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03-29-2011, 10:58 AM
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wait what... fake magpul XTM cover?
So i recieved a set of magpul XTM covers from
an ebay seller.... who magically deleted their ebay account but here is their store
Eleventy One Gadgets | Fenix Flashlights | Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Dallas
and this is what i recieved.
they didnt come in magpul packaging...
the corners are square and not rounded like original magpuls
they dont fit with real magpuls
they barely fit together at all
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03-29-2011, 11:31 AM
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what's sad is that if they are fake he's charging more for them than the real ones.
are they stamped magpul on the back?
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03-29-2011, 12:02 PM
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what's sad is that if they are fake he's charging more for them than the real ones.
are they stamped magpul on the back?
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yes they say "MAGPUL XTM PANEL PAT PEND" on the back
i did notice that on their site they sell alot of PTS magpul stuff.
Does magpul make a PTS/chinese covers for airsoft?
i have an other package of XTM covers ariving today. i hope they arent fake
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03-29-2011, 01:09 PM
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The ones I got from MidwayUSA and from Primary Arms are the real deal. Just sayin'...
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03-29-2011, 05:10 PM
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If you look at Magpul's PTS site, they seem to have made a move to get away from having PTS and "Real" stuff for rail covers and other cosmetics by going with a single line of products (a.k.a. the "real" stuff) to meet both market needs. With the square shape of those, you probably have Fagpul stuff (no alternative lifestyle offense here, just a reference to "Fake-Magpul"). I have seen fake Magpul (a.k.a. "Fagpul") PRS, MOE, and UBR stock wannabe products at the Nations Gun Show in Chantilly, VA, all for about 20% of the Magpul market value. Buyer beware--they are likely out of spec.
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03-29-2011, 05:28 PM
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It's not surprising to see fake stuff being made for AR's, heck look at just about any thread on this very site talking about optics and you will see that there is a market for fake optics along with other fake AR items. As long as people keep buying this fake stuff unscrupulous people will continue to make it.
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I see a lot of knockoff (exact replica) VFG's selling for $19 brand new, on Ebay and on Amazon. Be very wary about those since a real Magpul VGF should cost you $35 from pretty much any place.
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03-29-2011, 08:07 PM
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I see a lot of knockoff (exact replica) VFG's selling for $19 brand new, on Ebay and on Amazon. Be very wary about those since a real Magpul VGF should cost you $35 from pretty much any place.
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Bravo Co USA is a licensed Magpul dealer - their VFGs are $23
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Bravo Company USA, Inc. AR-15, M16, M4 Tactical Gear, Parts, Accessories.
People just need to buy from reputable dealers: Rainier Arms, Bravo Co USA, Brownells, Midway USA, Spike's Tactical, SKD Tactical, or directly from the manufacturers.
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03-29-2011, 08:30 PM
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Highly recommend "holographic sights" for these panels. Great price, shipping isn't bad and they left the place fast!
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03-30-2011, 12:57 AM
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Bravo Co USA is a licensed Magpul dealer - their VFGs are $23
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Bravo Company USA, Inc. AR-15, M16, M4 Tactical Gear, Parts, Accessories.
People just need to buy from reputable dealers: Rainier Arms, Bravo Co USA, Brownells, Midway USA, Spike's Tactical, SKD Tactical, or directly from the manufacturers.
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Your link is for a RFG, not a AFG. Look at Bravo Co. for the AFG and you'll see it for $35.
I should've said AFG 2, not the older AFG. Look anywhere and places (including Bravo Co.) are selling them for $35 But online you can find the AFG2 for $19 and you just know it's a knockoff.
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Your link is for a RFG, not a AFG. Look at Bravo Co. for the AFG and you'll see it for $35.
I should've said AFG2, not the older AFG. Look anywhere and places (including Bravo Co.) are selling them for $35 But online you can find the AFG2 for $19 and you just know it's a knockoff.
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Dave,
You referred to VFGs in your post, a generic reference to Vertical Forward Grips--no reference to AFG/AFG2--I was keeping red apples as red apples, not green ones; the AFG series runs at a higher cost due to demand. I don't ever worry about buying the knock-offs for any of my firearms gear because I only frequent official dealers and manufacturers for my kit. I should have stock in Magpul (no pun intended), having their parts/accessories on 4 AR-15 and 2 AR-10 rifles, and my M&P15-22.
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03-31-2011, 08:26 PM
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Chinese made copies can be quite convincing sometimes. I bought a set of center caps for some FZJ80 Land Cruiser wheels I have. I think I paid @ $40 for them shipped (I doubt you can find used genuine ones for much less than $25 each) . The seller never claimed them to be the real deal. I got them and the packaging had a look-a-like Toyota part tag with all the numbers on them.
I knew what I was getting though.
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07-26-2011, 01:09 AM
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report this stuff to Magpul!!! There were numerous cease and desist orders as well as several customs violations reported by Magpul, Trijicon, EOTech and several others @ SHOT this year...keep adding fuel to the fire and something will eventually get done by Magpul's legal team
I got screwed on a set of MBUS sights same way--NOT HAPPY but understand it isnt MAgpul's fault
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Does not matter , you can't touch the Chinese , they don't recognize are patents , don't mean nothing to them , since it's in another country , now if it's a copy made in the states then you got a chance , but when it made over there forget it
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Does not matter , you can't touch the Chinese , they don't recognize are patents , don't mean nothing to them , since it's in another country , now if it's a copy made in the states then you got a chance , but when it made over there forget it
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Magpul isnt going after the manufacturers of the knock-offs--its the people importing them illegally that are committing FEDERAL crimes ( the key word here is FEDERAL) they can get Customs involved due to the importation typically bypassing taxes and such
They can also get any online sources ( reputable or otherwise) into some heat if the knock-offs have been reported and nothing has been done to rememdy the situation--
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Does not matter , you can't touch the Chinese , they don't recognize are patents , don't mean nothing to them , since it's in another country , now if it's a copy made in the states then you got a chance , but when it made over there forget it
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If people would have some morals and not be buying all these fake, counterfielt, or "clone" things there wouldn't be the probelms. The reason that companies are making this garbage is because people are buying them. Look at most of the threads on this site and you will see people talking all about their "clones". The people buying these things are just as to blame as the people making them.
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its a vicious circle...people are trying to save a few bucks--so they buy a 'clone'...the legit companies need to make money so they raise the prices because they arent moving enough product...more customers buy 'clones' because their budgets cant afford the real deal...it makes sense--BUT at the end of the day I personally will spend a few extra $$ to make sure the capital is going to OUR companies
I report every fake Magpul listing i see on Ebay and Amazon to Magpul and will continue to do so
Decided that what everyone else does is on them--you have to look yourself in the mirror and if supporting communist counterfeiters doesnt make you wanna vomit--well at the end of the day its your call
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All of the "clone" stuff I have IS just as good as the real stuff. the mbuis I have exactly match the "real" ones my bud has, my stock is identical in size, weight, material as a real one. So here is my question, WHY the price difference?
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If company A can sell something for $100, and B sells the same thing made from the same stuff, but it's $50 which are you gonna buy.
It's simple economics in this day and age.
Now I understand some/most of this clone stuff is no where near as good as the real deal, but for the stuff that is, it just goes to show the real people could sell it for way less.
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All of the "clone" stuff I have IS just as good as the real stuff. the mbuis I have exactly match the "real" ones my bud has, my stock is identical in size, weight, material as a real one. So here is my question, WHY the price difference?
A NAME!
If company A can sell something for $100, and B sells the same thing made from the same stuff, but it's $50 which are you gonna buy.
It's simple economics in this day and age.
Now I understand some/most of this clone stuff is no where near as good as the real deal, but for the stuff that is, it just goes to show the real people could sell it for way less.
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the price difference is a little more than the name, you have to account for R&D, testing, and advertising etc... of course the clones are cheaper, they aren't paying for any of that. you get what you pay for.
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Reviving an old thread here. I just recieved my package of magpul xtm rail covers that I ordered from an ebay vendor. It's a 32 piece pack with all the colors. They came all together in a ziploc type bag with no labels. They all fit together well and look like they could be the real deal. Each one says magpul on the backside. I'm not familiar with how they should look or feel. They do have the round edges. Is there a chance these are real Magpul covers? If they were the PTS covers would they say so on the back? I paid 24.99.
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Plenty of posts on the Internet regarding counterfeit Magpul products - especially if they come from the Far East. Stick with reputable vendors. AIM Surplus has the new black XTM enhanced panels.
Magpul XTM Enhanced Rail Panels
A couple YouTube videos compare counterfeit and real Magpul products. Just like everything else (sports jerseys, watches, etc.) companies out of the Far East will jump on anything hot to make a quick buck. You get what you pay for -- the materials used are not the same.
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Well this really sucks. Pretty sure I got fakes. Guess the price was too good to be true. Now I gotta deal with returning em cause I want to get Magpul products. Shoulda read some customer feedback on this seller before buying.
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I almost did the same thing. I was looking for the XTM Enhanced Rail Panels and could only locate them on eBay and Amazon. I thought it was odd so I did some research and found that they were counterfeit. Some people don't mind since the average person has no clue. I bet there are plenty of people with counterfeit Magpul parts on their guns.
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report this stuff to Magpul!!! There were numerous cease and desist orders as well as several customs violations reported by Magpul, Trijicon, EOTech and several others @ SHOT this year...keep adding fuel to the fire and something will eventually get done by Magpul's legal team
I got screwed on a set of MBUS sights same way--NOT HAPPY but understand it isnt MAgpul's fault
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i would suggest contacting magpul as well.provide them with as much info and links.i imagine they dont like this one bit and probably will take legal action soon if these people dont stop.they make magpul look bad and im sure magpul doesnt want their reputation tainted by knock offs.hey you never know magpul might even offer you a set for informing them of these knock offs.i wouldnt bet on them giving you free stuff but you never know.its a shame people do make knock offs and all it does is cost reputable companies a good amount of money.
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