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I have recently started limited IDPS shooting with my favorite revolver a 3' 686P. only problem 7 shot are official allowed I am told. I have always wanted a JM645 5'' since I let my 1955 target get away years ago.

I have a couple of 1917 so are famaliar with moon clips and have the tools.

Any recommendation---Thanks in advance
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You can only have a 4" barrel in IDPA. A 625 is a viable contender. Kind of big for concealed carry, but fine for the match. The 645 is a semi-auto.

I'm shooting a 4" 686 converted to .40 S&W. Smith has made these before, they are called 646. Kind of hard to find and pricey, so I just made my own.

Many of the .38 special or .357 6 shot guns work fine for IDPA too, and can be moonclipped.

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I have a 625 JM and have used it successfully in IDPA. Good gun, you can’t go wrong.

The two biggest restrictions in the revolver division is 6 round capacity ( meaning 686+ or 627-8 shots are illegal) , and as mentioned above, no more than a 4” barrel.

That said, I’ve enjoyed shooting revolver division with my M15, M24-3, M625 and Ruger GP100WCII. Give it a try, am sure you’ll have a good time.
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I shoot my 625 4" in IDPA and USPSA matches and have a HOOT with it and lots of moon clips.
I'm not a speed demon, however it is not often I have rounds out of the A zone or down zero.... Just love hearing the RO call out All Alpha or down Zero over and over again!
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The two biggest restrictions in the revolver division is 6 round capacity ( meaning 686+ or 627-8 shots are illegal) , and as mentioned above, no more than a 4” barrel.
IDPA does allow 7 & 8 shot revolvers, but the gun and all loading devices can only be loaded with 6 rounds. Means you have to index the empty chamber (in the OP's 686+) under the hammer when you reload.

Also, the barrel length limit is 4.25" - a seeming small difference, but some manufacturers produce guns for export to countries with a minimum allowable barrel length of 105 mm (4.13") and this allows these guns to be used in IDPA. Plus IDPA is an International organization so the same applies. I sometimes compete with a Brazil contract 586, which has the fractionally longer barrel.

To the OP, for convenience's sake, you can have a 6-shot cylinder fitted to your 686+ should you so desire - otherwise just load six and you're GTG. Also, as to a 625 recommendation, I went with a 625-8 PC. Check out the thread entitled: Best 45 ACP Revolver for IDPA, in this same section (Competition).

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You can only have a 4" barrel in IDPA. A 625 is a viable contender. Kind of big for concealed carry, but fine for the match. The 645 is a semi-auto.

I'm shooting a 4" 686 converted to .40 S&W. Smith has made these before, they are called 646.

Kind of hard to find and pricey, so I just made my own. Many of the .38 special or .357 6 shot guns work fine for IDPA too, and can be moonclipped.
Thanks for the correction my memory is OK just my typing is not so go. I planned on a 4" knowing not a 5" available and yes it is the 625 revolver I plan on and not an auto.

Do appreciate all the helpful comments from everyone
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IDPA does allow 7 & 8 shot revolvers, but the gun and all loading devices can only be loaded with 6 rounds. Means you have to index the empty chamber (in the OP's 686+) under the hammer when you reload.



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Pizza Bob is correct, however, having a 7 or 8 shot revolver and only loading 6 rounds complicates your reloads significantly. But it’s permitted & I stand corrected.
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