How often ? Barrel removal

[bulldozerd8t]

Since I have a nice barrel nut wrench how often do you remove barrel to clean. Every other cleaning,3rd or 4th cleaning. Can you take barrel off too much?, it is lots easier to clean with the barrel removed. What is your recommendations ?

[Hobie1]

I don't think removing the barrel for cleaning would be recommended. I cover the ejector hook with a piece of tubing just to make sure it doesn't get hooked on something. You can go through the breech end with a rod by taking the bolt assembly out if you want. I use a bore snake. Seems to work well so far.
Less wear I'd think.
Regards,
Hobie

[bulldozerd8t]

Not quite the answer I wanted to hear. I know S&W would pat you on the back with that answer. Buttttt it cleans up better with the barrel off. I clean mine the way you suggested. I use a bore snake also, I don't cover my ejector rod though. I am very careful though. I probably will not take barrel off often but maybe every 5000 to 8000rds.

[benzy2]

I would leave the barrel on to clean. A .22lr doesn't need to be spotless either to shoot well. Most can go many thousands of rounds without shooting poorly. Even some of the top tier bench/position shooters go many rounds without cleaning. The point is, run a bore snake through it a couple times, maybe followed by a patch with oil and then a dry patch, and call it a day. No need to get the thing clean as a whistle. I wouldn't worry about running a bore snake through it for a few thousand rounds, and even then I would keep the barrel on to clean. I wouldn't remove the nut other than to swap hand guards. If you want to remove, go ahead, but I see there being more of an issues with repeated removal of the nut than wear caused by leaving the barrel on.

[Hobie1]

Originally Posted by bulldozerd8t

Not quite the answer I wanted to hear. I know S&W would pat you on the back with that answer. Buttttt it cleans up better with the barrel off. I clean mine the way you suggested. I use a bore snake also, I don't cover my ejector rod though. I am very careful though. I probably will not take barrel off often but maybe every 5000 to 8000rds.

What other rifle requires removing the barrel to clean it?

I think that even removing the barrel nut a few times would probably exceed S&W's expectations and warranty. I could be wrong and welcome being told so. I also have a fine shoo thing but I just checked the torque on the nut and put the gun back together. To dis-assemble the fore-end of my gun to clean it doesn't work for me.

Hobie

[CPTBeaker]

The barrel of an M4, M16, etc. is never removed for cleaning, even under harsh combat use, and it is way harder to clean than a 15-22, so I would leave the barrel in. The barrel, barrel nut, and upper receiver are not designed to be repeatedly disassembled.

You can do what you want, but if you keep taking it apart and putting it back together, eventually I think you are going to find it's going to get sloppy. If you removed and reinstalled the hinge screws out of the front door of your house every 100th time you used the door, eventually they won't stay tight.

Detail clean inside the upper around the chamber with this stuff occasionally. The carbon and fouling just dissolves away and there is absolutely no need to disassemble to use it:

Link

[Hobie1]

Never mind didn't pay attention

[Hobie1]

Originally Posted by CPTBeaker

The barrel of an M4, M16, etc. is never removed for cleaning, even under harsh combat use, and it is way harder to clean than a 15-22, so I would leave the barrel in. The barrel, barrel nut, and upper receiver are not designed to be repeatedly removed.

You can do what you want, but if you keep taking it apart and putting it back together, eventually I think you are going to find it's going to get sloppy. If you removed and reinstalled the hinge screws out of the front door of your house every 100th time you used the door, eventually they won't stay tight.

Detail clean inside the upper around the chamber with this stuff occasionally. The carbon and fouling just dissolves away and there is absolutely no need to disassemble to use it:

Link

I use it and like it.

[bulldozerd8t]

I just wanted some input and your telling me what I thought. I also thought taking the nut off much might cause a problem. Was wondering if anybody took apart often.

Casey gun scrubber is this hard on the plastic in the receiver? The gun powder residue in the top of my receiver using hoppes no. 9 was very hard to get off.

[CPTBeaker]

Originally Posted by bulldozerd8t

is this hard on the plastic in the receiver? The gun powder residue in the top of my receiver using hoppes no. 9 was very hard to get off.

Notice the label - 'Synthetic Safe Cleaner'. It won't hurt plastic.

There is a version that is not safe for synthetics. Don't use that one.

You spray this stuff on the carbon and it just rinses away, for the most part. The spray evaporates right away. You might have to brush the area a bit with a tooth brush between a couple of sprays to get the hard stuff off. It's almost like magic.

Here is the description from the B&C site:

Cleaning your firearms just got a whole lot easier thanks to Gun Scrubber Synthetic Safe Cleaner. Now you can buy one solvent/degreaser that does the job safely on every single firearm that you own. Gun Scrubber Synthetic Safe Cleaner cleans fast and will not harm plastic, wood, laminates, composites, rubber grips or any other material used in the construction of today’s firearms. Even camo finishes are completely safe when you choose Gun Scrubber Synthetic Safe Cleaner.

I would personally not use Hoppes No. 9 on the receiver.

[bulldozerd8t]

Originally Posted by CPTBeaker

Notice the label - 'Synthetic Safe Cleaner'. It won't hurt plastic.

There is a version that is not safe for synthetics. Don't use that one.

Here is the description from the B&C site:

Cleaning your firearms just got a whole lot easier thanks to Gun Scrubber Synthetic Safe Cleaner. Now you can buy one solvent/degreaser that does the job safely on every single firearm that you own. Gun Scrubber Synthetic Safe Cleaner cleans fast and will not harm plastic, wood, laminates, composites, rubber grips or any other material used in the construction of today’s firearms. Even camo finishes are completely safe when you choose Gun Scrubber Synthetic Safe Cleaner.

Thanks for this information going out tomorrow and buy me some. I have some somewhere but it is not synthetic, that's why I quit using it on my mkII ruger because I thought it was like using carburetor cleaner.

[shawnfergie]

Just use some Mpro 7 cleaner and Mpro CLP and you're good to go.

[tacticool22]

I use gunzilla exclusively. The barrel does not need to be removed for cleaning. You should get some of the plastic picks to get to the gunk in the areas around the breech. You should probably follow what you do with your 10/22 as far as how oten you remove the barrel for super deep cleaning. Thousands of rounds or never.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Remove your barrel as often as you like... just don't booger it up in the process. . May sound like no difference... but I have found it better to hold onto the barrel and slide the receiver off rather than holding the receiver and trying to push the barrel thru it. A thread protector can prevent damage to the muzzle threads when working on the rifle with the flash suppressor removed. I had a stubborn ringed ridge gunk build up inside the receiver around the breech area. Shooters Choice and a Qtip knocked it out quick. I got some plastic pics and they're good, but I'm not that 'picky' about cleaning the rifle... so by the time I think the gunk has built up too much it is easier to remove the barrel which only takes a minute.

[chuck s]

Remove the barrel? Never.

Clean the barrel? On a .22LR even a boresnake is probably excessive cleaning if done more than every couple thousand rounds.

-- Chuck

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Originally Posted by chuck s

Remove the barrel? Never.

Clean the barrel? On a .22LR even a boresnake is probably excessive cleaning if done more than every couple thousand rounds.

-- Chuck

I don't use a bore snake to clean a barrel. I use a bore snake to clean the bore of a barrel. That's why they call it a bore snake and not a barrel snake. Please try to use the correct terminology and descriptions in these matters.

[chuck s]

You mean people clean the exterior of the barrel? I'm trying to recall the last time I pulled the handguards off my M4 Carbine.

-- Chuck

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Initial testing has revealed mixed results.

[wickerbill]

Originally Posted by Hobie1

I use it and like it.

This, Q-tips and dental picks are what I use to clean the receaver. I clean the bore with a bore snake. I have never removed the barrel.
Bill