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I think ive had my 15-22 about a month now. 1500 rounds that were flawless except for the first mag which i didn't load correctly.
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Nikon Buckmaster 3x9x40 with low rings and 1/2" riser.
Bushnell TRS-25 red dot on a Yankee Hill 45 degree mount.
Barrel shroud from the DIY thread here.
UTG butt pad.
CAA cheek rest/saddle.
CAA Rail covers.
Under barrel red laser.
Hogue mini universal grip cover.
This has been a fun gun as my "Work" guns i use for ccw and HD i don't add things or change them.
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The second set of pics.
I really like the Nikon and Bushnell setup even tho its not the most popular way to do optics.
I can still hold a good cheek weld and tilt the gun a few degrees and go from 100' shots too 15' shots with no changes or issues.
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That's a really nice set up, very close to what my plans have been for awhile now. I have both an M&P 15OR and 15-22. On my 5.56 I have a Leupold Mark AR 3-9X40 and I've been wanting to add a small reddot to it for close range stuff too. I've considered using the Daniel Defense 1 o'clock offset mount or the YH 45 degree mount you've got. Question: I'm using extra high mounts on my Leupy and am wondering if I could get either of these mounts to fit under the main tube of the scope to bring the reddot up closer to the sight plane? Also, this would bring the reddot closer to my eyes but I don't know if this is necessary or not, I see yours is mounted clear out on the fore-rail. Does it make any difference when using as small of a reddot as the TR-25 is?
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You mention that yours is not the most popular way to do optics. What makes you say that? I think its pretty sweet giving you the best of both worlds.
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Ive tried 1" risers with tall rings and the YH mount wont allow my to attach it under the scope. It would bring it closer to the eye ,Yet it will be further from the barrel axis. That is a big issue when your talking close range shots. I don't like high mounts, Nor high rings and this is as about as high as i can go with the scope and it be acceptable to me.
I have tall rings which are perfect and about 1/4" lower than this setup, But i loose alot of flexibility in ring placement and keeping them on the receiver and off the barrels mounts. I dont mind a 1/4" higher sacrifice from more flexibility.
The DD 1 o'clock may allow you to mount under the scope, I cant say for sure. But im pretty sure you may need more clearance.
Id say it would be better or just as good as what i have if you went that route off the for-grip.
Having it further from the eye actually makes it easier to pick up targets faster as your seeing "everything" first and then the red dot.
It looks like its sticking further out than it really is, I can tilt the gun just slightly and my plane stays the same from scope too sight.
When i first considered this plan i thought "Great, now the guys at the range will think im shooting my rifle "Gangsta" style" but the tilt is so slight its no where like laying the gun on its side.
They make 1" scope mount ring with a weaver end so you can mount your sight off the scope, But that throws the sight into a big tilt which is hard to sight in as it will put it at 90 degree too almost 180 degree's. Mounting on top of the scope is really bad since the bore axis is so far away close shots will have to be compensated for alot when you go past the sighted in mark.
"Edit" I went back and looked at the DD mount and it does extend out alot further from the rail than the YHM mount i used, So if there is a chance of mounting under the scope that mount would be the one to try. Looking at it tho it may also have more angle to it once its layed flat on the top rail, It wasnt designed to work that way and 10 degrees is not the angle it will produce from there. Id guess it would have a 60 degree angle when laid flat, Making a not so good option.
The YHM mount is 45 degrees no matter which way its turned so it worked out well for me.
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You mention that yours is not the most popular way to do optics. What makes you say that? I think its pretty sweet giving you the best of both worlds.
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I too think it gives the best of both worlds also, But there are so many options out there that you don't see this style much.
I wanted to shoot past 50' and with my bad eyes a 1x red dot thats my max range. I didn't like the magnifier route as you have to take it on and off or swing it to the side and back.
So either i bought a $1200 ACOG or a scope, That was an easy decision.
I see options of mounting on top of the scope with their red dots which is the worst way possible imo.
But again i mainly said that as you don't see optics done this way alot, But i love it.
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Ok guys, this is my first post. I've been lurking in this forum a while and have to say that I learned much about how this rifle works (or not) and accessories for it before even getting my hands on one! I knew how to disassemble it, clean it, do a trigger job and so many thing that when I made the decision to go and get one I knew exactly what I was getting into!
I wanted a rifle to use in competition (steel challange and even two gun) and it has been fun. I do have to say that I was getting plenty of FTFs but when it worked it was great to shoot. I lost my last match due to the rifle failing in the last two stages (seven total) and that's when I decided to send it back to S&W.
I have to say that the rifle was there maybe two days, it took a little over a week to get there and back (this was just last week) and I got it with the new specs (blue springs) and two new magazines! I took it to the range yesterday for a quick test and shot 4 mags as fast as I could press the trigger and 100 round went down the pipe faster than I could say "S&W M&P15-22 Rifle" no issues what so ever. Then I fired 200 more round with new and old mags and 100% reliable!! so things are looking good so far.
Sorry about the long post but this is the first one and wanted to express my gratitude to all of you that have made comments on this rifle, good or bad!! you always learn from both sides of the story...
Anyways this is a picture thread and...this is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
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Welcome to the forum. Glad to hear that Smith took care of you.
Nice Pix too
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DasFriek, I must say that is one of the best homemade pvc shrouds I have seen so far. Everyone else wraps tape around it and that seems to make it look like a kid made it for a toy.
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The key was a light sanding and then a plastic specific flat matte rattle can spray job.
I also started with black pvc so if it gets scratched it wont show.
Im glad everyone likes the looks of my toy, And its functioned just as well also.
I gotta admit, Im considering a real suppressor and call this toy done as a project and just shoot and enjoy it from here on out.
I do like those angled fore grips which wouldn't make the gun look over done and be usefull, But i generally shoot off a bench but with spring coming that wont hold true.
I think i mentioned i have my "Work" guns for CCW and HD wich i dont accessorize or mess with and keep them stock for reliability reasons. So this .22 has been my creative outlet.
Im thinking of a Ruger Charger to trick out next, Or add a .22 rimfire kit for my 1911.
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[QUOTE=sneaky223;1239087]This is something I tried with some paint, it turned out pretty good.
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looks really tactical and sharp!! nice paint job!
i've done camo pain on 2 xd handguns and they are awesome too!
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I finally got out to sight in my 3x9. It's actually only the 3rd time shooting the gun itself and the first time I've ever sighted in a scope but I think I did okay.
The left image, 3 corners is at 25 yards where I started sighting in. The right image was then at 50 yards; I need more practice there.
I get 1 FTF (where the bullet stands up in the magazine) about every 50 rounds. I only have about 600 rounds through it so maybe she's still getting warmed up.
Still very happy with it.
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I finally got out to sight in my 3x9. It's actually only the 3rd time shooting the gun itself and the first time I've ever sighted in a scope but I think I did okay.
The left image, 3 corners is at 25 yards where I started sighting in. The right image was then at 50 yards; I need more practice there.
I get 1 FTF (where the bullet stands up in the magazine) about every 50 rounds. I only have about 600 rounds through it so maybe she's still getting warmed up.
Still very happy with it.
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50 yard pics are on par with most others who have posted results with their 15-22.
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nvm I know what it is Springfield XD, nice pics though
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This may be my new setup for a while.
3-9x + Holosight + MBUS.
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If my photo posting skill are working this is my 15-22. Red dot with 3x magnifier, MUBUS, CAA bipod, Houge grip and a muzzle device of my own design.Also LaRue index clips on the quad rail.
The target is from several weeks ago using the red dot w/o the magnifier. One shot each bull at 50' from a bench rest. I doubt I will be able to duplicate the feat.
LTC
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If my photo posting skill are working this is my 15-22. Red dot with 3x magnifier, MUBUS, CAA bipod, Houge grip and a muzzle device of my own design.
The target is from several weeks ago using the red dot w/o the magnifier. One shot each bull at 50' from a bench rest. I doubt I will be able to duplicate the feat.
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Awesome!!!! That Bi-pod is expensive, I was looking at buying one but have figured out which one yet.
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Heres my work in progress. Havent shot it yet. My riser for the scope will be here today.
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I personally find it kinda funny how many "here's all my mods, haven't fired it yet" posts there are in this thread ...
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I personally find it kinda funny how many "here's all my mods, haven't fired it yet" posts there are in this thread ...
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I totally agree. First thing I did was put the red dot on it, second thing I did was shoot it!!
Since then I've gone crazy buying all the upgrades I wanted for it but I continue to shoot it as much, and as often, as possible while I wait for the various parts to arrive. I put another 350 rounds through it again last night. Shoots great and I cannot wait until I get everything installed on it.
You guys need to get out and shoot! Don't wait for it to be "done" or else you'll never actually use it!!
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1500+ rounds through mine here in the cold, snowy NE. I made sure it worked statisfactorly before I invested in accessories and doubled its price. I have been putting about 200 rounds a week through it.
It goes to the range every time I do.
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Kinda hard to shoot when the ranges are closed due to snow.
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I suppose that's true. Where I shoot, we can open up and use the range when we want (within given hours) so I guess I have it lucky. However, a couple times I have had to trudge through a couple feet of snow just to get to the gate and then shovel out a bench and shooting lane in order to shoot.
Of course, I grew up routinely shoveling out an entire hockey rink by myself in order to skate so I guess I'm used to it. I love living in Wisconsin.
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I never said I was going to wait til it was done to shoot it. I just havent had the chance to go yet. Believe me, I am dying to go shoot!
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Ive had mine to the local indoor range 4x in the short 30 days ive owned mine and thats limited too 75' and if some people remember my thread was why i had such a hard time sighting mine in.
Spring, Bring it on!
Even at 75' it was no challenge with this gun and my optics, And ive seen people ask about upgraded barrels already. My gun will out shoot me or the .22lr round will be the limit before the barrel becomes an issue.
Who has one of these installed?
TheGunSource: BSA Optics Sights & Lasers BSA Laser Genetics ND3 Green Laser Designator, LG-ND3,
I dont have a "real" use for one but would be cool to have and try.
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Ive had mine to the local indoor range 4x in the short 30 days ive owned mine and thats limited too 75' and if some people remember my thread was why i had such a hard time sighting mine in.
Spring, Bring it on!
Even at 75' it was no challenge with this gun and my optics, And ive seen people ask about upgraded barrels already. My gun will out shoot me or the .22lr round will be the limit before the barrel becomes an issue.
Who has one of these installed?
TheGunSource: BSA Optics Sights & Lasers BSA Laser Genetics ND3 Green Laser Designator, LG-ND3,
I dont have a "real" use for one but would be cool to have and try.
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dude i want one... rabbits beware
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Right, I have a midway coupon (105028104) and I heard belt_fed is working a new prototype ,,,,,,,,,I'll give you two days, tops
Silverado Gun show is this weekend
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Here are a couple pictures of how my 15-22 is progressing. I'm still waiting on some more parts to arrive (backorders suck!) but I think it's coming along nicely. Very fun gun to shoot and accessorize!
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Stock and sling first, then I'll move on to the other rails.
I'm also waiting to get the FTS mount in and then I'll probably put the magnifier back on. Hopefully it will sit just slightly lower than the it does with the factory ring because it doesn't quite line up with the scope as is.
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Here are a couple pictures of how my 15-22 is progressing. I'm still waiting on some more parts to arrive (backorders sucks!) but I think it's coming along nicely. Very fun gun to shoot and accessorize!
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What is your bi-pod and what is it's size (max and min. length), also when it's extended how far is your mag from the ground?
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What is your bi-pod and what is it's size (max and min. length), also when it's extended how far is your mag from the ground?
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It's a Harris 1A2 Bipod. I believe that it's a 6" to 9". It was given to me by my girlfriend's younger brother as he decided he no longer needed it. Score! I'm heading to the range again tonight, I'll try and see how far it holds a mag off the ground and let you know.
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It's a Harris 1A2 Bipod. I believe that it's a 6" to 9". It was given to me by my girlfriend's younger brother as he decided he no longer needed it. Score! I'm heading to the range again tonight, I'll try and see how far it holds a mag off the ground and let you know.
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Awesome, could you also get some pics of it with the it standing on the bi-pod with the mag. and it fully extended?
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hey guys! i'm new to the forum and i am LOVING my new m&P 15-22. i ordered one in the month of December using s&w's military discount and it finally came in! so i was looking to add stuff to mine and i came across this pic...what and where can i get what's in that red square below...some sort of grip right? thanks!
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hey guys! i'm new to the forum and i am LOVING my new m&P 15-22. i ordered one in the month of December using s&w's military discount and it finally came in! so i was looking to add stuff to mine and i came across this pic...what and where can i get what's in that red circle below...some sort of grip right? thanks!
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i believe that is a mako magwell grip. search google, you can get them all over the place.
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i believe that is a mako magwell grip. search google, you can get them all over the place.
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that's it! thanks for the fast response!! i'll get some pics up of mine when i get the chance....
anyone know how it fits on our 15-22? i read some reviews and they were saying it doesn't fit and others said they had to do some trimming....any suggestions?
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that's it! thanks for the fast response!! i'll get some pics up of mine when i get the chance....
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I need to post a pic or two, also. As you accessorize, I think you'll be surprised at how "standard" the 15-22 seems to be. I replaced the pistol grip with a Hogue, and the stock pistol grip I removed from the 15-22 looks almost exactly like the stock grip on my Bushmaster M4. Even the same Torx screw. (Others have suggested it is hex, so there may be various screw types being used. )
If you replace the buttstock, note that the 15-22 uses Mil-Spec sized stock (1.15" dia.). My Bushmaster is commercial (1.17" dia.) I put a Magpul CTR on the Bushmaster, and would definitely consider it or the MOE for the 15-22. You should be able to find both sizes for most every aftermarket stock.
I did add a CenterPoint red/green optic, and very pleased so far. Found it at Walmart for $50.
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Awesome, could you also get some pics of it with the it standing on the bi-pod with the mag. and it fully extended?
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Here you go. With the legs extended and the gun roughly parallel to the ground the mag has about 1.5" - 2" of clearance. I didn't think to actually measure it at the time as I was a bit rushed with the fading light by the time I got to the range so I'm just estimating based upon the pictures.
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Here you go. With the legs extended and the gun roughly parallel to the ground the mag has about 1.5" - 2" of clearance. I didn't think to actually measure it at the time as I was a bit rushed with the fading light by the time I got to the range so I'm just estimating based upon the pictures.
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Awesome, thanks for the pics. That's enough clearance for me. Now I can look for a bi-pod. That really helped my decision.
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Awesome, thanks for the pics. That's enough clearance for me. Now I can look for a bi-pod. That really helped my decision.
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No problem. Glad I could help.
One note in case you are interested in the Harris Bipods. The one I have attaches to a sling swivel stud so I had to buy one that would attach to the rail. I found one at a local shop that I believe is made by Mako. It seems rather solid and was made to work specifically with the Harris Bipods as the molding fits it perfectly. I haven't looked so I'm not sure if they make a model that will attach directly to the rail but it's something to keep in mind.
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I think I am going with the Harris/LaRue quick detach. It's probably the most expensive route, but I can use it on anything with a rail so I can sort-of justify the cost. I don't like the UTG Bi-Pod I am currently using, but it was VERY cheap!
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I think I am going with the Harris/LaRue quick detach. It's probably the most expensive route, but I can use it on anything with a rail so I can sort-of justify the cost. I don't like the UTG Bi-Pod I am currently using, but it was VERY cheap!
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Nice, I might have to pick up that LaRue quick detach mount for mine! Currently I just take the bipod off and leave the mount attached since the bipod removes easily by hand. However, I would really like to be able to remove the whole thing quickly without tools.
Just when you think you're done... there's always another part that you find and want!!
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For a $171 id pay a girl in a bikini to follow me around and hold my barrel for me.
Man thats alot of money for .22 accessory, But what ever floats your boat. I don't mind putting that much into my optics as it gives me more for the buck, And id be just as happy with a $50 bi pod.
I cant wait to see who Gold plates their gun first on here.
I don't have much room to point fingers at people for buying stuff, I too have more in accessories than i paid for my gun also. Its fun!
But i just don't have bi-pod priorities like that.
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Keep in mind that many of the people on here also have standard AR's with which they can and do swap accessories. So sure, it might be $171 for a bipod/mount... But that doesn't mean it's only for the .22.
I myself don't have a .223 AR yet... but I'll admit that I've made some of the purchases for my 15-22 based upon the fact that someday I will and can then swap them over to that.
However, there are people who just really like the .22 platform. This will be my 2nd .22 rifle that I've spent more than a grand on. My 10/22 has still cost me a good deal more to build than what I have invested into my 15-22 and all of those parts are dedicated solely to that gun and nothing else. I feel less "guilty" about buying parts for the 15-22 knowing that I'll get greater use out of them down the road.
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Yeah I can't see spending that for JUST the 15-22 but there will likely be a M&P 15 or a Bushmaster in the collection soon. My accessories will be shared.
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[QUOTE=Brett248Vista;135361486]Just wanted to show some more recent photos. I became an official member of the Crayola™ Club last night.
Does having your mags coupled like that not block your ejecting brass??
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brett, if you're gonna tease us with a 5.56 suppressor you should at least show us what it goes on. i know it doesn't work on either gun you had in the photo op. come on man, show and tell.
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Originally Posted by ArcaneFlame
Keep in mind that many of the people on here also have standard AR's with which they can and do swap accessories. So sure, it might be $171 for a bipod/mount... But that doesn't mean it's only for the .22.
I myself don't have a .223 AR yet... but I'll admit that I've made some of the purchases for my 15-22 based upon the fact that someday I will and can then swap them over to that.
However, there are people who just really like the .22 platform. This will be my 2nd .22 rifle that I've spent more than a grand on. My 10/22 has still cost me a good deal more to build than what I have invested into my 15-22 and all of those parts are dedicated solely to that gun and nothing else. I feel less "guilty" about buying parts for the 15-22 knowing that I'll get greater use out of them down the road.
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Same here, don't have an AR yet but I will pretty soon and some of my parts that are on my 15-22 will go on the AR.
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[QUOTE=SNAPPYCRY;135361539]
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Just wanted to show some more recent photos. I became an official member of the Crayola™ Club last night.
Does having your mags coupled like that not block your ejecting brass??
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Who did the lettering for you?
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I'll do it for you for a couple boxes of mini mags. J/K. Just rub a plain old crayon on it.
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This setup is sweet, I like the short forearm and folding front sight with the fake can it looks so much shorter than a normal 15-22.
AAA+ fast shipping,WILL buy from again!!
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Dang Cjit you beat me to it!
Ultimately I want an M4 front end on my 15-22! So I am going to sit back and wait for someone to make an M4 style barrel that will take a fixed front iron sight and once they do, it will have M4 hand guards on it!
I think you did a GREAT job!
Mike,
It's not a real Gemtech can, it's an officially licensed (100% accurate) replica for airsoft or display. It is not holllow, can not be made to silence, it's solid billet aluminum.
Snapcry,
I'm not sure yet if this is going to have a negative effect on ejecting. I can offset the magazines height wise if it's an issue, but as it sits right now, it looks like spent casings will clear. I will report back after I go to the range this weekend. There is one other issue, this makes using the mag assist button useless once you get down to where the mag clip is.
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