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Old 07-19-2010, 01:34 PM
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Thread dedicated to everything about .22LR and the 15-22


Here is a list straight from the manual:


Approved 15-22 ammo

Aguila Super Extra High Velocity 38gr HP
Aguila Super Extra Std. Velocity 40gr LRN AGUI22SESVSP
CCI Standard Velocity 40gr LRN
CCI Mini-Mag 36gr GLHP
CCI Stinger 32gr GLHP
Federal American Eagle 40gr LRN AE5022
Federal American Eagle 38gr HP AE22
Federal GameShock 40gr CLRN 710
Federal GameShock 40gr CLRN 810
Winchester Super-X High Velocity 40gr HP WNX22LRPP1


Not Recommended 15-22 ammo

Remington Golden Bullet
Remington Target 22
Remington Thunderbolt
Winchester Wildcat
any and all subsonic ammo

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Other ammo that owners have used with moderate to high success:

CCI Blazer 40gr LRN Rimfire #CC10021
Federal Champion 36gr HP Rimfire #545 (also known as #745 on Federal's website)
Winchester "333" 36gr HP Rimfire #22LR333HP


Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 manual:
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...fle_Manual.pdf


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Aguila
Aguila Ammunition / Centurion Ordnance, Inc.

CCI
CCI Ammunition - View All CCI Loads

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Federal Premium - Rimfire Ballistics

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http://www.winchester.com/Products/r...s/default.aspx

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nice sticky,thanks for the info this will help me stock up on good ammo for my future new 15-22
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all work in my Dtx, none upgraded. friend has Dtx and all work in his.

Winchester Wildcat,
Rem subsonic ammo
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The first ammo I tried (fed 525 bulk, 36 grain hp) had 0 problems so I have stuck with it and been reluctant to try anything else. Better groups would be minimal as with these I'm getting groups no larger than 5", but mostly 3".
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My buddy has been using Remington Golden Bullet in his. We have fired about 1000 rounds through it, and while the accuracy is good (averaging about 1.25" groups) we have been getting failures about every 5 shots. It is his father's gun, and he never bothered to look at the manual. While researching the gun because I am thinking about getting one, I found out that his ammo is not recommended. Also, his gun is one of the first batch, so I told him to contact S&W to get extractor, spring, and mag upgrades.
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Everyone,

If at all possible when you post what ammo works for you can you please be a bit more detailed? The only reason I mention this is so that if anyone say goes to Wal-Mart or MidwayUSA they can easily look up the same ammunition.

For example, the rather popular Federal "375 Red Box", "525 Red Box", or "550 Red Box" 22lr found at Wal-Mart is a 36gr copper-plated hollow point. When I do a look-up over at Federal's website they have this listed as Load Number 745 with all of the velocity and other stats. This helps others who wish to use the same round due to either performance or reliability are, for one reason or another, not able to find these bulk packs are able to find the same load in the smaller 50-round or 100-round boxes.

And if any of you have ANY confusion about details on a particular load do please ask them and I'm sure if not myself someone else will chime in if they happen to know. This way we can help each other find the loads we are desiring to help feed our "children" the most accurate "food" possible. ^_^
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Tried the Federal 333 bulk from walmart. first mag went fine. second mag and they got all jammed up in the magazine and there was 5 failure to ejects
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.22lr ballistics table which shows many popular loads:
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Federal Premium - Downloadable Ballistics Application

This is the one I use, It's interactive so you can make adjustments to everything you could imagine.
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Tried the Federal 333 bulk from walmart. first mag went fine. second mag and they got all jammed up in the magazine and there was 5 failure to ejects
Federal doesn't sell a 333 at Walmart.

Either Federal 375 or Winchester 333.


I have run the Winchester 333, a few issues, but the gun wasn't broken in at all.

Since then, I have run the CCI Minimags in roundnose, the Federal 40 grain roundnose Gameshok, the Federal Walmart bulk (redbox), and Winchester subsonic all with no issues.
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Joined S&W Forum a few hours ago, hoping to find out what was wrong with my baby. You good folks told me. Rem HV ammo. UPS just delivered some CCI Stinger, so baby should be okay now.

Going to look again at the manual and see what else I missed.
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I must just be the fortunate son, so to speak. My 15-22 digests everything I feed it, and I think that should be the norm, not the exception. Here's what I've fed through mine (all High Velocity, no sub sonic):

a. Rem HV, 40 gr bullets, 150 rounds, zero problems
b. Rem GB 550 round Bonus Pack, 36 gr, no problems except for one round that didn't go off (dud) but had a definite firing pin strike
c. Rem GB 525 round Value Pack, 36 gr, no problems
d. Rem Thunderbolt, 50 rounds, 40 gr, no problems
e. Win 555, 36 gr, no problems
f. Win Super X, 40 gr,150 rounds, zero problems
g. Fed 550 round Value Pack, 36 gr, 4 duds, 2 rounds with bullets that were bent with respect to the case (didn't chamber right?)
h. CCI Stingers, 32 gr, zero problems.

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I have been running nothing but copper plated ammo but want to try out some non-plated lead stuff. Should I clean my barrel more shooting non-plated ammo?
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Hey everyone. Had myself a great day at the range and thought I'd share how my 15-22 went through a bunch of various ammos and share pics of my targets. I did all of my shooting at an outdoor range at 25 yards with 0 wind. I shot from a very solid benchrested position with a NcStar 3-9X42 scope. All groups are 10 rounds shot at 1 inch stickers. Exception is the Rem GB was shot at a 2 inch sticker because I ran outa 1 inchers. Scope was zeroed using Win 333 ammo so ignore group placement, what counts are sizes. Ammos tested:

Federal 550 Bulk Pack
Remington Gold Bullet 550 Bulk Pack
Winchester 333 Bulk Pack
Winchester Super X .37 Grain High Velocity Hollow Point
CCI Mini-Mag .36 Grain Hollow Point
CCI Mini-Mag .40 Grain Round Nose
CCI Stinger Hyper Velocity






Looks like for my 15-22 CCI is the Bees Knees while Win 333 is gonna be my go-to econo class..for now....I still want to test these loads at 50 75 and 100 yards to see whats best overall as far as trajectory consistancy over a 100 yard span. As far as the reliability goes, I shot close to 600 rounds that day (lots of metal target plinking) and I did not have one single failure, not one (Very Happy). My only gripe is DON'T buy the Barska Red-Dot electro sight I have!! It sucks! Adjustmets are **** and it does not stay zeroed. The NcStar scope works very well. Only problem with it I had is if I removed it from the gun and put it back on, I would have to re-zero it. It would be off by about 1 inch each time. But as long as I did not remove it, it stayed perfectly zeroed.
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I have a quick question about .22lr bullet drop. I'm down at my local army range this Saturday and will be shooting on their 200m range, I was hoping to take the 15-22 with me and shoot off a load of CCI mini-mag. I'm very new to .22lr shooting, but i've been told high velocity will reach 200m. On a windless day what kind of bullet drop can I expect (new scope and i'll have to bore-sight it in my back garden at about 25m). Doesn't have to be exact, just need rough idea to get it on the target and i'll walk it in from there.
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100yrds, roughly -5.7", 200yrds, -44".....quite a drop, this is calcuated off of federal 36grn hp. program.
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HI,
I was wondering if anyone knew what type of Aguila .22LR ammo does the Civilian Marksmanship Programs uses. I see that they have their own boxed ammo and I wanted to know more about it because you have to be a CMP member in order to purchase their ammo.
thanks,


Here is a list straight from the manual:


Approved 15-22 ammo

Aguila Super Extra High Velocity 38gr HP
Aguila Super Extra Std. Velocity 40gr LRN AGUI22SESVSP
CCI Standard Velocity 40gr LRN
CCI Mini-Mag 36gr GLHP
CCI Stinger 32gr GLHP
Federal American Eagle 40gr LRN AE5022
Federal American Eagle 38gr HP AE22
Federal GameShock 40gr CLRN 710
Federal GameShock 40gr CLRN 810
Winchester Super-X High Velocity 40gr HP WNX22LRPP1


Not Recommended 15-22 ammo

Remington Golden Bullet
Remington Target 22
Remington Thunderbolt
Winchester Wildcat
any and all subsonic ammo

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Other ammo that owners have used with moderate to high success:

CCI Blazer 40gr LRN Rimfire #CC10021
Federal Champion 36gr HP Rimfire #545 (also known as #745 on Federal's website)
Winchester "333" 36gr HP Rimfire #22LR333HP


Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 manual:
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...fle_Manual.pdf


Ammunition URL's:

Aguila
Aguila Ammunition / Centurion Ordnance, Inc.

CCI
CCI Ammunition - View All CCI Loads

Federal
Federal Premium - Rimfire Ballistics

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http://www.winchester.com/Products/r...s/default.aspx[/QUOTE]
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I have a quick question about .22lr bullet drop. I'm down at my local army range this Saturday and will be shooting on their 200m range, I was hoping to take the 15-22 with me and shoot off a load of CCI mini-mag. I'm very new to .22lr shooting, but i've been told high velocity will reach 200m. On a windless day what kind of bullet drop can I expect (new scope and i'll have to bore-sight it in my back garden at about 25m). Doesn't have to be exact, just need rough idea to get it on the target and i'll walk it in from there.
Based on what I've read, with a 50 yard zero you will have over 50 inch drop at 200 yards (not meters but close). You can probably do it, but need a good scope and time to play with drop and then hope there is no wind when you shoot. Could be asking for a lot of fun - or some frustration. Good Luck
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Brilliant, cheers guys. So at 200 yards a drop of 50 inches equates to about 25 MOA of adjustment I need to make? My scope should be able to do that. I know its asking a lot taking it out to 200 meters/yards, but I love shooting my M&P 15-22 so i'll take it along anyway and give it a try. I'll let you know how i get on. Thanks again.
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Thread dedicated to everything about .22LR and the 15-22


Here is a list straight from the manual:


Approved 15-22 ammo

Aguila Super Extra High Velocity 38gr HP
Aguila Super Extra Std. Velocity 40gr LRN AGUI22SESVSP
CCI Standard Velocity 40gr LRN
CCI Mini-Mag 36gr GLHP
CCI Stinger 32gr GLHP
Federal American Eagle 40gr LRN AE5022
Federal American Eagle 38gr HP AE22
Federal GameShock 40gr CLRN 710
Federal GameShock 40gr CLRN 810
Winchester Super-X High Velocity 40gr HP WNX22LRPP1


Not Recommended 15-22 ammo

Remington Golden Bullet
Remington Target 22
Remington Thunderbolt
Winchester Wildcat
any and all subsonic ammo

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I purchased a M&P 15-22 in April; the owner's manual is copyrighted 2009 & does not mention the "Not Recommended" or "Recommended" lists in the current 2010 manual. The spring on top of the bolt is silver, not blue. I gather there have been problems observed with some ammo which Smith & Wesson attempted to correct with modifications to the recoil spring & ejector.

What is the time line for these modifications and which would a M&P 15-22 made Feb-March 2010 have?

I fired about 250 Remington GB loads & had several Failures to Fire. I only pulled I bullet & saw most of the priming compound was missing; others fired on a second strike; some never fired. I put these failures to bad ammo.

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I purchased a M&P 15-22 in April; the owner's manual is copyrighted 2009 & does not mention the "Not Recommended" or "Recommended" lists in the current 2010 manual. The spring on top of the bolt is silver, not blue. I gather there have been problems observed with some ammo which Smith & Wesson attempted to correct with modifications to the recoil spring & ejector.

What is the time line for these modifications and which would a M&P 15-22 made Feb-March 2010 have?

I fired about 250 Remington GB loads & had several Failures to Fire. I only pulled I bullet & saw most of the priming compound was missing; others fired on a second strike; some never fired. I put these failures to bad ammo.
I honestly can't really give you an exact timeline as to when the modifications were made since I don't really know myself so I'm hoping someone else will chime in if they know. But, if you've got the original manual chances are your rifle has neither the revised spring set nor revised extractor installed.

I know that others have used ammo on the Not Recommended list without issues and some even claim that Remington GB is the bees knees regarding ammo. However, that said an equal number of users who have used ammo on the Not Recommended list have suffered everything from OOB (read: out-of-battery) discharges to blown extractors which was passed along to S&W and why they do not recommend it's use in all current revisions of the manual.

While I'm not sure if S&W would ever deny a warranty repair claim if it was found the user was using Not Recommended ammo I do not think I'd wish to find out myself.
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From what I've read, there have also been a lot of OOB's, FTF's, and FTE's using the recommended ammo. It's not just a non-recommended ammo thing.

I would think that S&W would find it very difficult to deny warranty involving non-recommended ammo if that ammo meets the SAAMI specs for 22 LR. Also, with S&W customer service's positive attitude, I would be very surprised if they would refuse warranty because of using ammo on their non-recommended list. Note, it's their recommendation for what and what not to use, not their requirement for warranty.
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From what I've read, there have also been a lot of OOB's, FTF's, and FTE's using the recommended ammo. It's not just a non-recommended ammo thing.

I would think that S&W would find it very difficult to deny warranty involving non-recommended ammo if that ammo meets the SAAMI specs for 22 LR. Also, with S&W customer service's positive attitude, I would be very surprised if they would refuse warranty because of using ammo on their non-recommended list. Note, it's their recommendation for what and what not to use, not their requirement for warranty.
If I gave the impression that ALL rimfire ammo was perfect that was not my intention. But, were it me, I'd shy away from anything the vendor said was not a good idea to use since I've no desire to turn my baby into a scrap pile that and I absolutely despise the goo, or whatever that gunk is, that Remington puts on their ammo. *shudder*

As far as S&W denying the claim I just mentioned it was a possibility not that it would have been a good idea for them to do so. However, you do have a good point in that I don't think it is a condition regarding the warranty.
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Had another fun time at the range testing out my different ammos this time out to 50 and 100 yards. I used my same 25YD zero with the 3-9X42 optic on a stable benchrest. I already tested these ammos at 25 yards but wanted to see how they did with a 25yd zero at 50-100yards as far as bullet drop and of course group sizes. Turns out at 50 it is still pretty much at zero but at 100 there is noticeable bullet drop. 10 shot group sizes are measured center to center of two furthest holes; flyers included. Bullet drop measurment is the average drop of the group. Here are the different loads I tried and the photos:

Federal 550 Bulk Pack
Winchester 333 Bulk Pack
Winchester Super X .37 Grain High Velocity Hollow Point
CCI Mini-Mag .36 Grain Hollow Point
CCI Mini-Mag .40 Grain Round Nose
CCI Stinger Hyper Velocity

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Just got my 15-22, looked through the manual and did not see this. GREAT information
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Eley Club: 40gr with a paraffin wax coating for semi-autos. MV 1085 ft/s and 994 ft/s at 50m & 935 ft/s at 91m. I've now been through over 1,000 rds with no FTF or FTE. More details incl vendors at:

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So is the general concensus that Win 555 and Fed 550 are ok to shoot? My serial # is DTA and the only bullets I've tried are the Rem Gold bulk which was a total disaster with many FTF and FTE stove pipes. Luckily no
OOB's.
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I have shot about 2000 rnds of the federal 36 grain copp plated hp load 750 and 500 rnds of federal lighting 40 grain soft nose and have had 2 ftf (firing pin struck but no bang) an 1 oob. Price is right just bulk ammo hiccups
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went to the range yesterday and fired over 500 rounds of federal ammo without one misfire. My brother was shooting his new .22 walther and he had some Winchester Expert ammo which is what I used when I had the OOB that knocked off the extractor on my gun. I shot a few of the Winchesters with zero misfires as well.

I'm confident that my 15-22 would shot what ever ammo I feed it.
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anyone tried the winchester 555 walmart pack? only $20. Says "1280fps velocity, 36 grain plated hollow point"
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I went to wally world to pick up some of those winchester super-x rounds suggested in the manual, but the only ones in stock were very similar, Winchester XpertHV high velocity. Possible same round as ^above^ since it is also 36gr 1280fps.

Anyone have experience with this? I just ordered my magpul mp15-22, and these will be the first thru.
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I just saw an episode of Guns & Ammo that featured a CCI 22LR round made for the AR style rifles on the market now. It was basically a standard velocity 40 grain copper round nose bullet. The box had the image of an AR rifle printed on it, and it looked to be a bulk pack. Has anyone seen any of these?
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I went to wally world to pick up some of those winchester super-x rounds suggested in the manual, but the only ones in stock were very similar, Winchester XpertHV high velocity. Possible same round as ^above^ since it is also 36gr 1280fps.

Anyone have experience with this? I just ordered my magpul mp15-22, and these will be the first thru.
this one should have been $19.47


And i believe you might be talking about the silver boxed ones, which could be these: I have never seen them before at walmart. curious, what was the price?


seems like the tips have at least different plating.

after a little research i believe the silver boxed packs are probably "old" and no longer carried, likely replaced by the 555.


in other news, does anyone use CCI velocitor? Seems like a high quality ammo, but runs about $55 for 500. I'd buy it as break-in ammo if its really good, but i haven't heard anything about it here on 15-22. other forums really seem to love it. for break ins everyone seems to recommend CCI anyway.

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And i believe you might be talking about the silver boxed ones, which could be these: I have never seen them before at walmart. curious, what was the price?


seems like the tips have at least different plating.

after a little research i believe the silver boxed packs are probably "old" and no longer carried, likely replaced by the 555.
Yep that exact box. They were $19.83 after tax for the 500. The casings are stamped super x on the bottom, so Im just totally confused. Darn it, wally suckered me out of 55 extra rounds!

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let me know how they go, i was actually looking for super-x and not the 555 pack as "super-x" is (marketed anyway) as the better item.
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Hi all, I've put around 650 rds of federal target grade through my new 15/22 with only one ftf.(Dud)
Around 600 cci minimags with NO problems at all.
However, Winchester bulk 333's were stovepiping at a rate of one per every eight shots.
Finished the box and I won't be buying that one again.
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Cabela,s has them. $19.99 per box of 375 .Part # on box says 0953-1500. the Cabela's parts # is 03130157
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I bought a 50 round box of Winchester Supreme Xpediter 1640fps 32 gr plated HP at WW for $6.47. Loaded up a 25 rounder and stopped at 20 rounds because:
6 failed to extract due to low power. They actually went pop and even tho there was a hole in the target, I removed the bolt to make sure there wasn't a bullet lodged in the barrel
2 failed to fire with good strikes
1 failed to feed
1 went whoosh. My targets are old pizza boxes and I heard a slap. When I inspected, The cardboard had a slight indentation and the bullet was laying on a screen I placed there to see if bullets were not penetrating the firewood pile backstop.
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I just saw an episode of Guns & Ammo that featured a CCI 22LR round made for the AR style rifles on the market now. It was basically a standard velocity 40 grain copper round nose bullet. The box had the image of an AR rifle printed on it, and it looked to be a bulk pack. Has anyone seen any of these?
I saw the same episode and was wondering the same thing. I went to CCI's web site and found no mention of them, unless they just haven't updated the site yet. The nose of the bullet had a slightly different shape to ensure reliable feeding. As I recall they were standard velocity also.
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Has any one tried the CCI Blazer. I `ve been shooting The 550 bulk Fed and CCI mini mag. Like the mini mag but a little expensive. 550 Fed leaving gun real dirty.I see the CCI Blazer in bulk for about the same price.
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Has any one tried the CCI Blazer. I `ve been shooting The 550 bulk Fed and CCI mini mag. Like the mini mag but a little expensive. 550 Fed leaving gun real dirty.I see the CCI Blazer in bulk for about the same price.
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The CCI Blazers are excellent,cheap and accurate. I use them in my S&W 15-22, my SIG 522 and my PUMA PPS-50. I do not intend to ever use any of the others again. The CCI Mini-Mags are good but expensive and the same for Aguila Maximums.

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I just put 50 rounds of CCI Blazer down range today with no problems. Right before that I had tried 50 rounds of Remington GB and had several FTEs and stove pipes.
I know 50 rounds isnt much to go on, but I was limited for time. But the CCI rounds shoot perfectly with out a hiccup.

When I have more time I will go through the whole box and take notes and report.

and yes, this is my first post in this great forum.
I will post up pics of my sexy beast soon.
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I love the CCI blazers, that is about all I run anymore. I took the 15-22 to the range today and ran 12 mags through it, 1 of which was rapid fire the entire magazine. Not a single hiccup. I bought like 6 bricks at a place around here called Big R when they were on sale for $14.99 for 500 rds. Now that is cheap shootin.
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I emailed CCI about their new round for the new AR style 22 long rifles that was shown on Guns&Ammo last week. This was the reply...
" This is our new CCI 22 AR Tactical round, Part 0953. This is a new CCI product for 2011, but some early sales went to Cabelas only. After Jan of 2011 it will be available at other retailers. "
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So what are the characteristics of the CCI 22 AR Tactical round that make them unique/good for "22 AR's"? Standard velocity, round nose 40 gr bullet isn't anything special as far as I'm concerned. Is this just marketing? Probably more pricey than the value packs?
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Gander Mountain has CCI Mini-mags 36 and 40 gr packs of 100 on sale for $5.99. These showed in the flyer from the newspaper I got today and were also in the flyer at the store. My Walmart has them for $6.49. My local Gander now has no more 36 gr packages, bought all 14. -- edit: checked the ad, says in-store only..

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Can anybody tell me which ammo shoots cleaner Fed 550 or Blazer 500 w/lead nose.
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let me know how they go, i was actually looking for super-x and not the 555 pack as "super-x" is (marketed anyway) as the better item.
I finally got my lazy behind to the range to test the ExpertHvs. Ended up with 8 FTF/FTEs out of the 500. Not terrible I guess, Ill prob go back to mini mags.
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Question lead

Having just used CCI Blazer For the first time and liking them a lot I was going to purchase 5000 at a good price. I decided to Google the difference between the lead bullet and the copper plated bullet. This was from Rainier Ballistics...

This is the PLATED bullet company. Lead or lead base bullets can put lead vapors in the air when fired. Lead inhaled can stay in your body for 40 years and damage your liver and brain. Copper plated bullets minimize lead vapor in the air. At the firing line, lead vapor from regular lead may be in the range of 43 micrograms compared to 1.7 micrograms for plated bullets. On indoor ranges, don't forget a LOT of lead vapor comes from the bullet hitting the backstop and splattering. All lead bullets will produce this effect except at special indoor ranges with special backstops and ventilation. Still, the more you cut down on vapors, the better and the bullets look pretty also. Rainier used a SWAGED bullet instead of a hot-cast bullet. This means formed from lead wire instead of poured into a mould. Then the bullets are copper electroplated completely. GUN WORLD and GUNS and AMMO magazines have had nice things to say about the accuracy of these bullets.

Do`es anybody have a issue with lead?
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Default various 22LR ammo types by Aquila, @ Cabela's

In the Cabela's shooting catalog they have a few different types of 22LR ammo from a company called Aquila. They have 36gr copper plated hollow points in bulk for $85 per 2,100 rounds, One called the interceptor which is a 40gr, that shoots at 1,470fps for $50 per 500 rounds, a .22 super maximum that is 30gr and shoots at 1,750fps for $41 per 500 rounds.

they also have Federal bird shot rounds with #12 shot that goes for $105 per 500 rounds

Has anyone used any kind of Aquila ammo or heard anything about it?
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