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Old 05-21-2022, 09:56 AM
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I recently purchased a Model 1000 12ga at a gun show. The seller did not have any owners manual and could only tell me he thinks his father purchased it in the late 70's. I am just curious if he is correct in manufacture time and what exact model I have, should I be looing in a certain area for other stampings? I hope someone can help me figure out exactly what I have.
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I assume your model is a 1000 semi-automatic. They also produced a Model 1000P pump. In either case, the guns were manufactured in Japan by Howa in the 1970’s and early 1980’s so your timeline is probably correct. Most people believe the quality is quite good, and the guns bear a striking resemblance to some Remington shotguns (the 870, for example).
I believe the Model 1000 semi-auto model number was subsequently changed to 3000.
You might try a Google search for additional information.
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Old 05-22-2022, 10:39 PM
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Thank you for the information, it is a semi-automatic and is stamped manufactured in japan to S&W specifications. i will look through the manuals posts to find the correct one for me , this is my first semi-auto shotgun and i want to disassemble inspect and clean and lube before range time . I will also Google search to see if I can get a date breakdown of the serial number . Again Thank you.
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The pump action shotgun made by Howa for Smith & Wesson became the Model 3000. The semi auto shotgun was always the Model 1000. They do look a lot like the Remington shotguns, but i don't think any parts will interchange, except maybe the S&W 3000 (pump) and the Remington 870 stocks.
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I was also going to say, I believe your gun and the Model 3000 pumps were made by Howa, so quality should be quite good. Mossberg picked these up after S&W dropped them so a Mossberg manual might also be helpful. I'm sure a Google search will yield a manual, either a PDF or maybe off of Fleabay.
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I have a 3000, bought new in 84. Looks like and is as reliable as the 870. When working in Alaska and having too much time my hands, I needlessly Cerakoted it in matte black. Turned out nice, but wished I would have left it alone.
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Model 3000 & 1000 Shotgun, 1500 & 1700 Rifle Manuals

They are good shotguns. You do need to check the piston shock absorber, No.27 in the exploded view of the S&W manual, it is a rubber washer that has a tendency to turn to goo and gum up the works. New ones can be acquired here: Piston Shock Absorber, 12 Ga., New Reproduction | Gun Parts Corp.

The S&W Model 1000 semi-auto was manufactured for S&W from 1972 to 1984.

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Congratulations on your purchase! I also have a Model 1000, had it since I was a child. It's a good shotgun, but like ko41 said you'll need to check the piston shock absorber. If the gun has been shot any at all then more than likely it's not in great shape. I believe the original shock absorbers weren't resistant to cleaning lubricants and they turned to goo. The replacement shock absorbers are supposed to be better. So even if the shock absorber in the shotgun looks ok, I would probably go ahead and replace it anyway. I just replaced mine and one in another Model 1000 for someone else. Mine was completely gone with just a black goo in it's place. The other one was still there, but broken into pieces. It's a very easy process. There is a youtube video that shows complete disassembly and reassembly which makes it even easier.

Just curious. Mind if I ask how much you paid for the shotgun?
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Congratulations on your purchase! I also have a Model 1000, had it since I was a child. It's a good shotgun, but like ko41 said you'll need to check the piston shock absorber. If the gun has been shot any at all then more than likely it's not in great shape. I believe the original shock absorbers weren't resistant to cleaning lubricants and they turned to goo. The replacement shock absorbers are supposed to be better. So even if the shock absorber in the shotgun looks ok, I would probably go ahead and replace it anyway. I just replaced mine and one in another Model 1000 for someone else. Mine was completely gone with just a black goo in it's place. The other one was still there, but broken into pieces. It's a very easy process. There is a youtube video that shows complete disassembly and reassembly which makes it even easier.

Just curious. Mind if I ask how much you paid for the shotgun?
Great advice in this post. I got mine as a Christmas present in '82. I've kept it in nice shape, but hadn't used it in about 30 years. I did some research and found that the shock absorber had turned into a glob of tar. It took some cleaning to get the remnants out, but I managed to get it clean and install the new one. I ran a box of target loads through it - with the only malfunction being a failure to extract/eject on the first round. It ran flawlessly after that.

The Model 1000 is a really nice shotgun. Not much recoil to speak of and (when properly serviced) performs nicely.

Congrats on your purchase.
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I paid $275, it was my early birthday present from my wife.
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Sounds like a good price!

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1000 was 23/4” shells
1000m was 2 3/4” & 3” with adjustments ie high to low power
1000 super will shoot anything with no adjustments because of a different gas system but be advised super barrels will not interchange with the 1000m or 1000

The 1000super didn’t have the gas seal problems as the others or shall I say usually didn’t .
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