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Old 09-26-2011, 03:23 AM
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Default Carry Handle on the 15-22

Just picked up my brand new threaded version 15-22 and I'm hoping I can take it out to the range for the first time Monday morning at some point. While at the gun shop, I also picked up a carry handle and will be using it, as well as the stock front post as my main sights for now until I find a red dot sight I like. My question is, how are the carry handles as reliable rear sights on these rifles? Can you get it to be functional at about 25 yards? Also, is the front post sight on the 15-22 adjustable for elevation? I have never sighted in this configuration and didn't know of any tips you may have. Thanks for the help!

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The front sight is adjustable for elevation by turning the post to raise or lower it. Raising lowers the point of impact, lowering the post raised the point of impact. You should probably have a sight tool for this job, but it's doable without. There should be no issue with compatibility with the carry handle and the stock front sight. I have a UTG carry handle and it works just like the factory sight. There are many carry handles out there and the reviews go from good to bad. If you like the carry handle look, check out FMJ50's post on his A2 front sight. That works well right out of the box and compliments the carry handle very nicely. Good luck with sighting in, it should not present any problems. As for the red dot, there are many styles with a wide price range. I have a Sightmark reflex that retails for around $50 and it works great. The squirrels found out how accurate it was this weekend. For my use, that sight fits my budget and needs.
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The carry handle (if you get a name-brand) is a very reliable rear sight! 50-yard shots all in the black are easy and commonplace. It will work just fine with the stock front sight, so there is no problem there.

I replaced my MOE flip-up sights with a carry handle and installed the A-2 front sight just because I like the looks. They work beautifully together! The tactical scope I put on top of my carry handle lets me have those l-o-n-g shots beyond those 50-yarders. So now, I have the choice of open sights or scope, whatever the shooting situation calls for!

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Made it out today and it went very well. I was worried over nothing. I sat the elevation dial on the rear sight all the way down and only had to tighten my front sight down 4 clicks. Made a minor adjustment to the windage, and I was putting up about quarter size groupings at 75 feet. It's a keeper!
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The rear elevation knob is for the range setting, not for adjusting elevation. All elevation adjustments should be accomplished with the front sight post only. The rear elevation knob should be set to 8/3, or 6/3 on an M4 handle.
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Set up a lot like my old, handled M4 Carbine:





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I addad a carry handle to mine and didnot find eny differince than the stock rear sight.
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The rear elevation knob is for the range setting, not for adjusting elevation. All elevation adjustments should be accomplished with the front sight post only. The rear elevation knob should be set to 8/3, or 6/3 on an M4 handle.
Yea, I read about that and that's why I set it all the way down to the 6/3 setting.
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I zeroed my M&P15 with the handle at 50 yards, just like the M4 and found it would not zero with the front sight in a useable position. Perhaps at 25 yards it'll work, but I ended up having to adjust the rear sight to bring the rounds up onto target. Would have been nice to use the IBSZ settings, but it didn't work on my rifle.

The range markings are useless on the M&P15-22. I prefer an "all the way down" rear sight battlesight zero, though, rather than counting clicks.

There are two handle heights because there are two front sight heights. F-marked front sight bases as used on the M4 Carbine are shorter than unmarked bases used on the M16 and many (most?) AR15s. Shorter F-front sight base requires a shorter rear sight base to properly zero. Or a shorter height handle. This is why some handles work and some don't.



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