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9mm 46 44.66%
40 17 16.50%
45 35 33.98%
10mm 35 33.98%
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Old 03-02-2023, 08:19 PM
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What calibers would you like to see the new M&P FPC offered in? Check all that apply.

The only one I would buy is the 9mm version currently being offered. Ammo for 9mm is relatively inexpensive and I have 9mm M&P magazines. But I can understand people that are 40 and 45 fans wanting one in those calibers.

But I don't think a 10mm version would be a good idea. It would take a very heavy bolt and spring to make a reliable blowback 10mm PCC. If I need more power than than 9, 40 or 45 can provide I would rather have a gas operated gun like an AR chambered in a rifle caliber.
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Old 03-02-2023, 09:16 PM
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I have a 9mm PCC that accepts my Glock magazines with my Ruger and I'm perfectly happy with that combination. If Smith were to bring out the FPC in .45acp then they would get to sell me the carbine and an M&P pistol to share mags. Hear me S&W, it'd be a twofer!
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Old 03-03-2023, 09:41 AM
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I tried adding 30 SC and 380 to the poll but didn't see a way to do so.
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Old 03-03-2023, 10:14 AM
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I know it's a small sample size, but i love that only 1/3 picked 9mm. Am I the only one who hates that 9mm seems to be darn near the only option for everything anymore? I like 9mm. It's a great cartridge, but it's like that hit song on the radio that you hear 4 times a day until you hate, hate, hate its guts.
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I know it's a small sample size, but i love that only 1/3 picked 9mm. Am I the only one who hates that 9mm seems to be darn near the only option for everything anymore? I like 9mm. It's a great cartridge, but it's like that hit song on the radio that you hear 4 times a day until you hate, hate, hate its guts.
I understand what you are saying, but as I only own a 9mm M&P, there's only one way I can vote.
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I'm one of the unwashed/unclean that still likes a 40 s&w, so it got my vote. A 45 is also a favorite of mine. I would buy a 9mm, but my Camp 9 handles that chore very well right now.

I still remember waiting (somewhat unpatiently) for the 45 Shield to come out. It's a keeper and is carried more than anything else I own. But I'd still like a 40 in a carbine.
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When they build one without the folding stock feature then, and only then, will I worry about what caliber(s) they're producing.
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Old 03-15-2023, 06:20 PM
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I traded for one two days ago. The owners manual mentions a 40 S&W model as well as 9mm. Wonder if this was a mistake in printing?

I switched the mag release button to the right side even though I am right handed. I did send an email to an AR stock builder to see if they would be interested in making a thinner rear stock. I offered to lend them mine for a pattern.

I traded in (even up) for a like new Ruger LC Carbine (5.7 x 24). The Sig Romeo5 red dot I had on the Ruger now sits on the FPC. The Ruger folding stock was a PITA to open. The S&W system is great. I have owned two KelTec folding 9mm rifles and I like the FPC much better.

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Old 03-23-2023, 08:08 PM
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BRIEF RANGE REPORT

Shot about 30 rounds of 115 gr ball and 147 gr hp Federal today with no hiccups.

I never touched that Romeo5 red dot that I simply transferred from my Ruger to this gun. This is the first 5 rounds at about 15 yards. I think I am really going to like this gun.



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I want it in .40S&W as that is what most of my carry guns are. But I don’t expect that to happen.
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I want it in .40S&W as that is what most of my carry guns are. But I don’t expect that to happen.
It's so refreshing to see that other people still like 40 like I do. Most of the time, if .40S&W is brought up, it's to knock it or say that it's a dying caliber. Thank God I'm not the only odd ball(though the only gun I actually carry is a .45).
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The manual that came with my FPC indicated several calibers, the one I'd like to add is the 5.7x28. It would make a great truck/SUV gun out here in coyote/fox/bobcat country.
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It's so refreshing to see that other people still like 40 like I do. Most of the time, if .40S&W is brought up, it's to knock it or say that it's a dying caliber. Thank God I'm not the only odd ball(though the only gun I actually carry is a .45).
Some think everyone needs to shoot what they are shooting, I’m not one of those. There are a lot of people that carry M&P’s using .40S&W and .45ACP. You would think all three would be their target market. Maybe we will both get the caliber we want.
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The manual that came with my FPC indicated several calibers, the one I'd like to add is the 5.7x28. It would make a great truck/SUV gun out here in coyote/fox/bobcat country.

If we’re going that far, I'd like to see more systems in this format use the 7.5FK.

But I don't know if 7.5FK could be adapted to simple blowback due to the high pressure.


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I tried adding 30 SC and 380 to the poll but didn't see a way to do so.

Actually 30 super carry might be pretty good.

It's a very high pressure round and might keep accelerating in that 16" barrel.

Plus what, 20% more ammo per mag?


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Dang, I keep on hoping to see the 45 catch up to the 9.
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I would like to see a 10mm carbine..
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If we’re going that far, I'd like to see more systems in this format use the 7.5FK.

But I don't know if 7.5FK could be adapted to simple blowback due to the high pressure.


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I'D LIKE TO SEE IT COME WITH FACTORY OPEN SIGHTS
HAVING TO SPEND A BENJAMIN ON SIGHTS JUST TO MAKE IT SHOOTABLE IS A NON STARTER FOR ME-defeats the whole purpose of a fold up truck gun
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I have the 9mm. Would like to see a 10mm and 5.7.

.357 Sig would be good, but it's not going to happen.
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The 40 because I already have the caliber and don’t wish to add more. 40 10mm and 45 all have one round capability to disable a threat which is what I would want in this platform and staying in pistol calibers. That being said, I usually carry a 9 as opposed to a 40. The 40 10 and 45 are just too big and heavy when loaded for CCW for routine carry (IMO) Used to carry .380 in the summer(switched kimber micro 9) but .380 is really too light and needs two rounds in the chest.
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I've had a Marlin Camp 45 since the 90's and would like more mag capacity than an 8 shot 1911.

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I be the spoiler for a handgun cartridge carbine . 9mm works well with the given bullet and load choices a variable from ammo companis to home loads and if I want a cartridge that is more capable than my m&p 40sw handgun I'll have ar15 in a rifle cartridge . Maybe a 10" braced pistol version or a carbine .
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It's so refreshing to see that other people still like 40 like I do. Most of the time, if .40S&W is brought up, it's to knock it or say that it's a dying caliber. Thank God I'm not the only odd ball(though the only gun I actually carry is a .45).
The 40 isn't a dying caliber to me. It's a very efficient caliber, ammo is a little high, but 40 police turn ins are cheap in S&W or Glock. I've killed several deer with a 40 and if they go down so does a lot of other stuff. If you get in a s**** against a 18 round 9 mm and you have a 16 round 40 I think you have an advantage. Many law enforcement agencies are going to 9mm citing new and improved ammo. That ain't the reason. Many more ladies are entering law enforcement and they shoot the nines easier. Not knocking the ladies because my late wife was a LEO back in the revolver days. She carried a .38 special because she could handle it better than a .357.
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The 40 isn't a dying caliber to me. It's a very efficient caliber, ammo is a little high, but 40sw police turn ins are cheap in S&W or Glock. I've killed several deer with a 40 and if they go down so does a lot of other stuff. If you get in a s**** against a 18 round 9 mm and you have a 16 round 40 I think you have an advantage. Many law enforcement agencies are going to 9mm citing new and improved ammo. That ain't the reason. Many more ladies are entering law enforcement and they shoot the nines easier. Not knocking the ladies because my late wife was a LEO back in the revolver days. She carried a .38 special because she could handle it better than a .357.
Don't over look the softer men joining LE departments that have zero firearm experience before hand 40sw can keep some softies from shooting well enough . So the heavier pistols and small 9mm softer recoiling cartridge can make the handgun more shootable many times for the worse with mag dumps being seen in videos far to often .

Now if only the mental state of officers can be tested so we have less chance of be shot at and ether wounded or killed do the poor quality of to many officers .

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40S&W, .45ACP and 9MM are the most popular defensive handgun calibers know to man. We shouldn’t have to be arguing about which one is better. Our Smith & Wesson handguns are in this caliber, so it only makes sense they would give us these calibers in a PCC.

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40S&W, .45ACP and 9MM are the most popular defensive handgun calibers know to man. We shouldn’t have to be arguing about which one is better. Our Smith & Wesson handguns are in this caliber, so it only makes sense they would give us these calibers in a PCC.

Smith & Wesson has been in Tennessee long enough now to step up and stop acting like girly men.

Globally I wouldn't be surprised if 380 wasn't more popular than 40.


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I voted .45. I'm good with 9mm as it's available from cheap range 115 gr. to NATO 124 to 147 gr. truncated bullets and a hundred great SD loads.
But .45 in a carbine is a lot of fun, owned several in the past.
I also shoot .40 s&w, 10mm, .357sig and .380.
.357sig would probably have the best long range performance and 10mm has a lot of energy but you'd be surprised how accurate big ol' 230 gr ball can be. Way cheaper than .357sig & 10mm.
I do miss the days when most new 9mms came in a .40 variant too. But going to .45 or 10mm usually requires beefing up everything which requires a fresh design.
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Ruger just did exactly that with their LC carbine. Went from 5.7 to 45 acp. Granted this is not an apples to apples comparison as 5.7 is longer than 9mm or .40, but it produces much. Less recoil energy than either. It may be more hassle than making it in .40, but it is certainly doable. Add that to the fact that there are a lot of us that prefer our calibers to start with a 4 and they got reason to make it.
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45 ACP gains basically zero velocity in longer than pistol length barrels. There's basically no point in it.

BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: Results

40 does gain a bit but doesn't accelerate much past about 12" of barrel.

BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: .40 S&W Results

If it was possible to do a rimless 327 mag that would be excellent as it can get up to that magic 2000 fps range where you're doing rifle-like damage in soft tissue when pushing through longer barrels.

BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: .327 Mag Results

There are some very light 9mm rounds that can get closer as well.

If you really want a bigger bullet, the magnum loads would really be where its at.


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Not sure what you are looking at. Some of the rounds listed in the real world tests are up to 200+ FPS more. I'll take that every day. You have a really good round and you make it a little better. Who would not want that?
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Not sure what you are looking at. Some of the rounds listed in the real world tests are up to 200+ FPS more. I'll take that every day. You have a really good round and you make it a little better. Who would not want that?

True, but most loads go from very slow to still subsonic or just barely supersonic.

Needing 10" of extra barrel to gain just a couple hundred fps and still doing basically the same or even possibly worse terminal performance just isn't worth the increase in size, weight, recoil, and decrease in magazine capacity.


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You need fewer bullets with a 45 I am not sure you get much more with a 9 or 40/10. I think all will be only a couple hundred FPS greater. They currently have 23 round mags for the FPC and Response. So with a 45 they will get 15-18. I am sure that someone out there will make 30 round mags like a Tommy gun.

still would like to have a 45 in Metal and FPC. Fun to shoot and would be a great home defense weapon. I don't think anyone has ever complained about being shot by a 45, it so it was a very short and quick complaint.
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I voted for the .45 FPC. I just prefer .45 and since I own a bunch of them I have lots of .45 ammo on hand. If they offered a .45 FPC I’d buy one, and a M&P .45 pistol to go with it. I’d also definitely buy a .357 Sig FPC, but I know that won’t be happening. I will also second the request to include iron sights with the FPC. It’s not asking too much for the gun to come with simple iron sights so a Luddite like me can shoot it right out of the box.

Two of my friends have the 9mm FPC, and both purchased M&P 9 pistols to go with the FPC because the mags work in both. S&W is certainly selling a bunch of the FPC’s based on how fast they disappear off the shelf around here.
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Not sure about the 357 Sig but, I am down with the 45. I would be getting a 45 Metal and either a FPC or the Response in 45. If S&W was really thinking outside the box, they was sell matching pairs in some kind of a Spec package. Just sayin. Sell like hot cakes.

As long as wishes are free, would be kinda fun to try a FPC in 400 Corbon.
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Not sure about the 357 Sig but, I am down with the 45. I would be getting a 45 Metal and either a FPC or the Response in 45. If S&W was really thinking outside the box, they was sell matching pairs in some kind of a Spec package. Just sayin. Sell like hot cakes.

As long as wishes are free, would be kinda fun to try a FPC in 400 Corbon.

A matching set of spec FPC and M&P would indeed be pretty awesome.

I love the look of the spec bull shark grey.

Does Smith still do work with Kyle Lamb? An FDE VTAC matching set would be pretty sick as well.


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I think you might be on to something there; S&W packaging a matching pair, with serial numbers of xxxR and xxxP, that sort of thing. I can certainly imagine them selling more of the pistol models with that additional option.
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Looks like no 40S&W yet. I sent an email to S&W about 40S&W for a Shield Plus, as I thought it was surely in the works. They emailed me back that they are only offering girlymen calibers, and have no plans to offer anything else in the Shield Plus. I forgot to ask them about this.

BTW… why is 9mm even a choice in the poll. You ladies already have that caliber.


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I was looking at the pole and something is off with the percent's. You add them up and it comes out to 128%. Um, am I missing something?
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I was looking at the pole and something is off with the percent's. You add them up and it comes out to 128%. Um, am I missing something?
Respondents can select multiple calibers. It appears the percentage given for results isn't the percent of total responses, but the percentage of respondents who selected that caliber, possibly along with other caliber(s). Best guess.
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