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Old 09-13-2014, 08:14 AM
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For the rest of September 10 shots from a 45 at 25 yards OFF HAND.

Any 45 caliber semiauto or revolver.

Please show picture of gun, target and a ruler.

Smallest group wins.

We can refine this as we go.

It does not have to be a Smith to enter.
Enter as many times as you want with what ever 45 you have.

The match rules will be posted on the first of the month just like the Snubby match.

Prize will be 25 targets custom made for this match.

I am an old bullseye shooter, this should be fun.

Heading to the range now.

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Auto Ordinance purchased for $300 in the mid to late 80s. It now has a wilsons match grade barrel and shoots better than I can. Commerical cast 200 swc 5.0 Promo (red dot) 929 fps.

I need practice.

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David, I post this only for the smile, as these rules aren't followed. I'm new to owning a semi auto- this is my first, and this Colt is 400 or so rounds into being brand-new out of the box.

Also- from a indoor range, 17 yards is as far back as I can get. And the paper from that distance was so bad, I didn't want to post it. So here's my less-than-stellar 7 rounds at 10 yards.



This hip cannon is all new to me. I haven't been shooting all that long, and its all been with revolvers. So becoming accustomed to a stiffer trigger pull, having a slide fly back at your nose, and having brass flying everywhere in the range box is new.

Hoping to get used to these as well as to figure out the sights on this thing. I'll try again soon, and see what further 17 yard results bring.
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You see previous post how well a 45 can shoot.

Go back and try again. 17 yards is acceptable if its all you can use.


We need more entries.

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Offhand? One handed? Or standing two-handed?
Inquiring .45 owners want to know.
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Inquiring .45 owners want to know.
This month, any hold you want. First post says off hand. No resting.

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Greeting,

Here is my 45 cal match entry - feeble as it may be.

Ruger Old Model convertible
45 ACP cylinder
MagTech 200 gr LSWC ammo
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I am a little behind. 4" takes the match for september.

For October, one hand 10 yards. 10 shots. ANY 45.

I am going to use my officers model.

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I am a little behind. 4" takes the match for september.

For October, one hand 10 yards. 10 shots. ANY 45.

I am going to use my officers model.

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Just for grins & giggles I think I'll drag out my Norwegian Colt. Also, is it kosher to shoot both cylinders in my Ruger convertible? I'm curious about how the 45 Colt will compare to the 45 ACP.
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Yes please shoot both cylinders. That is why I said 45 cal , not 45 auto. I was hoping a bunch of model 25 would show up for the match.

I am an old bullseye shooter . GAME ON!

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Yes please shoot both cylinders. That is why I said 45 cal , not 45 auto. I was hoping a bunch of model 25 would show up for the match.

I am an old bullseye shooter . GAME ON!

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Well, if you can settle for a 625 I can help.....
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Placeholder for OCT - thanks!

Committing to memory: 10 rounds - 10 yards - 45 cal - one hand - awfulhand

Mantra: aim small, miss small

OK...

Did 2 targets today with number 1 measuring 3" and number 2 measuring 3.5" on a cold, windy day.
I fired from a Bullseye stance, just for fun, which I don't often do at the range.
Enjoy and here's hoping for many more entries this month.



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I'm new to owning a semi auto- this is my first, and this Colt is 400 or so rounds into being brand-new out of the box. This hip cannon is all new to me. I haven't been shooting all that long, and its all been with revolvers. So becoming accustomed to a stiffer trigger pull...
I just saw your post. It shouldn't take you much, if any, longer to get used to the Colt. A long time ago, I used to think, "How can anyone shoot this thing?" After the rounded grip frames of Smiths and Ruger single-actions, it felt like a brick in my hand...all those straight lines and corners, you know? But I soon learned the right way to hold it, and the non-adjustable sights work just fine for my purposes. The Colt 1911 platform is the genetic ancestor of every clone and copycat in today's market.

I'm actually a little surprised to read about the "stiffer trigger pull", because my Colt Series 70 Mark IV has the best out-of-the-box trigger pull of any semi-auto I've ever fired.

And don't fall for all that malarkey about how you have to send it off for a trigger job and "tightening up the action" before it'll be any good. It's a fine weapon just as it comes from the factory, and a whole lot of fun to shoot. Save that money you'd spend on "customizing" it and put it towards another Colt 1911.
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Auto Ordinance purchased for $300 in the mid to late 80s. It now has a wilsons match grade barrel...

David
I'm genuinely curious...what differentiates a match grade barrel, say one made by Wilson, from the factory barrel? I've heard people talk about match grade barrels and bushings and what all, but never really researched the topic.

I've always like the looks (except for the cheesy looking "U.S." stocks) of Auto Ordnance's plain vanilla Parkerized 1911, but the funny thing is, you absolutely cannot find one at any shop around here. Not one. No one stocks Auto Ordnance stuff. I've never even seen a used one. I think Rock Island has almost run them out of the market.
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Match grade parts are "too big" to drop in and work. The parts have to be tweaked, filed, machined, blessed with holy oil, and behold the part fits. If you use a Ransome rest, the gun was built right, and the ammo is 'tuned' for the gun, you get a large 1-1/2" diameter hole torn in the paper at 50 yards with no flyers.

I have two of those mystical 1911s that shoot groups 1/3 to 1/8 the size I can. At this point in my life, pride of ownership is good for me. Sometimes I have one of those "How did I do that?" targets, and the next one will be shot in 7 weeks -- dots of perfection in sea of ineptitude, and I'm having fun.
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Match barrels are fitted to the gun. That is the third barrel in that gun, the second one had a junk chamber I could load the bullets as long as i wanted and they would still chamber and fire.

The gun was originally parkerized, cheap finish of flat black. I had it blued quite a few years ago. I shot a lot of bullseye with that gun. It was more accurate than my friends new series 80 gold cup. It will do 1" at 25 and 2" at 50 yards with a 200 swc and 3.5 bullseye. It will feed a magazine of empty cases. There are many faults with it. The rear sight is not exactly level and the front sight came off a couple times so I tig welded it on. I bought that gun around 1987. Quality of all guns was not so good at the time this one was no exception. I knew I was going to rebuild it when I bought it so a frame and slide are what I was looking for. The first thing I did was a trigger job.

I bought auto ordinance because it was the cheapest 45 I could find at the time.

TenTea, beautiful model 25.

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TenTea, beautiful model 25.

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Thanks, David.

It be a 1955 Target Model (technically pre-25).

I had been researching and lusting after a Model 25-2 for about a year, when I found this gun, languishing unloved in GA. It has a *W* mainspring and I've been shooting it weekly+ this year...just not too often in Bullseye stance.
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This is fun, I am in second by 1/8". Series 80 officers model box stock. Gotta try again.

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Guess I missed September. Here was 10 shots @ 25 yards from my Rock River hardball gun shooting 230 gr FMJ. The group was 3 5/16".

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I've no idea how I missed this thread
I don't have much interest in 10yd......

I would like to suggest to OP to please consider a 40yd offhand in a future month
(I don't have 50 yards at my club)

thanks, DaveV
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Trulyapostolic.

Beautiful Target. I got out of bullseye (and casting) because lead poisening about 5 years ago. I do miss it. Does your hardball gun have a 4 lb trigger?

I shoot more rifle now. I am paying the same for jacketed 22 bullets as I am 45 LSWC by the thousand.

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The trigger is a few ounces over 4 lbs.
I had to deal with my lead issues as well. Indoors I wear a respirator and make sure to wash my hands with lead removing soap. That took care of my problem in 1 year.
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Here is my October 10 yards one hand entry.

25-2 & Target


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Nice shooting, 625!

Dang... well, I'll post these anyway.





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Dang... well, I'll post these anyway.





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Cheer up - I haven't entered yet...
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how do i get in on this? looks like fun. what are the rules? i have performance center .45 i got back in '95 brand new that i shoot bullseye with - will that work?
(i have 1911, too - but this is S&W Forum)
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how do i get in on this? looks like fun. what are the rules? i have performance center .45 i got back in '95 brand new that i shoot bullseye with - will that work?
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"For October, one hand 10 yards. 10 shots. ANY 45."
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This is what I was hoping for. Lots of folks shooting for fun. I AM going to try again, look at my target, IF I could keep all of them in that one hole.. . .

It does not have to be a Smith to enter.
Enter as many times as you want with what ever 45 you have.

The match rules will be posted on the first of the month just like the Snubby match.

First post updated to this post.

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Well... got to the range after work today, and I can say I've locked up last place with more efforts. Seems I'm moving ever so slowly away from 4" groups here.

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Pic comes from my phone. Text comes from a keyboard.

25-7 Model of 1989 45 colt. Sweet shooter. Purchased new in 1990. Two trigger jobs done, now its as light as can be. I had a scope on it for deer hunting and loaded then hot. I now have a SRH with scope for hunting. This one is now for fun. I shoot hunters silhouette (100 yards max) with that model 25 as my iron sight gun.

Going to keep trying.

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Got to the range today, had to use the Rock River since I don't own a 45 revolver.
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That is what I have been looking for. I tried again with my model 25. Its a lot of gun to shoot one handed. Going to use my match 45 with match ammo.

This is getting good!

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I went to the range at lunch time. Burned up 60 rounds in the model 25. Gun is right on, I suck. I tried 6 more targets. No joy.

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Hopefully: Placeholder for another October try with a different gun.

Good work (fun) guys!
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no joy per military slang - or no fun???
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No target better than what I have.

Perhaps you could explain the military version. I have no idea.

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No target better than what I have.

Perhaps you could explain the military version. I have no idea.

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"no joy" means "no contact" by radio, radar or visual means.
sorry, I thought you had a military background.
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Can't break sub 2" so far, in fact I'm struggling just to break 3"

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Kimber Cust II
S&W M1917


The m1917 has a good SA trigger, but tiny sights. All shooting at 30ft was SA, rt. hand.


Best effort was 2&5/8" using Rem 'high terminal performance' 230gr jhps. These chrono About 756fps in this gun's 5.5" bbl.


The Kimber has good sights, but while it's a good trigger....it's a little harder to work with shooting one handed bullseye style. That's Ok for me, I don't think I'd really want it any lighter for my needs.
The left target was kind of funny. About 5 rounds in, I threw the wide one. Pissed, I just fired the second 5 quickly and they all basically made one ragged hole.


I'll have to work some more on my one handed BE style shooting.
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Too bad it wasn't two handed five shots at 50 ft. I coulda been a contenda.
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Beautiful guns.

Maybe next month , 2 hands 50 feet.

Nice to see so many enter.

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Default 945 22OCT14 10 Yards

Here is my 10 yard semi-auto entry. Looks like I need to try harder.

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Beautiful gun, beautiful target. I plan to try once more.

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Shot this afternoon, but as I suspected not even close to being a contender! Oh well, I'll try to get them sent in tomorrow - at least the pix of the guns might be interesting.
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My old 45, I gave it a shot. First shot was always great, but as I got to 10 things went down hill fast.

I had a ball and shot a box of my home cast with 3.5 grains Bullseye.

These were the first five of the right target below.


I wore the original finish off and had it blued.

The front sight came off and each time hit me in the forehead. I welded it on.

I put a rod in the grip housing and knurled the front strap in a lathe (by hand) I just rolled the chuck.


The work on the gun was all done thousands of rounds ago. I shot Bullseye for years.

2 1/4" is not good enough. Maybe next month....

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More fun. I put a stock spring in the gun and shot 200 grain 7.0 ulnique about 1000 fps. One hand 10 yards in my back yard. Still 2 3/16".


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You shot better once the pressure was off. I am still in search of a one hole group. Going to try my model 25 one more time.

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Can't break sub 2" so far, in fact I'm struggling just to break 3"

Guns;

Kimber Cust II
S&W M1917


The m1917 has a good SA trigger, but tiny sights. All shooting at 30ft was SA, rt. hand.


Best effort was 2&5/8" using Rem 'high terminal performance' 230gr jhps. These chrono About 756fps in this gun's 5.5" bbl.


The Kimber has good sights, but while it's a good trigger....it's a little harder to work with shooting one handed bullseye style. That's Ok for me, I don't think I'd really want it any lighter for my needs.
The left target was kind of funny. About 5 rounds in, I threw the wide one. Pissed, I just fired the second 5 quickly and they all basically made one ragged hole.


I'll have to work some more on my one handed BE style shooting.
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OK... my latest, which I believe still makes me last... but if this were to place, I would call for my own disqualification. Reason- I'm pretty sure I went "two hand" hold on rounds 8, 9, and 10.

The other attempts swam (as my friend Engineer1911 put it) in "a sea of ineptitude".



I post this anyway, to show off the grips I just made, my first attempt at stocks for a 1911. Bolivian rosewood with the diamond made out of ebony.







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OK... my latest, which I believe still makes me last... but if this were to place, I would call for my own disqualification. Reason- I'm pretty sure I went "two hand" hold on rounds 8, 9, and 10.

The other attempts swam (as my friend Engineer1911 put it) in "a sea of ineptitude".



I post this anyway, to show off the grips I just made, my first attempt at stocks for a 1911. Bolivian rosewood with the diamond made out of ebony.







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Very nice grips!
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