had a good group going but too often I let the front sight get a little too high.

I used my S&W 638,instead of the elderly M&P I've been using and which I put Sile grips on. The M&P is heavier,and has a better grip, particularly wearing the Siles. I shoot it better, but the pistol I stick in my pocket when I go out is the 638. I want to become more accustomed to it and will use it in the future.
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Old 08-31-2016, 03:43 PM
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I debated about sending this in, but here it is anyhow.

My M36 acted up big time - the hammer would come back to full cock, then just stay there until it felt like dropping.

Needless to say, this caused havoc on the target, with shots sprayed almost to 9".

It has never given any trouble before, so this first time seems to make up for all those trouble free years.

Anybody have any ideas on possible causes - and cures?

Thanks.

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I'd have the sideplate off that thing in a jiffy to see what's going on in there. Pehaps a cleaning or a little lube might help.
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Old 09-01-2016, 07:46 PM
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I'd have the sideplate off that thing in a jiffy to see what's going on in there. Pehaps a cleaning or a little lube might help.
True enough, but I'm dreading that. The sideplate fits so tight it is a major ordeal to get off.
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All that entered won for creativity. I have to say Cyrano's 3 5/8" group is good shooting. One hand keeps it more than fair.

Prplbkrr made me smile! Thanks.

For September, we will keep it simple. 10 rounds 5 yards ONE HAND DA.

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Man, I keep forgetting that this is still going on. It took me awhile to go through all the threads. Looks like you guys have been having some fun! I haven't been to the range in so long I probably couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a cannon, and that's Not acceptable.
I'm glad the newest match is simple. I need to make it a point to get to the range this week.
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True enough, but I'm dreading that. The sideplate fits so tight it is a major ordeal to get off.
I may have posted this before; if so, disregard it. About 1958 I was on the Army Air Defense Command pistol team and we went to Camp Perry. We had S&W 38 Special Masterspiece revolvers for the center fire match. I went to the S&W tent for something, and saw how they got the sideplate off revovlers sent in for repair. They took out alll the screws, removed the grips and cylinder, then held the revolver with the right side down. From the height of about a foot, they slammed the revolver down as hard as they could on a block of wood. The sideplate popped right off. I've got to say the first time I saw it my eyes bugged out but it seemed to have worked very well. Everybody was shooting K 38s so they had a lot of them to work on.

I've also heard that you can hit the left side of the frame with a plasic mallet once you get all the screws and grip off. Just don't pry it off: that will usually ruin the fit in the frame.
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I may have posted this before; if so, disregard it. About 1958 I was on the Army Air Defense Command pistol team and we went to Camp Perry. We had S&W 38 Special Masterspiece revolvers for the center fire match. I went to the S&W tent for something, and saw how they got the sideplate off revovlers sent in for repair. They took out alll the screws, removed the grips and cylinder, then held the revolver with the right side down. From the height of about a foot, they slammed the revolver down as hard as they could on a block of wood. The sideplate popped right off. I've got to say the first time I saw it my eyes bugged out but it seemed to have worked very well. Everybody was shooting K 38s so they had a lot of them to work on.

I've also heard that you can hit the left side of the frame with a plasic mallet once you get all the screws and grip off. Just don't pry it off: that will usually ruin the fit in the frame.

Slamming it down is scary. I've always been told to use the mallet, but it can be a real bear. I've seen it done in a shop, but....
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True enough, but I'm dreading that. The sideplate fits so tight it is a major ordeal to get off.
After removing the stocks, remove the sideplate screws and then, firmly hold the gun sideplate-up and tap the gripframe repeatedly with a composition hammer (non-marring!). If no hammer, use a chunk of wood. You don't need to tap super-hard. The sideplate WILL eventually pop free and allow you to just lift it up and clear. Worked for me every time. Hope I helped.

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to remove the side plate, try this.
Remove all the screws and then smack the back of the grip with the handle of the screwdriver. That jarring should cause the plate to pop loose.
Works for me.
Search You Tube for a video on how to.
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After removing the stocks, remove the sideplate screws and then, firmly hold the gun sideplate-up and tap the gripframe repeatedly with a composition hammer (non-marring!). If no hammer, use a chunk of wood. You don't need to tap super-hard. The sideplate WILL eventually pop free and allow you to just lift it up and clear. Worked for me every time. Hope I helped.
Thanks for the tip!
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to remove the side plate, try this.
Remove all the screws and then smack the back of the grip with the handle of the screwdriver. That jarring should cause the plate to pop loose.
Works for me.
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Reading through this has now made my week. I can't wait to get back to the range and rent myself a snub to join in. The friendly "fun" you've created here, David R is an honor to you. Good going, and keep it going!
The humor and enjoyment from all participants is evident, and encouraging! Thanks.
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Thought I would jump in on this. Wish I'd discovered it sooner. Groups are as best I could measure them.



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I was at the range this morning and forgot all about this. I burned up three boxes of ammo through my 2 inch S&W Model 12-2. Jeez.

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Thanks!
Well, I got the M36 up & running just fine.

Laziness (and nervousness) talked me out of removing the side plate, at least for the first try.

Instead I got a can of Birchwood Casey "gun scrubber" and removed the grips. I squirted it down every opening on the gun - and some dark gunk ran out. I let it soak for a while, then hosed it again - this time the "stuff" was only brown. Let it soak again - and it came out clear!

Now it's back to normal!

Thanks for all the tips & encouragement.
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Same here. I took my just purchased 2 1/2" Model 66-4 to the range and put two boxes of 158 gr LSWCs and a box of my .38 +P self defense loads through it.

The sights were way off to the left and low, so I assume the previous owner had some trigger control issues. Once I got it zeroed it was driving tacks with 125 gr XTPs at 7 yards - as in nice one hole groups.

The DA trigger is quite good so I suspect that it's capable of very good DA one hand groups as well - I just didn't think of it at the time.
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Here is my entry. Cell phone dead, so no pic of gun & ruler, but it really doesn't matter as I did poorly again. This confirms that I REALLY have to paint the skinny front sight, as it was very nearly invisible. That surely doesn't help, when you can't see the sight....

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WINNER for September is Wyo with a 1.07" group.

We all win when we go out and shoot.

For October, 10 rounds TWO hands, 5 yards.

I would like to see some one hole groups.

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WINNER for September is Wyo with a 1.07" group.

We all win when we go out and shoot.

For October, 10 rounds TWO hands, 5 yards.

I would like to see some one hole groups.

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UMMM, SA or DA?
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642-1 10/04/16 DA, of course.
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10 shots, two hands, DA, with my recently acquired 2.5" Model 66, which has a very, very nice trigger.

This was a little tough as the aim point disappeared with 10 rounds.



The longest dimension in the group was vertical. With the tearing of the paper when the backer got chewed up by the small group it's hard to be precise and I have to estimate the edge of the bottom shot.

I'm going to call it 1.2" edge to edge and .843" center to center.

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Old 10-13-2016, 08:46 AM
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DA or SA. some do not have a choice, so post what you used.

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Old 10-20-2016, 07:10 PM
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I had to shoot this one from 25 feet, so decided to go DA.
S&W M36, Fed AE 158 LRN
First try with sight painted green
Group size 5-1/16" & low - nothing to brag about



Still have trouble with that skinny front sight!
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The better of my two efforts.
Still from 25ft, SA only
Ruger Speed Six, 2-3/4" bbl
9mm Luger, WW 124 NATO FMJ
group size 3-3/8"




That fat front sight sure helps - now to get the POI up where it belongs!
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The better of my two efforts.
Still from 25ft, SA only
Ruger Speed Six, 2-3/4" bbl
9mm Luger, WW 124 NATO FMJ
group size 3-3/8"




That fat front sight sure helps - now to get the POI up where it belongs!
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Old 10-28-2016, 06:59 PM
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My entries for October. Best group of those shot with three guns. It occurs to me I forgot to include a ruler in the photos, but the group sizes I measured are shown on the targets:



Next is the group with a Model 60. I don't shoot it as well as the Model 10. Those stainless sights are hard to see!



Finally, a Model 34 snub. I wasn't even sure .22's were legal for this, but it is a snub after all:

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Greetings,

The better of my two efforts.
Still from 25ft, SA only
Ruger Speed Six, 2-3/4" bbl
9mm Luger, WW 124 NATO FMJ
group size 3-3/8"




That fat front sight sure helps - now to get the POI up where it belongs!
Awesome.

A 2 3/4" Speed Six in 9mm Luger is a bucket list gun for me.
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Awesome.

A 2 3/4" Speed Six in 9mm Luger is a bucket list gun for me.
I guess they are pretty rare - this is the only one I have ever seen.
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No pic of target this month, but with my S&W 640 Centennial shooting full house magnum loads I measured the group at 1.9"

Too bad I didn't stop at 7 shots as those measured a hair under an inch. I could cover the hole with a quarter.
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The winner for October is Wyo with .753" for 10 shots with a model 10. Great shooting! I was looking for one hole groups and saw a few.

Thanks to all that entered.

Now we are going to move it back before it gets too cold to shoot outside.

For this month of November, 50 feet, resting on anything you want. Gun can touch NOTHING. Wrists on a rolled up towel, Out your car window (only if its legal), or off a bench. Do as you wish. No resting the butt or barrel. Hold it in your hands. 10 shots, DA or SA if you have it. I will be doing it with my 637 using both Iron sights and the CT laser grip sights.

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Thanks to all that entered.

Now we are going to move it back before it gets too cold to shoot outside.

For this month of November, 50 feet, resting on anything you want. Gun can touch NOTHING. Wrists on a rolled up towel, Out your car window (only if its legal), or off a bench. Do as you wish. No resting the butt or barrel. Hold it in your hands. 10 shots, DA or SA if you have it. I will be doing it with my 637 using both Iron sights and the CT laser grip sights.

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Congrats to Wyo - you set the bar high & give the rest of us something to strive for!
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Here we go again.

For December, 5 shots right hand, 5 shots left hand on the same target. 7 yards. DA or SA which ever you prefer, please disclose which you use.

Apologise for being late this month.

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