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06-06-2013, 11:24 PM
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S&W 30-06 question
New member here. As a kid, hunting with my father, I took my first deer with a Winchester 94 lever action in .32Special. I was probably 14 and in PA still had to have an adult with me. That was probably around 1968 or so. My mother used to sit with me while hunting. The 94 was his. Have it again now after he passed.
Around 1970, give or take a year, I was able to hunt in PA alone, without supervision. My father bought me a S&W rifle in a .30-06. Beautiful rifle, blonde finish. Took my second deer with that one.
Can anyone tell me what model rifle that might have been? I have looked around forums and really are not sure. I owned it until the mid 80's. My wife at the time was giving me **** about the kids finding it even though I had NO ammunition in the house. Ended up selling the rifle to a LGS. Later divorced her. Should have divorced her sooner and kept the rifle, but that is another story.
If anyone can give me an idea what model that was, sold around around 1969 or 1970. Bolt action and held several rounds. It had the bottom latch to open and empty the rifle, similar to what a Remington 700BDL is now.
Any help would be appreciated!
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06-07-2013, 12:53 AM
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Smith and Wesson model 1500 series....
This product line ended in the mid to late 80s. Howa manufacturing in Japan produced these fine firearms. I do not knpow if they were manufactured back to 1969 or so.
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06-07-2013, 01:12 AM
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If it was made 1969-70 it was probably the redesigned Husqvarna
action, the 800. Especially since you said the stock was blond. Most
of the original rifles built on the Mauser style action had dark stocks
of French walnut usually. Many of the rifles built on the HVA 800
action had blond stocks.
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06-07-2013, 01:23 AM
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The Howa manufactured S&W models 1500 and 1700 were not imported until 1981. S&W imported Husqvarna manufactured bolt actions 1969 to 1972. Tkdguy should have told his X his S&W/Husqvarna had been faithful longer than her and if she made him choose … well he figured that out on his own. Husqvarnas were a prestige Mauser based bolt action.
After being imported under a variety of trade names the Howas continued to be imported as the Weatherby Vanguard and under Howa’s own brand name. S&W was the first to import them and the first to name them “1500”. Some of the other importers used “1500” for a model name while other like Weatherby did not.
Edit to add: I see I wasn't the fastest typer. Oh well.
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06-07-2013, 09:31 PM
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Thanks. You have given me some great information. In researching further, would I have had a S&W Model A?
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06-07-2013, 10:43 PM
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The SCSW lists models A, B, C, D and E.
A. checkered Monte Carlo stock with rose wood fore end tip and pistol grip cap
B. European Monte Carlo stock with Schnabel fore end tip
C. not a Monte Carlo stock. Described as a sporting stock, what ever that would be
D&E. full length Mannlicher stock
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06-08-2013, 03:37 AM
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I have a md C in 30-06. It has the original Husqvarna Mauser type
action and it is just like a Husqvarna lightweight sporter. It has a
20 1/2" barrel with both front and rear sights and a French walnut
stock with a small cheek piece and straight comb with no raised
monte carlo hump.
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06-08-2013, 11:56 PM
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As I said on another thread, google Husqvarna 1640. It was a small ring mauser of the "improved" action type. I have my dad's made about '67.
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06-11-2013, 08:59 AM
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There were three S&W bolt actions that I have seen.
First was on a Husqvarna action that was clearly a modified Mauser, second was a new Husqvarna design with a lot of Remington in it but the odd dovetail shaped locking lugs, then the Howa guns. Which are remarkably similar to older Sakos.
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07-09-2013, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by vetman03
Thanks. You have given me some great information. In researching further, would I have had a S&W Model A?
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Hello vetman
Given the time period being back in 1969-1970 period your Rifle had to have been a Husqvarna, as they were the forunner's to the later made Model 1500 Japanese made Howa Brand rifles that S&W Marketed as well. Now in the time period that you mentioned there were Two Husqvarna actions being made. The earlier one was what is called the Model 1640 action. It had a floor plate style drop magazine push fed bullet design action & in 30-06 caliber it held four cartridges in it's drop box design and one chambered making the rifle a five shot gun and was a In House Husqvarna machined scaled down Version small Ring Mauser style action. Husqvarna also supplied the scope rings with these actions in high Polished blue that can not be found easily any more in the U.S.A. In mid 1967 time span The Husqvarna development Team got together and came out with a new style action that was called the model 1970 Monte-carlo Improved action being the model 1900 action. This gun had a refined 1640 action with a smoother Polished more positive ramp feed, fully adjustable trigger for Creep as well as tension let off and a more positive locking lug added to it's bolt. It was Produced from 1967-1970 To dissifer which is which in these actions is pretty easy as the Model 1900 action drop floor plate had an engraved feature not found on the earlier made 1640 actions. The later made model 1900 action rifles branded S&W are far harder to locate than the earlier 1640 made rifles. The Model -A was the one with the most bells and whistles as it came with a High Figured French walnut stock with rosewood embelished for-grip. The checking was fine line and there was a slight finger groove along the forward portion of the stock. It had a Monte carlo style designed stock with a slight roll over Cheek piece and slight Palm swell to it's pistol grip area finished in a high gloss urethane. Below is my 1967 S&W Model 1640 action Husqvarna rifle. it is chambered in 30-06 and had a period correct Redfield wide view 3-9 variable power scope on it. I hope this helps, here is a link to much information on the Husky rifles, They were Trully a Super High quality gun that no one has ever been able to duplicate their quaility then nor since. Sadly the Husqvarna gun factory closed it's doors for good, but they left behind a very high quality rifle that we lust over and scour to locate. Regards, Hammerdown
http://www.skydevaaben.com/index.xml
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