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Old 01-23-2011, 02:07 AM
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Hello yall
Just picked up my 15-22 today and must say im really impressed. I would like to swap the hand guard out though but the only ones I seem to be able to find are the stock one and the free floated one from S&W.

With the ar platform taking the world by storm does anyone know of an aftermarket hand guard that will work for these or are we stuck with the two choices?

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but the only ones I seem to be able to find are the stock one and the free floated one from S&W. JG

The handguard on the 15-22 does not attach to the receiver like a standard AR. The barrel nut sandwiches the handguard to the upper receiver. This isn't how a standard AR handguard attaches.

I don't know what you are refering to ref. the free floated one, but there are currently NO after market or S&W replacement handguards available for the M&P 15-22 that can be used without modification.

In order to replace the handguard on the 15-22, you need a couple of items. (1) a barrel nut wrench designed specially for the 15-22. (2) a replacement barrel nut designed to allow the 15-22 to use a free float screw-on AR handguard.

Both of these items are available here:

Smith & Wesson M&P15-22 Conversion Accessories, Specifications, Manuals, Photos, and Videos

Here is a thread link to one of the S&W forum member's video series. He's made a bunch of instructional videos pertaining to the 15-22.

M&P 15-22 Instructional Video Series

After you have installed the new replacement adapter barrel nut, you can install any of these (and more) handguards:

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Free-...uards-s/54.htm

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With the barrel nut adapter, you can screw on an ar15 delta ring assembly to open up your handguard possibilities even more.
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Thanks everyone I will definitely be doing that in the near future
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@Quadcam
Does the delta ring assembly work similarly to the replacement barrel nut offered by tacticool?

**disregard I just re read that am I correct in assuming that it screws on to the barrel adapter?
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Gentleman I hate to be asking all of the newb questions, this is my first AR style platform so I really dont know much.
If the barrel but is replaced with the MOE handguards fit?

Magpul MOE Rifle Length Handguard
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That's what a 15-22 looks like using a Tacticool22 barrel nut adapter with an AR15 Barrel Nut/Delta Ring, Carbine Length hand guards and an A2 front sight post. This is not all "bolt on" the sigh post requires some spacers to be machined and a way to affix the post.
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Brett!
Thanks for the pics.. I have watched some of your YT stuff and its been great so far thanks!!
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Here is a pic with the MOE stock, grip, handguard and BUIS in FDE. With a shroud and with just a flash hider. You can do anything you want to with these rifles. So ALL aftermarket and S&W replacement handguards are available for the 15-22.
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Thanks looks great! I really appreciate all of this info folks
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Here's mine with one of Tacticool22's free float adapters used to attach a delta ring. I just used a quad rail gas block on mine. The handguard end cap had a lot of play which let the handguard move around, but I put a 10/32x1/2" SHCS through the gas tube hole and it doesn't move at all, now.






I am just waiting for some MOE rail sections I ordered so I can remount my MBUS on the MOE handguard. It's also going to get a Magpul ACS stock so it matches the AR I'm building.
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Shawn,

That looks great!
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Thanks, Brett. Might have to do the conversion on my brother's FDE 15-22. Maybe, he'll go for mid-length or rifle length.
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How about this one

Troy TRX Standard Battle Rail - Black
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that a nice handguard if you want to spend the $$$
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Will this one work


Troy BattleRail TRX Extreme M7 7.6" |
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Either of those should work just fine.
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If possible how short do you think you could cut the barrel and still maintain accuracy and power
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If possible how short do you think you could cut the barrel and still maintain accuracy and power
At least as short as the 15-22 pistol version, however, If you cut it any shorter than it is now (16"), it will be an SBR which requires approval from the 'Man' first, or it would not be legal.

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You can chop the barrel to 14.5" ( a safer length is 14.7") and then have your flash hider permanently pinned and welded to bring your total over all length to 16+" The "accuracy" that is lost is negligible and in a .22 will likely not be noticed. I have several 14.5(14.7") pinned and welded AR's.

You ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT cut a barrel down to a pistol length unless that firearm is registered as a pistol.

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What exactly would I have to do and what would it cost me?
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To have it registered
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What exactly would I have to do and what would it cost me?
This is an entirely new thread that you are asking about. This discussion can be found all over the interweb.
Basically you have to find out if it is legal to own an SBR in your state. If not, your question is answered. If your state allows it, you fill out an application, get fingerprints, background check, Chief Law enforcement signature, send it to the ATF with $200 and wait 4-6 months for an approval. Then comes the cost of the conversion. Do a little more research...
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Hey all, I am currently in the process of putting an moe handguard on my rifle, pictures to come!
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Scooter, lee us know if you have any questions about the conversion. I had mine set up with a carbine length moe, a mid-length moe and now have a vltor casv-el on it.
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Try this one instead.

http://shop.nordiccomp.com/NC-Small-...FT-SMD-RFL.htm
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Okay guys, time for some pictures and an update, I had done some research on this prior. It looked pretty cool and I was thinking of what I could do to make it look different then all the ones I've seen out there, I really dig the SBR look. I received some parts from Tacticool22 and other various sources for this conversion, It is a slow process for me but it is going well, here are some pictures below.



the parts and tools laid out



My rifle in pieces..





I had to make my own extension for this because I didn't know that it would be so short but I managed to break the barrel nut free.



I used a triangle handguard end cap and dremeled out the center so it would fit snug on the break..so far so good.

I will be cutting the barrel down to 14 or so and pinning the break on with the end cap on it so that the moe handguard will fit and not move since I am not using a FSB, I have tested it out and it works/feels nice.






I have it laid out as to what it would look like, I am getting the whole rifle hydro dipped in multicam.



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Make sure that the flash hider is pinned/welded properly. You don't want a trip to Club Fed because it was <16 inches or wasn't permanent. That is one long handguard.
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It's getting professionally done, it should be exactly 16 when its pinned.
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Sweet. That's still one long handguard.
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That looks great, post pics once she's all done!
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AFWhirlybird,

I too replaced the stock handguard on my 15-22. I decided to make it look like my AR15. I used the following components:

1) Tacticool22 15-22 barrel nut wrench
2) Tacticool22 15-22 handguard adapter
3) Tacticool22 15-22 vise jaws
4) AR15 Delta Ring Assembly with barrel nut
5) Magpul MOE Midlength handguards
6) AR15 handguard cap
7) True Shot Technolgies 15-22 AR style front sight assembly with the gas port tapped and threaded to accept a machine screw to hold the handguard cap in place
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Sweet. That's still one long handguard.
It looks like a huge condom.
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It looks like a huge condom.
Yeah, I think I saw on Magpul's site that they were selling fde Tactical Phallus Covers. They come in rifle, carbine, sbr and derringer.
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It looks like a huge condom.


Ha, I suppose it does a little bit..but it wont stand out like that when its done, the only thing being fde will be the break and a mag.
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Sweet. That's still one long handguard.
It is not that long, I think it is a good length, I was looking into a 13in TRX but went with this. I hadn't seen them as much.
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Scootr, you are the only one that has to be happy with your rifle. If it is comfortable and functional and you like it, it doesn't matter what I, or anyone else, think about it. Build it, shoot it and have fun with it.
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Scootr, you are the only one that has to be happy with your rifle. If it is comfortable and functional and you like it, it doesn't matter what I, or anyone else, think about it. Build it, shoot it and have fun with it.
Agreed, I was just surprised at the comment. I am looking forward to putting it back together and shooting it, it's been too long!
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I love my conversion, all thanks to Tacticool for the great parts!

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That looks AWESOME!!!
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Check out Midwest Industries: for some new hand guard options
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I saw the link on your facebook, they look sick, but they dont ship to Holland, my ever lasting problem
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For those of you who have mounted metal rails / handguards on your rifles, have you noticed anything in terms of flex at the point of connection? I have the Troy 13" TRX Standard (mentioned above) on my 5.56 AR, and it's certainly not light. I'd love to do something like this to my 15-22, but am concerned that the extra weight would pull or stress the upper receiver a little too much. Any thoughts?
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Here is an update on my build.













I drilled holes in the handguard and bolted the light mount to it, it was the best angle for me for a thumb over grip.









More to come!

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Looks nice but man that is a big light to go on there, IMO.
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It's just mounted far forward, it's the same size as the m600c but the tail cap and bezel are a bit bigger.
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The troy rail works great for me, no flex. Like it was made for it.

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Decided I wanted to post some new pictures up, taking the barrel in a few weeks.











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Thanks to Brett248vista, Tacticool22, Belt-fed and True Shot Technologies, I finally have mine the way I wanted!
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Holy high off the bore sight lines Batman!

Is that honestly the best solution you could come up with? A scope in rings on a rail attached to a detachable carry handle attached to a flat top?

RRA make the Hi-Rise Cantilever Scope Mount #AR0130T for around $60.

Way simpler.

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