Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson General Topics > Smith & Wesson Knives & Collectables
o

Notices

Smith & Wesson Knives & Collectables Knives, Pellet Guns, Belt Buckles, and Accessories. Anything that isn't a Gun, Ammo, or Holster and has an S&W Logo.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-04-2015, 07:55 AM
Aussie Collector's Avatar
Aussie Collector Aussie Collector is online now
Member
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Victoria Australia
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 43
Liked 701 Times in 331 Posts
Default 1883 reproduction poster

I picked up a few posters recently and one has me a little stumped. I thought it was a reproduction, because of the price, its the 1883 poster the one with the loading tools and revolving rifle. A friend who is an antique dealer said, looking at the paper and print, its either a very old repro or original. When were the reproductions made and how do you tell them from an original. Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-04-2015, 09:30 AM
Club Gun Fan's Avatar
Club Gun Fan Club Gun Fan is offline
S&W Historian
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 5,942
Likes: 3,380
Liked 11,295 Times in 2,882 Posts
Default

What does the watermark read.
__________________
Don Mundell
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-04-2015, 12:45 PM
opoefc opoefc is offline
Absent Comrade
US Veteran
SWCA Founding Member
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: San Diego, CA. USA
Posts: 10,536
Likes: 3,529
Liked 6,883 Times in 2,796 Posts
Default

Jamie, Another clue to whether it's a repo, or not, is the later repos have a small break in the border line printing on the upper left side near the "M" in "Manufacturers" Ed.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-04-2015, 08:31 PM
Aussie Collector's Avatar
Aussie Collector Aussie Collector is online now
Member
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Victoria Australia
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 43
Liked 701 Times in 331 Posts
Default

Thanks, I knew you guys would know.
There is no water mark that I can see.
There is a small break in the border on the left of the "M" about an inch down.
It will have a place on the gun room wall, that's what I bought it for. thanks.
Cheers.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-04-2015, 11:24 PM
Club Gun Fan's Avatar
Club Gun Fan Club Gun Fan is offline
S&W Historian
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 5,942
Likes: 3,380
Liked 11,295 Times in 2,882 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie Collector View Post
Thanks, I knew you guys would know.
There is no water mark that I can see.
There is a small break in the border on the left of the "M" about an inch down.
It will have a place on the gun room wall, that's what I bought it for. thanks.
Cheers.
Jamie
Take a flashlight and put it on the back of the poster. Look for the word HAMMERMILL. That was one of the papers that was used in the 1960's.
__________________
Don Mundell
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-05-2015, 03:52 AM
Aussie Collector's Avatar
Aussie Collector Aussie Collector is online now
Member
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Victoria Australia
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 43
Liked 701 Times in 331 Posts
Default

I cannot find any watermarks. I can see with the torch the paper has a mottled leopard type look to it.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-05-2015, 10:10 AM
Club Gun Fan's Avatar
Club Gun Fan Club Gun Fan is offline
S&W Historian
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 5,942
Likes: 3,380
Liked 11,295 Times in 2,882 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie Collector View Post
I cannot find any watermarks. I can see with the torch the paper has a mottled leopard type look to it.
I believe that is an old way to give new paper an aged look.
__________________
Don Mundell
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-05-2015, 01:51 PM
opoefc opoefc is offline
Absent Comrade
US Veteran
SWCA Founding Member
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: San Diego, CA. USA
Posts: 10,536
Likes: 3,529
Liked 6,883 Times in 2,796 Posts
Default

Don is correct. Your poster's paper has had the "aged" treatment. That does not mean that anyone was trying to deceive, just to make it look like a better copy of the original. I have heard in years gone by that the "broken border" was intentionally made that way to quickly show the print was a repo., as otherwise it's a very convincing poster. Ed.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-06-2015, 05:38 AM
Aussie Collector's Avatar
Aussie Collector Aussie Collector is online now
Member
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Victoria Australia
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 43
Liked 701 Times in 331 Posts
Default

Thanks again.
I personally could not care if it was bright white paper, I want the print not the old look, the antique look is a bonus. If it was real it would probably get rolled up, placed in a crush proof tube, and locked in the safe.

I my loading room I have about 25 framed older Smith & Wesson advertisements. Sizes range from A5 to A3 with all of them coming from my printer, all from the web. The wall looks great and gets a few comments. Its the content and look that I also want from the poster.

Cheers.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg s-w add 21.JPG (147.1 KB, 38 views)
File Type: jpg s-w add 15.jpg (73.4 KB, 34 views)
File Type: jpg s-w add 14.jpg (147.1 KB, 32 views)
File Type: jpg s-w add 11.jpg (98.7 KB, 32 views)
File Type: jpg s-w add 8.jpg (55.5 KB, 30 views)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-06-2015, 08:11 AM
Club Gun Fan's Avatar
Club Gun Fan Club Gun Fan is offline
S&W Historian
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 5,942
Likes: 3,380
Liked 11,295 Times in 2,882 Posts
Default

Jamie
A person could make a collection of just pre-WWI ads. Those are great. You could call the collection, PPC "Pre Political Correctness".
__________________
Don Mundell
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-06-2015, 12:47 PM
opoefc opoefc is offline
Absent Comrade
US Veteran
SWCA Founding Member
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: San Diego, CA. USA
Posts: 10,536
Likes: 3,529
Liked 6,883 Times in 2,796 Posts
Default

Jamie, An even more impressive accumulation of S&W ads would be the Pre WW2 ads placed by the factory in foreign publications in Spanish, French, German, and possibly Portuguese languages, etc. I've never seen S&W factory ads in other languages, however some of the larger German Sporting Goods catalogs that had descriptions of their guns, including S&W, in various European & Middle Eastern languages. Ed.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-10-2015, 05:55 AM
Aussie Collector's Avatar
Aussie Collector Aussie Collector is online now
Member
1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster 1883 reproduction poster  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Victoria Australia
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 43
Liked 701 Times in 331 Posts
Default

Never seen the ads. I knew there were a couple of catalogs done for foreign markets. I have looked very hard for an Australian catalog however I dont think they exist. That horse company did produce some. I have a 50s Model Circular with the prices over-stamped in pound just not sure if its British or Australian.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1883 44-40 Frontier dickk S&W Antiques 5 02-09-2014 01:46 PM
S & W 1883 advertising circular leigh417 Smith & Wesson Knives & Collectables 2 05-30-2011 02:49 PM
Pawn Shop Find - .32 DA 3d Model 1883 .32 S&W Col Defender S&W Antiques 3 03-09-2010 08:52 AM
Karma Time. Camfour 681 poster & Lew Horton 681 Poster. smith41mag The Lounge 4 07-12-2009 11:45 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:19 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)