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mp 15-22 foregrip question
Merry christmas all, I got a 3 way folding caa grip for my 22. I sent it back to cabelas. It was just way too loose feeling after I attached it. I ordered the short caa stubby for 15.00 from botach tactical. I like the way this grip looked and the price was right. My question is what is the rule of thumb as to where on the rail to attach a fore grip. I am somewhat new to ar's ( always been an AK man ) It seems most pictures show it about almost exactly halfway on the rail. I really do like the way the way foregrips change your stance. Might put one on my AK. Any help would be appreciated!! Happy Holidays!!!!
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12-24-2009, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CORPORAL PUNISHMENT
Merry christmas all, I got a 3 way folding caa grip for my 22. I sent it back to cabelas. It was just way too loose feeling after I attached it. I ordered the short caa stubby for 15.00 from botach tactical. I like the way this grip looked and the price was right. My question is what is the rule of thumb as to where on the rail to attach a fore grip. I am somewhat new to ar's ( always been an AK man ) It seems most pictures show it about almost exactly halfway on the rail. I really do like the way the way foregrips change your stance. Might put one on my AK. Any help would be appreciated!! Happy Holidays!!!!
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It's going to depend on your arm length and what style of grip you use, like a beer can grip or whatever. I've been reading Green Eyes and Black Rifles by Kyle Lamb and he has his mounted all the way forward on the rail. I have mine back a little bit because it's more comfortable and if I want to still grip just the rail I can. Again in the book, Kyle Lamb says, "If you use a forward pistol grip, slide it out, not so far that it is uncomfortable, but get it where it assists in driving the weapon." Hope that helps.
Although I guess looking at the pic, mine is almost all the way to the end of the rail too.
Jason
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12-25-2009, 01:07 AM
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Merry christmas all, I got a 3 way folding caa grip for my 22. I sent it back to cabelas. It was just way too loose feeling after I attached it. I ordered the short caa stubby for 15.00 from botach tactical. I like the way this grip looked and the price was right. My question is what is the rule of thumb as to where on the rail to attach a fore grip. I am somewhat new to ar's ( always been an AK man ) It seems most pictures show it about almost exactly halfway on the rail. I really do like the way the way foregrips change your stance. Might put one on my AK. Any help would be appreciated!! Happy Holidays!!!!
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When I put mine on, I held the grip under the gun and slid it back and forth until it felt right and then mounted it. Its all personal preference, I think.
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12-25-2009, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CORPORAL PUNISHMENT
My question is what is the rule of thumb as to where on the rail to attach a fore grip. I am somewhat new to ar's ( always been an AK man ) It seems most pictures show it about almost exactly halfway on the rail. I really do like the way the way foregrips change your stance. Might put one on my AK. Any help would be appreciated!! Happy Holidays!!!!
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A close-in foregrip will allow you to swing the rifle quicker and with less movement. IMO, this is preferable for shooting at moving targets such as jumping cans and stuff. A foregrip that is extended allows for more leverage/control and is preferable for rapid fire at fixed targets. But like the others said ergonomics is also a consideration. I have arms the length of an orangutan so even though I spend most of my 15-22 time shooting at cans I keep the foregrip mostly extended. But... if I was only going to shoot for a short period of time and was in a friendly competition of can dancing.... I'd pull it in close.
After having said all that.... probably doesn't matter a hill of beans one way or the other.
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12-27-2009, 03:58 AM
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There are two factors that come into play when choosing a grip position. Control, and fatigue.
The farther out on the hand guard your hold is, the more precise the control will be during target transitions. The closer in the hold on the hand guard, the less precision you will have during target transitions.
Holding at the far end of the hand guard will cause more fatigue to your support arm than if you hold in close.
So you need to find a hold that is a balance between the two. Your support hand needs to be as far forward as possible without being overly tiring. Practice/training is key.
ETA: I also recommend that you use the VFG as a more of grip stop behind your hand rather than holding the VFG itself. You have more control over the rifle if you hold the hand guard itself. This is one of the reasons that the stubby VFG's have become so popular in recent years.
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12-27-2009, 09:47 AM
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Thanks Thomas, ( and the rest that responded ) I'm glad you said that about the stubby. I ordered the caa stubby the other day. I kind of see what your saying by using the stubby and the handrail. So the stubby would kinda rest in the area of your hand between your thumb and forefinger? I can see where that would be ideal.
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12-27-2009, 11:53 AM
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I meant more like the stubby VFG would be gripped between the area between your 3rd-4th fingers and the heal of your palm, while your first,second and thumb grips the stock. As if you were normally gripping the handguard with your thumb forward, and then slid your hand back tight against the VFG.
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ahhh. completely different than I was thinking. I see exactly what you mean. ( actually got my rifle out and tried it w/ out the grip ) Thank you for taking the time to reply. Happy Holidays.
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